Anonymous
Post 01/24/2019 15:39     Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
I thought this would be it. I thought the Senate would reopen the government, for whatever short or long period of time. I thought we'd be done with this stupid stupid shutdown.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2019 15:03     Subject: Re:How long will the shutdown last?
Fox News Poll: Voters see shutdown as bigger problem than border situation

Most voters consider the partial government shutdown a major problem or, even worse, an emergency, according to a new Fox News Poll.

After a 33-day stalemate over the funding for a U.S.-Mexico border wall, the poll also finds an uptick in support for President Trump’s most memorable campaign promise: 43 percent now favor the wall, up from 39 percent in September. Fifty-one percent oppose the wall (unchanged).


Will Fox News talking heads and entertainers discuss this for the Cult45 crowd?
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2019 14:45     Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Omg just vote to reopen without a wall! This is what the majority of Americans want.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2019 14:33     Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m so confused by all these government workers complaining that they’re about to go broke. How are they so destitute? Do they not have 6 months worth of cash savings- which any financial planner will tell you-? Or credit cards...? I just don’t get it.


FYI many of the IRS workers being brought back are paid 12 -15/hr. These are not six figure national office jobs. They’re asking people to open mail and do data entry and not be paid until some unknown future date. These are Gs2 to GS4. Other jobs like people manning the toll free lines are GS5-8. Again, not rich. How much credit do you think a person making $12/hr has? How much interest can they absorb? This is why so many called back by the IRS are utilizing the financial hardship clause of the union contract and asking to be put back on furlough until the shutdown is over.


That's a good point - to be fair, I - and many on DCUM - have an automatic picture of gov employees all being gs-13+ types working at DOJ, State, IC, Treasury, etc. The intellectually stimulating jobs at the top agencies.




Every agency has at least some low level employees. The mail room clerks are often intellectually disabled because of federal hiring programs for the disabled. So now, smart wealthy jerks are expecting low-level intellectually-disabled employees with only one job skill to have sound financial plans and extensive credit lines.


At the IRS, they have large numbers of non-disabled people working at low grades because they have such need for these positions. These opening are for the types of jobs that people are being called back to work at for no pay.

https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/510626900?PostingChannelID=RESTAPI
https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/510528500?PostingChannelID=RESTAPI
https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/508693200?PostingChannelID=RESTAPI
https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/506421700?PostingChannelID=RESTAPI

People working these types of jobs (and others) cannot withstand work without timely pay.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2019 14:28     Subject: Re:How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it will be over sometime next week. The pressure is building on all sides. Reports about the FBI and FAA and TSA are really bad becoming untenable. GOP will agree to open without wall money in exchange for a promise to bring a vote to the floor on it.


Agree, GOP will give in next week. Government will be opened first, then they can haggle about the wall until pigs fly.


Disagree.

I think that Trump is going to veto anything that comes his way and Turtle will go and blame the Democrats instead of overriding it.

Stocks will go down as FDA, DOD, PTO shutdown.

Dump the Trump will be heard on Wall Street and impeachment proceedings will begin. Then will the shutdown ends.

But I’m an optimist.


Trump will kick something off in Venezuela and puss Putin off and who knows what next. The man is beyond hope.

He will never piss Putin off, so we're safe for now. He'll need to find another country to pick on.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2019 14:26     Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m so confused by all these government workers complaining that they’re about to go broke. How are they so destitute? Do they not have 6 months worth of cash savings- which any financial planner will tell you-? Or credit cards...? I just don’t get it.


FYI many of the IRS workers being brought back are paid 12 -15/hr. These are not six figure national office jobs. They’re asking people to open mail and do data entry and not be paid until some unknown future date. These are Gs2 to GS4. Other jobs like people manning the toll free lines are GS5-8. Again, not rich. How much credit do you think a person making $12/hr has? How much interest can they absorb? This is why so many called back by the IRS are utilizing the financial hardship clause of the union contract and asking to be put back on furlough until the shutdown is over.


That's a good point - to be fair, I - and many on DCUM - have an automatic picture of gov employees all being gs-13+ types working at DOJ, State, IC, Treasury, etc. The intellectually stimulating jobs at the top agencies.




