Anonymous
11/07/2020 22:09
Subject: Re:VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:RantingSoccerDad wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strikers were in town this weekend and VYS seemed to hold their own on the boys side.
09s, 05s, and 04s won.
10s,06s, and 02/03s lost.
07s and 08s didn't play.
Not bad.
How did the girls side do?
10s, 08s, 06s, 04s, 02/03s won.
09s, 07s, 05s lost.
This finishes out the Fall Regional League season for most of the VYS top teams. The girls did quite well overall.
Seems, they do much better when compared to the boys' side. Why is that?
4-3 vs 3-3 is “much better? “ Is that the basis of the question, on the assumption that Richmond strikers are equal on both? More generally, not true in our experience. About equal, with older girls teams and younger boys teams a little better.
I think they mean generally.
Maybe comes down to coaching. VYS has separate coaching directors for the girls and boys.
I'd assume that creates a different approach.
Bingo.
Ridiculous and doubtful. It's not even clear the underlying premise is correct, and there are hundreds of more credible alternative explanations than differences in coaching within the same club. Their boys are generally better than their girls at younger ages. Is that attributable to coaching? You really believe that?
Have you ever seen the boys play compared to the girls at the older age groups?
The girls must be smarter since it isn’t coaching.
Sure. It couldn’t be that top vienna boys fo elsewhere more often than the girls, or top athletic boys don’t go to baseball, football, basketball or lacrosse (vs girls going to lacrosse). I guess since you cannot compete against anybody else, you are now competing against Vienna boys? How much dumber could this be? This is the kind of mentality that keeps us away from VYS I am sure this is a board member to whom I am responding, if not now, then in the future. Another nutty girls soccer parent or, even worse, VYS coaches. I have watched girls soccer - the women’s national team. Let’s just say it did not interest me in watching more of it at younger ages.
Huh?
Not sure what I just read.
Anonymous
11/07/2020 20:53
Subject: Re:VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:RantingSoccerDad wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strikers were in town this weekend and VYS seemed to hold their own on the boys side.
09s, 05s, and 04s won.
10s,06s, and 02/03s lost.
07s and 08s didn't play.
Not bad.
How did the girls side do?
10s, 08s, 06s, 04s, 02/03s won.
09s, 07s, 05s lost.
This finishes out the Fall Regional League season for most of the VYS top teams. The girls did quite well overall.
Seems, they do much better when compared to the boys' side. Why is that?
4-3 vs 3-3 is “much better? “ Is that the basis of the question, on the assumption that Richmond strikers are equal on both? More generally, not true in our experience. About equal, with older girls teams and younger boys teams a little better.
I think they mean generally.
Maybe comes down to coaching. VYS has separate coaching directors for the girls and boys.
I'd assume that creates a different approach.
Bingo.
Ridiculous and doubtful. It's not even clear the underlying premise is correct, and there are hundreds of more credible alternative explanations than differences in coaching within the same club. Their boys are generally better than their girls at younger ages. Is that attributable to coaching? You really believe that?
Have you ever seen the boys play compared to the girls at the older age groups?
The girls must be smarter since it isn’t coaching.
Sure. It couldn’t be that top vienna boys fo elsewhere more often than the girls, or top athletic boys don’t go to baseball, football, basketball or lacrosse (vs girls going to lacrosse). I guess since you cannot compete against anybody else, you are now competing against Vienna boys? How much dumber could this be? This is the kind of mentality that keeps us away from VYS I am sure this is a board member to whom I am responding, if not now, then in the future. Another nutty girls soccer parent or, even worse, VYS coaches. I have watched girls soccer - the women’s national team. Let’s just say it did not interest me in watching more of it at younger ages.
Anonymous
11/07/2020 19:08
Subject: Re:VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:RantingSoccerDad wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strikers were in town this weekend and VYS seemed to hold their own on the boys side.
09s, 05s, and 04s won.
10s,06s, and 02/03s lost.
07s and 08s didn't play.
Not bad.
How did the girls side do?
10s, 08s, 06s, 04s, 02/03s won.
09s, 07s, 05s lost.
This finishes out the Fall Regional League season for most of the VYS top teams. The girls did quite well overall.
Seems, they do much better when compared to the boys' side. Why is that?
4-3 vs 3-3 is “much better? “ Is that the basis of the question, on the assumption that Richmond strikers are equal on both? More generally, not true in our experience. About equal, with older girls teams and younger boys teams a little better.
I think they mean generally.
Maybe comes down to coaching. VYS has separate coaching directors for the girls and boys.
I'd assume that creates a different approach.
