Anonymous
Post 05/21/2014 08:30     Subject: Why are people so upset about Common Core?

Anonymous wrote:Clearly they had a relationship. That's not what I'm referring to. Is there a test question that specifically refers to Romeo and Juliet's sexuality, or about some other aspect of the book?

When people start to behave like you people are above, it's because you clearly get the point, but have no intelligent retort.

My guess is you same people would be in an uproar if there was a book kids were reading where a character even suggested homosexuality wasn't something he/she believed in.

It's all about the agenda, not about rights and freedom.

I was thinking last night that I will be wholly amused when there's shock and surprise, when progressive policies win out. "They KEPT that teacher that sexually abused children? How could they DO that?". My response? It's what you voted for - you just weren't savvy enough to understand that.


So that's why the Catholic Church didn't get rid of the pedophile priests then? Because its so "progressive?" Really?! Do you even realize how ridiculous you sound?

Anonymous
Post 05/21/2014 07:32     Subject: Why are people so upset about Common Core?

Anonymous wrote:Clearly they had a relationship. That's not what I'm referring to. Is there a test question that specifically refers to Romeo and Juliet's sexuality, or about some other aspect of the book?

When people start to behave like you people are above, it's because you clearly get the point, but have no intelligent retort.

My guess is you same people would be in an uproar if there was a book kids were reading where a character even suggested homosexuality wasn't something he/she believed in.

It's all about the agenda, not about rights and freedom.

I was thinking last night that I will be wholly amused when there's shock and surprise, when progressive policies win out. "They KEPT that teacher that sexually abused children? How could they DO that?". My response? It's what you voted for - you just weren't savvy enough to understand that.


Is it really necessary for a test question to refer to Romeo and Juliet's sexuality? What would that test question be? "Do you think that the relationship between Romeo and Juliet was romantic? Why or why not?" "Do you think that Romeo and Juliet actually consummated their marriage before the opening of Act 3, Scene 5? Why or why not?" Any reasonable person's answer to these questions would be, "Yes, duh."

And no, I'm pretty sure that I did not vote for policies for not firing teachers who are child abusers. "Progressive" does not mean, "It's ok for anybody to do anything, yay!"

And really, homosexuality is not something you believe in or don't believe in, like Santa Claus or the tooth fairy. Gay people actually, really exist, for real. I personally have known many, many gay people in my life. You probably have too.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2014 07:06     Subject: Why are people so upset about Common Core?

Clearly they had a relationship. That's not what I'm referring to. Is there a test question that specifically refers to Romeo and Juliet's sexuality, or about some other aspect of the book?

When people start to behave like you people are above, it's because you clearly get the point, but have no intelligent retort.

My guess is you same people would be in an uproar if there was a book kids were reading where a character even suggested homosexuality wasn't something he/she believed in.

It's all about the agenda, not about rights and freedom.

I was thinking last night that I will be wholly amused when there's shock and surprise, when progressive policies win out. "They KEPT that teacher that sexually abused children? How could they DO that?". My response? It's what you voted for - you just weren't savvy enough to understand that.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2014 22:20     Subject: Why are people so upset about Common Core?

^^^lots of offensive flaunting of heterosexuality in Anna Karenina too, by the way.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2014 22:20     Subject: Why are people so upset about Common Core?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wait are you trying to tell me that Romeo and Juliet were "just friends?" Hot damn!


I'm saying that there is the actual story, and then there how the story is interpreted.


Yes there are some interpretations that they didn't even die, just taking a nap and didn't wakeup until after the story ends. Easier so that suicide doesn't need to be discussed in the classroom.


That's not an "interpretation". That's bowdlerization. What next? Anna Karenina didn't really throw herself under a train; it was all just a dream?
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2014 21:54     Subject: Why are people so upset about Common Core?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wait are you trying to tell me that Romeo and Juliet were "just friends?" Hot damn!


I'm saying that there is the actual story, and then there how the story is interpreted.


So there is an interpretation that they were just friends then? Weird
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2014 20:23     Subject: Why are people so upset about Common Core?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wait are you trying to tell me that Romeo and Juliet were "just friends?" Hot damn!


I'm saying that there is the actual story, and then there how the story is interpreted.


Yes there are some interpretations that they didn't even die, just taking a nap and didn't wakeup until after the story ends. Easier so that suicide doesn't need to be discussed in the classroom.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2014 19:29     Subject: Why are people so upset about Common Core?

Anonymous wrote:Wait are you trying to tell me that Romeo and Juliet were "just friends?" Hot damn!


I'm saying that there is the actual story, and then there how the story is interpreted.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2014 18:01     Subject: Why are people so upset about Common Core?

Wait are you trying to tell me that Romeo and Juliet were "just friends?" Hot damn!
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2014 12:06     Subject: Why are people so upset about Common Core?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unless Shakespeare comes back and tells you exactly how he meant his plays, it's all speculation


No, author intent is irrelevant. The text speaks for itself. The mere mention of a heterosexual relationship constitutes:

1. flaunting.
2. an obvious attempt to indoctrinate impressionable youth.


In literature, text is interpreted.

As for your second two points, the left is currently labeling books it considers indoctrination to impressionable youth. Do you support this, simply because you might agree with the way they feel?
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2014 10:53     Subject: Why are people so upset about Common Core?

Anonymous wrote:Unless Shakespeare comes back and tells you exactly how he meant his plays, it's all speculation


No, author intent is irrelevant. The text speaks for itself. The mere mention of a heterosexual relationship constitutes:

1. flaunting.
2. an obvious attempt to indoctrinate impressionable youth.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2014 10:48     Subject: Why are people so upset about Common Core?

Unless Shakespeare comes back and tells you exactly how he meant his plays, it's all speculation
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2014 10:29     Subject: Why are people so upset about Common Core?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I agree. We need to take Romeo and Juliet out of the curriculum -- Hamlet, too.


Depends on how they are taught.

We can only interpret what we think an author meant. It is opinion


Nope. Take the flagrant heterosexuality out of Romeo and Juliet, and Hamlet, and the plays vanish into thin air.


Heterosexuality in Romeo and Juliet is what leads to pursuit of underaged girls, murder and suicide.

Rah rah heterosexuality!
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2014 09:00     Subject: Why are people so upset about Common Core?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I agree. We need to take Romeo and Juliet out of the curriculum -- Hamlet, too.


Depends on how they are taught.

We can only interpret what we think an author meant. It is opinion


Nope. Take the flagrant heterosexuality out of Romeo and Juliet, and Hamlet, and the plays vanish into thin air.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2014 08:47     Subject: Why are people so upset about Common Core?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The real reason they hate common core because it will make your kids gay!

Seriously, you can't make this shit up!

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/florida-lawmaker-common-core-turn-kids-gay


Can you tell me why there should be anything about homosexuality integrated into the curriculum, other than during a unit on sexual education, which parents can opt out of?


Because heterosexuality is integrated into the curriculum.

In any case, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COMMON CORE STANDARDS.


It does have to do with how they are implemented.

Heterosexuality should not be integrated into the curriculum either.


I agree. We need to take Romeo and Juliet out of the curriculum -- Hamlet, too.
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Depends on how they are taught.

We can only interpret what we think an author meant. It is opinion