Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 12:11     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

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Anonymous wrote:Great job, trump is art of the deal. Libs can't handle it they want Chyna to win



US consumers ar now going to pay 30% more than what they paid in Janaury.
Trump got ZERO concessions from China.
Trump let China win.

Libs are upset because the US/Trump got played. What aren't you upset too?


Exactly, the deal is the deal. For all the bluster we're now at 30% higher prices.


It’s bad enough that Trump’s in charge but how do people not understand basic math? It’s 30% of the imported cost, not price! So if a company previously paid $5 for some plastic sh*t with no tariff and then charged customers $20, the new tariff will be $1.50 (ie 30% of $5) and the new price would be $21.50 (plus a further adjustment of sales tax) if they pass on the full tariff.


Right, it’s really not that much. And he’ll probably negotiate down to zero, china just needs to make more concessions such as buying more beef. We are on the right track with Trump at the helm.


Wrong. You’re cr*p at math too. It’s only not much on cheap rubbish as its import cost is low. And even then, it amounts to an 8% increase in price. On your iPhone, dishwasher, building products, pharmaceuticals or laptop, the % increase will be even higher.

So consider that anybody spending $50,000 a year on imported stuff (including imported foods), will pay a minimum of $4,000 more. If you are thinking this is about a bit more access for beef (what happened to moving factories and jobs to the US?!) then you’re dreaming.


So buy less stuff? And more American stuff? Sorry it’s really not that hard guys.


People, please for the love of all, read the news. The US does not have a supply chain that is 100% American. That’s because a US peach has netting and sprinkler systems that aren’t American, then you put them on trucks that aren’t fully American. Got it?!
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 12:07     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:So, the UK has agreed to a new more favorable trade framework. China is at the negotiating table. Drug prices will be lower. The last American hostage is being released by Hamas. There is now an American Pope. And we’re getting a free airplane.

Suck it, Libs!


Weird take.
But the right wing is not so sanguine about the UK “deal” and said it’s “s&itty”



“First, they told us the 10% tariff was just a baseline for negotiations to get to free trade deals,” he wrote on X, the Elon Musk-owned platform formerly known as Twitter.

“Now we’re being told the 10% tariff is for keeps. That’s just a tax on the American people,” he added.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/wing-pundit-torches-donald-trump-070312706.html
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 12:07     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great job, trump is art of the deal. Libs can't handle it they want Chyna to win



US consumers ar now going to pay 30% more than what they paid in Janaury.
Trump got ZERO concessions from China.
Trump let China win.

Libs are upset because the US/Trump got played. What aren't you upset too?


Exactly, the deal is the deal. For all the bluster we're now at 30% higher prices.


It’s bad enough that Trump’s in charge but how do people not understand basic math? It’s 30% of the imported cost, not price! So if a company previously paid $5 for some plastic sh*t with no tariff and then charged customers $20, the new tariff will be $1.50 (ie 30% of $5) and the new price would be $21.50 (plus a further adjustment of sales tax) if they pass on the full tariff.


That’s not Walmart’s business model — they have low margins, high volume, so consumers will feel it there.

I don’t shop there and never have.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 11:59     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

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Anonymous wrote:"for some unknown reason"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2025-05-12/bessent-says-china-tariff-pause-level-obviously-a-floor

Good grief.


He was surprised by the market response…has he never spoken to an economist in his life.

Also, FYI everyone, Bessent just said 30% is the floor. Prepared to get screwed even more by the felon in [checks calendar] 90 days.


No, this is the climb down. They are trying to back away from their dumb tariff policies without appearing like they caved.


China won't let them back away. Trump broke the seal and Xi will humiliate him.


You wish. China does not want a trade war, it’s why they offered concessions. This was all the plan.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 11:43     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"for some unknown reason"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2025-05-12/bessent-says-china-tariff-pause-level-obviously-a-floor

Good grief.


He was surprised by the market response…has he never spoken to an economist in his life.

Also, FYI everyone, Bessent just said 30% is the floor. Prepared to get screwed even more by the felon in [checks calendar] 90 days.


No, this is the climb down. They are trying to back away from their dumb tariff policies without appearing like they caved.


China won't let them back away. Trump broke the seal and Xi will humiliate him.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 11:12     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"for some unknown reason"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2025-05-12/bessent-says-china-tariff-pause-level-obviously-a-floor

Good grief.


He was surprised by the market response…has he never spoken to an economist in his life.

Also, FYI everyone, Bessent just said 30% is the floor. Prepared to get screwed even more by the felon in [checks calendar] 90 days.


No, this is the climb down. They are trying to back away from their dumb tariff policies without appearing like they caved.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 10:34     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"for some unknown reason"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2025-05-12/bessent-says-china-tariff-pause-level-obviously-a-floor

Good grief.


He was surprised by the market response…has he never spoken to an economist in his life.