Bingo.
Ridiculous and doubtful. It's not even clear the underlying premise is correct, and there are hundreds of more credible alternative explanations than differences in coaching within the same club. Their boys are generally better than their girls at younger ages. Is that attributable to coaching? You really believe that?
Have you ever seen the boys play compared to the girls at the older age groups?
The girls must be smarter since it isn’t coaching.
Anonymous
11/07/2020 10:45
Subject: Re:VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:RantingSoccerDad wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strikers were in town this weekend and VYS seemed to hold their own on the boys side.
09s, 05s, and 04s won.
10s,06s, and 02/03s lost.
07s and 08s didn't play.
Not bad.
How did the girls side do?
10s, 08s, 06s, 04s, 02/03s won.
09s, 07s, 05s lost.
This finishes out the Fall Regional League season for most of the VYS top teams. The girls did quite well overall.
Seems, they do much better when compared to the boys' side. Why is that?
4-3 vs 3-3 is “much better? “ Is that the basis of the question, on the assumption that Richmond strikers are equal on both? More generally, not true in our experience. About equal, with older girls teams and younger boys teams a little better.
I think they mean generally.
Maybe comes down to coaching. VYS has separate coaching directors for the girls and boys.
I'd assume that creates a different approach.
Bingo.
Ridiculous and doubtful. It's not even clear the underlying premise is correct, and there are hundreds of more credible alternative explanations than differences in coaching within the same club. Their boys are generally better than their girls at younger ages. Is that attributable to coaching? You really believe that?
Anonymous
11/07/2020 10:35
Subject: Re:VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Anonymous wrote:RantingSoccerDad wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strikers were in town this weekend and VYS seemed to hold their own on the boys side.
09s, 05s, and 04s won.
10s,06s, and 02/03s lost.
07s and 08s didn't play.
Not bad.
How did the girls side do?
10s, 08s, 06s, 04s, 02/03s won.
09s, 07s, 05s lost.
This finishes out the Fall Regional League season for most of the VYS top teams. The girls did quite well overall.
Seems, they do much better when compared to the boys' side. Why is that?
4-3 vs 3-3 is “much better? “ Is that the basis of the question, on the assumption that Richmond strikers are equal on both? More generally, not true in our experience. About equal, with older girls teams and younger boys teams a little better.
I think they mean generally.
Maybe comes down to coaching. VYS has separate coaching directors for the girls and boys.
I'd assume that creates a different approach.
Bingo.
Anonymous
11/06/2020 22:53
Subject: VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Vienna is all about multi-sport family fun.
Anonymous
11/06/2020 11:57
Subject: VYS Soccer - better or worse?
girls have tons of attrition at your ages- lax will take the first large swath, but sports like volley ball (which really doesn't exist in a meaningful way until kids get older) and field hockey will take their share too eventually
Anonymous
11/06/2020 11:54
Subject: Re:VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:RantingSoccerDad wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strikers were in town this weekend and VYS seemed to hold their own on the boys side.
09s, 05s, and 04s won.
10s,06s, and 02/03s lost.
07s and 08s didn't play.
Not bad.
How did the girls side do?
10s, 08s, 06s, 04s, 02/03s won.
09s, 07s, 05s lost.
This finishes out the Fall Regional League season for most of the VYS top teams. The girls did quite well overall.
Seems, they do much better when compared to the boys' side. Why is that?
4-3 vs 3-3 is “much better? “ Is that the basis of the question, on the assumption that Richmond strikers are equal on both? More generally, not true in our experience. About equal, with older girls teams and younger boys teams a little better.
I think they mean generally.
Maybe comes down to coaching. VYS has separate coaching directors for the girls and boys.
I'd assume that creates a different approach.
I'd agree with this assumption. I've seen both sides play and the girls have a much better understanding of how to play the game.
Have not seen the girls play. Younger VYS top boys teams are one of the few teams in the area that tries to play out of the back and with shape. They are definitely coached well and some move on to other programs with demanding soccer expectations for lateral players. Hard to believe that would be confined to the boys teams at that age. I cannot speak to older ages. I know VYS boys suffer a lot of attrition to other sports and, among top players, to other very competitive programs. I can see the same being true on the girls side for other clubs, but not necessarily with other sports. So that may explain what one sees over time as well. Don't know.
Anonymous
11/06/2020 11:14
Subject: Re:VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Anonymous wrote:RantingSoccerDad wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strikers were in town this weekend and VYS seemed to hold their own on the boys side.
09s, 05s, and 04s won.
10s,06s, and 02/03s lost.
07s and 08s didn't play.