Every agency has at least some low level employees. The mail room clerks are often intellectually disabled because of federal hiring programs for the disabled. So now, smart wealthy jerks are expecting low-level intellectually-disabled employees with only one job skill to have sound financial plans and extensive credit lines.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2019 13:59     Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Piss obviously.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2019 13:59     Subject: Re:How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it will be over sometime next week. The pressure is building on all sides. Reports about the FBI and FAA and TSA are really bad becoming untenable. GOP will agree to open without wall money in exchange for a promise to bring a vote to the floor on it.


Agree, GOP will give in next week. Government will be opened first, then they can haggle about the wall until pigs fly.


Disagree.

I think that Trump is going to veto anything that comes his way and Turtle will go and blame the Democrats instead of overriding it.

Stocks will go down as FDA, DOD, PTO shutdown.

Dump the Trump will be heard on Wall Street and impeachment proceedings will begin. Then will the shutdown ends.

But I’m an optimist.


Trump will kick something off in Venezuela and puss Putin off and who knows what next. The man is beyond hope.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2019 13:54     Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Republican senators Gardner, Murkowski, and Collins would vote to reopen the government without border wall funding. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/426720-gop-senator-to-break-with-party-vote-to-reopen-government-without-border-wall?fbclid=IwAR0mm__kES1R2IkuACBeMSDM66OUMWdTWVuZn44zQtlo6TcMDK3MvlG3Sow
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2019 13:11     Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m so confused by all these government workers complaining that they’re about to go broke. How are they so destitute? Do they not have 6 months worth of cash savings- which any financial planner will tell you-? Or credit cards...? I just don’t get it.


FYI many of the IRS workers being brought back are paid 12 -15/hr. These are not six figure national office jobs. They’re asking people to open mail and do data entry and not be paid until some unknown future date. These are Gs2 to GS4. Other jobs like people manning the toll free lines are GS5-8. Again, not rich. How much credit do you think a person making $12/hr has? How much interest can they absorb? This is why so many called back by the IRS are utilizing the financial hardship clause of the union contract and asking to be put back on furlough until the shutdown is over.


That's a good point - to be fair, I - and many on DCUM - have an automatic picture of gov employees all being gs-13+ types working at DOJ, State, IC, Treasury, etc. The intellectually stimulating jobs at the top agencies.



Anonymous
Post 01/24/2019 12:48     Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:I’m so confused by all these government workers complaining that they’re about to go broke. How are they so destitute? Do they not have 6 months worth of cash savings- which any financial planner will tell you-? Or credit cards...? I just don’t get it.


FYI many of the IRS workers being brought back are paid 12 -15/hr. These are not six figure national office jobs. They’re asking people to open mail and do data entry and not be paid until some unknown future date. These are Gs2 to GS4. Other jobs like people manning the toll free lines are GS5-8. Again, not rich. How much credit do you think a person making $12/hr has? How much interest can they absorb? This is why so many called back by the IRS are utilizing the financial hardship clause of the union contract and asking to be put back on furlough until the shutdown is over.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2019 11:19     Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:I’m so confused by all these government workers complaining that they’re about to go broke. How are they so destitute? Do they not have 6 months worth of cash savings- which any financial planner will tell you-? Or credit cards...? I just don’t get it.


Hi. Hoping this is sarcasm, but in case it isn’t: 40% of American adults could not handle an unexpected $400 expense.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/22/fed-survey-40-percent-of-adults-cant-cover-400-emergency-expense.html
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2019 11:10     Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:I’m so confused by all these government workers complaining that they’re about to go broke. How are they so destitute? Do they not have 6 months worth of cash savings- which any financial planner will tell you-? Or credit cards...? I just don’t get it.


Peace be with you.

The 'othering' of americans helps you until you need understanding and guidance.
You can take your discomfort out on unpaid workers or the government. You choose the unpaid workers. Wrong choice.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2019 11:08     Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:I’m so confused by all these government workers complaining that they’re about to go broke. How are they so destitute? Do they not have 6 months worth of cash savings- which any financial planner will tell you-? Or credit cards...? I just don’t get it.
What is your HHI? The ones that are going to the food pantries are the ones at the bottom of the payscale. Some are contractors that are losing their income and will not get it back.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2019 11:04     Subject: How long will the shutdown last?
Anonymous wrote:I’m so confused by all these government workers complaining that they’re about to go broke. How are they so destitute? Do they not have 6 months worth of cash savings- which any financial planner will tell you-? Or credit cards...? I just don’t get it.


I don't get how you're an obtuse @sshole. Yeah, taking out debt and paying interest seems like a real fiscally prudent idea when there is a shutdown with no end in sight.

Any more sage advice?