Also, FYI everyone, Bessent just said 30% is the floor. Prepared to get screwed even more by the felon in [checks calendar] 90 days.


count on it, and short the market on a bounce like this, because when the "real" deal is announced, it will get ugly
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 10:33     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

“.. The Trump administration has blinked, big time,” wrote Greg Valliere, chief U.S. policy strategist at AGF ..

https://www.barrons.com/articles/china-trump-tariffs-trade-bfe18810
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 10:30     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

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Anonymous wrote:Great job, trump is art of the deal. Libs can't handle it they want Chyna to win



US consumers ar now going to pay 30% more than what they paid in Janaury.
Trump got ZERO concessions from China.
Trump let China win.

Libs are upset because the US/Trump got played. What aren't you upset too?


Exactly, the deal is the deal. For all the bluster we're now at 30% higher prices.


It’s bad enough that Trump’s in charge but how do people not understand basic math? It’s 30% of the imported cost, not price! So if a company previously paid $5 for some plastic sh*t with no tariff and then charged customers $20, the new tariff will be $1.50 (ie 30% of $5) and the new price would be $21.50 (plus a further adjustment of sales tax) if they pass on the full tariff.


Right, it’s really not that much. And he’ll probably negotiate down to zero, china just needs to make more concessions such as buying more beef. We are on the right track with Trump at the helm.


Wrong. You’re cr*p at math too. It’s only not much on cheap rubbish as its import cost is low. And even then, it amounts to an 8% increase in price. On your iPhone, dishwasher, building products, pharmaceuticals or laptop, the % increase will be even higher.

So consider that anybody spending $50,000 a year on imported stuff (including imported foods), will pay a minimum of $4,000 more. If you are thinking this is about a bit more access for beef (what happened to moving factories and jobs to the US?!) then you’re dreaming.


So buy less stuff? And more American stuff? Sorry it’s really not that hard guys.


1) You are not factoring the bulk purchases and heavy equipment and technical supplies purchased by US companies - and those prices are all passed on to the consumers.
2) the impetus from Trump for all of this was to re-shore manufacturing, something that had already started under Biden but has now dried up. So a total fail on that front.


You all are really impatient, give it a chance. Do you even have a business?


Still waiting to hear the value of the trade agreement with the UK! And I’m desperately hoping you don’t just say just the $700 million ethanol access (don’t even mention access for beef given hormone pumped beef does not even meet UK food health standards).
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 10:29     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:"for some unknown reason"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2025-05-12/bessent-says-china-tariff-pause-level-obviously-a-floor

Good grief.


He was surprised by the market response…has he never spoken to an economist in his life.

Also, FYI everyone, Bessent just said 30% is the floor. Prepared to get screwed even more by the felon in [checks calendar] 90 days.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 10:24     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Great job, trump is art of the deal. Libs can't handle it they want Chyna to win



US consumers ar now going to pay 30% more than what they paid in Janaury.
Trump got ZERO concessions from China.
Trump let China win.

Libs are upset because the US/Trump got played. What aren't you upset too?


Exactly, the deal is the deal. For all the bluster we're now at 30% higher prices.


It’s bad enough that Trump’s in charge but how do people not understand basic math? It’s 30% of the imported cost, not price! So if a company previously paid $5 for some plastic sh*t with no tariff and then charged customers $20, the new tariff will be $1.50 (ie 30% of $5) and the new price would be $21.50 (plus a further adjustment of sales tax) if they pass on the full tariff.


Right, it’s really not that much. And he’ll probably negotiate down to zero, china just needs to make more concessions such as buying more beef. We are on the right track with Trump at the helm.


Wrong. You’re cr*p at math too. It’s only not much on cheap rubbish as its import cost is low. And even then, it amounts to an 8% increase in price. On your iPhone, dishwasher, building products, pharmaceuticals or laptop, the % increase will be even higher.

So consider that anybody spending $50,000 a year on imported stuff (including imported foods), will pay a minimum of $4,000 more. If you are thinking this is about a bit more access for beef (what happened to moving factories and jobs to the US?!) then you’re dreaming.


So buy less stuff? And more American stuff? Sorry it’s really not that hard guys.


1) You are not factoring the bulk purchases and heavy equipment and technical supplies purchased by US companies - and those prices are all passed on to the consumers.
2) the impetus from Trump for all of this was to re-shore manufacturing, something that had already started under Biden but has now dried up. So a total fail on that front.


You all are really impatient, give it a chance. Do you even have a business?


Yes, I actually do and if you read anything about how negatively this is impacting small businesses, you wouldn't be so blase about it.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 10:23     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great job, trump is art of the deal. Libs can't handle it they want Chyna to win



US consumers ar now going to pay 30% more than what they paid in Janaury.
Trump got ZERO concessions from China.
Trump let China win.

Libs are upset because the US/Trump got played. What aren't you upset too?


Exactly, the deal is the deal. For all the bluster we're now at 30% higher prices.


It’s bad enough that Trump’s in charge but how do people not understand basic math? It’s 30% of the imported cost, not price! So if a company previously paid $5 for some plastic sh*t with no tariff and then charged customers $20, the new tariff will be $1.50 (ie 30% of $5) and the new price would be $21.50 (plus a further adjustment of sales tax) if they pass on the full tariff.