Not bad.
How did the girls side do?
10s, 08s, 06s, 04s, 02/03s won.
09s, 07s, 05s lost.
This finishes out the Fall Regional League season for most of the VYS top teams. The girls did quite well overall.
Seems, they do much better when compared to the boys' side. Why is that?
4-3 vs 3-3 is “much better? “ Is that the basis of the question, on the assumption that Richmond strikers are equal on both? More generally, not true in our experience. About equal, with older girls teams and younger boys teams a little better.
I think they mean generally.
Maybe comes down to coaching. VYS has separate coaching directors for the girls and boys.
I'd assume that creates a different approach.
I'd agree with this assumption. I've seen both sides play and the girls have a much better understanding of how to play the game.
Anonymous
11/05/2020 09:38
Subject: Re:VYS Soccer - better or worse?
RantingSoccerDad wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strikers were in town this weekend and VYS seemed to hold their own on the boys side.
09s, 05s, and 04s won.
10s,06s, and 02/03s lost.
07s and 08s didn't play.
Not bad.
How did the girls side do?
10s, 08s, 06s, 04s, 02/03s won.
09s, 07s, 05s lost.
This finishes out the Fall Regional League season for most of the VYS top teams. The girls did quite well overall.
Seems, they do much better when compared to the boys' side. Why is that?
4-3 vs 3-3 is “much better? “ Is that the basis of the question, on the assumption that Richmond strikers are equal on both? More generally, not true in our experience. About equal, with older girls teams and younger boys teams a little better.
I think they mean generally.
Maybe comes down to coaching. VYS has separate coaching directors for the girls and boys.
I'd assume that creates a different approach.
Anonymous
11/04/2020 15:39
Subject: Re:VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strikers were in town this weekend and VYS seemed to hold their own on the boys side.
09s, 05s, and 04s won.
10s,06s, and 02/03s lost.
07s and 08s didn't play.
Not bad.
How did the girls side do?
10s, 08s, 06s, 04s, 02/03s won.
09s, 07s, 05s lost.
This finishes out the Fall Regional League season for most of the VYS top teams. The girls did quite well overall.
Seems, they do much better when compared to the boys' side. Why is that?
4-3 vs 3-3 is “much better? “ Is that the basis of the question, on the assumption that Richmond strikers are equal on both? More generally, not true in our experience. About equal, with older girls teams and younger boys teams a little better.
Sorry. 5-3 vs 3-3. Perhaps check where they are in standings across both age groups. I think you see differences at clubs in any given year. Not really surprising.
Anonymous
11/04/2020 15:38
Subject: Re:VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strikers were in town this weekend and VYS seemed to hold their own on the boys side.
09s, 05s, and 04s won.
10s,06s, and 02/03s lost.
07s and 08s didn't play.
Not bad.
How did the girls side do?
10s, 08s, 06s, 04s, 02/03s won.
09s, 07s, 05s lost.
This finishes out the Fall Regional League season for most of the VYS top teams. The girls did quite well overall.
Seems, they do much better when compared to the boys' side. Why is that?
4-3 vs 3-3 is “much better? “ Is that the basis of the question, on the assumption that Richmond strikers are equal on both? More generally, not true in our experience. About equal, with older girls teams and younger boys teams a little better.
Anonymous
11/04/2020 15:34
Subject: Re:VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strikers were in town this weekend and VYS seemed to hold their own on the boys side.
09s, 05s, and 04s won.
10s,06s, and 02/03s lost.
07s and 08s didn't play.
Not bad.
How did the girls side do?
10s, 08s, 06s, 04s, 02/03s won.
09s, 07s, 05s lost.
This finishes out the Fall Regional League season for most of the VYS top teams. The girls did quite well overall.
Seems, they do much better when compared to the boys' side. Why is that?
Anonymous
11/04/2020 15:19
Subject: Re:VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strikers were in town this weekend and VYS seemed to hold their own on the boys side.
09s, 05s, and 04s won.
10s,06s, and 02/03s lost.
07s and 08s didn't play.
Not bad.
How did the girls side do?
10s, 08s, 06s, 04s, 02/03s won.
09s, 07s, 05s lost.
This finishes out the Fall Regional League season for most of the VYS top teams. The girls did quite well overall.
Anonymous
11/04/2020 14:14
Subject: Re:VYS Soccer - better or worse?
Anonymous wrote:Strikers were in town this weekend and VYS seemed to hold their own on the boys side.
09s, 05s, and 04s won.
10s,06s, and 02/03s lost.
07s and 08s didn't play.
Not bad.
How did the girls side do?