Right, it’s really not that much. And he’ll probably negotiate down to zero, china just needs to make more concessions such as buying more beef. We are on the right track with Trump at the helm.


You are ridiculous. I make about a $1m a year. I am buying nothing. The tariffs won't affect me, but I just have no desire. I cannot believe how stupid people are to believe that he would help this country economically. Soon regular people won't be able to afford things and my friends and I don't want to buy anything. That ain't good for the economy.


You’re making a million a year and are buying nothing? Okaaaay.

Are you guys just grumpy cause you missed the stock market bump?
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 10:12     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great job, trump is art of the deal. Libs can't handle it they want Chyna to win



US consumers ar now going to pay 30% more than what they paid in Janaury.
Trump got ZERO concessions from China.
Trump let China win.

Libs are upset because the US/Trump got played. What aren't you upset too?


Exactly, the deal is the deal. For all the bluster we're now at 30% higher prices.


It’s bad enough that Trump’s in charge but how do people not understand basic math? It’s 30% of the imported cost, not price! So if a company previously paid $5 for some plastic sh*t with no tariff and then charged customers $20, the new tariff will be $1.50 (ie 30% of $5) and the new price would be $21.50 (plus a further adjustment of sales tax) if they pass on the full tariff.


Right, it’s really not that much. And he’ll probably negotiate down to zero, china just needs to make more concessions such as buying more beef. We are on the right track with Trump at the helm.


Wrong. You’re cr*p at math too. It’s only not much on cheap rubbish as its import cost is low. And even then, it amounts to an 8% increase in price. On your iPhone, dishwasher, building products, pharmaceuticals or laptop, the % increase will be even higher.

So consider that anybody spending $50,000 a year on imported stuff (including imported foods), will pay a minimum of $4,000 more. If you are thinking this is about a bit more access for beef (what happened to moving factories and jobs to the US?!) then you’re dreaming.


So buy less stuff? And more American stuff? Sorry it’s really not that hard guys.


1) You are not factoring the bulk purchases and heavy equipment and technical supplies purchased by US companies - and those prices are all passed on to the consumers.
2) the impetus from Trump for all of this was to re-shore manufacturing, something that had already started under Biden but has now dried up. So a total fail on that front.


You all are really impatient, give it a chance. Do you even have a business?
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 10:11     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great job, trump is art of the deal. Libs can't handle it they want Chyna to win



US consumers ar now going to pay 30% more than what they paid in Janaury.
Trump got ZERO concessions from China.
Trump let China win.

Libs are upset because the US/Trump got played. What aren't you upset too?


Exactly, the deal is the deal. For all the bluster we're now at 30% higher prices.


It’s bad enough that Trump’s in charge but how do people not understand basic math? It’s 30% of the imported cost, not price! So if a company previously paid $5 for some plastic sh*t with no tariff and then charged customers $20, the new tariff will be $1.50 (ie 30% of $5) and the new price would be $21.50 (plus a further adjustment of sales tax) if they pass on the full tariff.


Right, it’s really not that much. And he’ll probably negotiate down to zero, china just needs to make more concessions such as buying more beef. We are on the right track with Trump at the helm.


You are ridiculous. I make about a $1m a year. I am buying nothing. The tariffs won't affect me, but I just have no desire. I cannot believe how stupid people are to believe that he would help this country economically. Soon regular people won't be able to afford things and my friends and I don't want to buy anything. That ain't good for the economy.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 10:10     Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great job, trump is art of the deal. Libs can't handle it they want Chyna to win



US consumers ar now going to pay 30% more than what they paid in Janaury.
Trump got ZERO concessions from China.
Trump let China win.

Libs are upset because the US/Trump got played. What aren't you upset too?


Exactly, the deal is the deal. For all the bluster we're now at 30% higher prices.


It’s bad enough that Trump’s in charge but how do people not understand basic math? It’s 30% of the imported cost, not price! So if a company previously paid $5 for some plastic sh*t with no tariff and then charged customers $20, the new tariff will be $1.50 (ie 30% of $5) and the new price would be $21.50 (plus a further adjustment of sales tax) if they pass on the full tariff.


Right, it’s really not that much. And he’ll probably negotiate down to zero, china just needs to make more concessions such as buying more beef. We are on the right track with Trump at the helm.


Wrong. You’re cr*p at math too. It’s only not much on cheap rubbish as its import cost is low. And even then, it amounts to an 8% increase in price. On your iPhone, dishwasher, building products, pharmaceuticals or laptop, the % increase will be even higher.

So consider that anybody spending $50,000 a year on imported stuff (including imported foods), will pay a minimum of $4,000 more. If you are thinking this is about a bit more access for beef (what happened to moving factories and jobs to the US?!) then you’re dreaming.


So buy less stuff? And more American stuff? Sorry it’s really not that hard guys.


1) You are not factoring the bulk purchases and heavy equipment and technical supplies purchased by US companies - and those prices are all passed on to the consumers.
2) the impetus from Trump for all of this was to re-shore manufacturing, something that had already started under Biden but has now dried up. So a total fail on that front.