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The people who are really invested in these places often are the people who didn’t go to Harvard or Yale or Princeton, so they don’t know the many, many people who graduate from those places who live perfectly average or below average lives. It was amazing to me when I matriculated my child at one how willing people were to do whatever the school said even if it was like getting rid of phonics —
only to say oops! bad idea — no one can read! a few years later. A bad admin can do a lot of damage really fast at any school.

These places are hit and miss, some elementary are better, some have excellent high schools but bad middles. They run the gamut. Some you can bribe for grades, some are very good about not letting money be a huge part of school life. Almost no one outside an incredibly small percentage of people whose children go there or who want their children go there knows the difference between these places. New York is a big, big place, and where you went to high school is a small, small matter. Where you went to elementary even less so.

They are not jealous of you for sending your kid there. Your kid is not better than theirs and it’s a bad idea to accept “just trust us” from any school, but you have to when there because the parents are so unwilling to advocate for their own kids’ education.

Thanks, Brearley parent, who still hasn’t said what kind of school is better for a city resident.

A lot of people know HYP isn’t a meal ticket. Having a substantial pre-college network is more important.

A lot of parents do what the schools say so they can get into college and not flame out like you, posting screeds dozens of times on here.

Anyone who matters know these schools and differentiates between them. No one cares what East New York or City Island residents think. My children are better than theirs, and they’d take the resources and time I give my children in a heartbeat.

Anonymous wrote:For an upper middle class kid, given the choice between “Bronx Science + parents bought me an apartment” versus “Horace Mann + having to pay rent,” I think I know what most 20somethings would prefer.

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The people who are really invested in these places often are the people who didn’t go to Harvard or Yale or Princeton, so they don’t know the many, many people who graduate from those places who live perfectly average or below average lives. It was amazing to me when I matriculated my child at one how willing people were to do whatever the school said even if it was like getting rid of phonics —
only to say oops! bad idea — no one can read! a few years later. A bad admin can do a lot of damage really fast at any school.

These places are hit and miss, some elementary are better, some have excellent high schools but bad middles. They run the gamut. Some you can bribe for grades, some are very good about not letting money be a huge part of school life. Almost no one outside an incredibly small percentage of people whose children go there or who want their children go there knows the difference between these places. New York is a big, big place, and where you went to high school is a small, small matter. Where you went to elementary even less so.

They are not jealous of you for sending your kid there. Your kid is not better than theirs and it’s a bad idea to accept “just trust us” from any school, but you have to when there because the parents are so unwilling to advocate for their own kids’ education.

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Anonymous wrote:A reason families who attend TTs don’t take posters’ criticisms seriously is because it’s schizophrenic. “Only rich kids are cool there.” “Rich kids are dweebs and never cool so they’re losers together.” “The academics are too easy compared to my average public school in NJ.” “The academics are a hot house environment, too much stress.” You people are ignorant and we avoid your type(s) as much as possible.

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If you’re even reading criticism by random trolls on an anonymous forum then the trolls have already won; having to address it and reassure yourself that it’s not valid means it’s accomplished 90% of what it intended to.

If you’re doing it to reassure other families considering TT schools that they’re actually worth it, understand that basically everybody outside of that system would prefer that we live in a society where going to a TT school doesn’t matter, and that the real headwind you face is that one.

Anonymous wrote:A reason families who attend TTs don’t take posters’ criticisms seriously is because it’s schizophrenic. “Only rich kids are cool there.” “Rich kids are dweebs and never cool so they’re losers together.” “The academics are too easy compared to my average public school in NJ.” “The academics are a hot house environment, too much stress.” You people are ignorant and we avoid your type(s) as much as possible.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, they do. We losers are all on this board. Dirty truth is that at least until high school the quality of education doesn’t matter that much for the truly smart kids.

If you can get your child into a TT and pony up the tuition for K-12, odds are you aren’t a “loser.”

Intelligence doesn’t equate to being a winner. Plenty are bankrupt with broken lives.

Yeah, it’s not like kids from *rich* families ever turn out to be losers, that’s certainly not a thing that happens.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, they do. We losers are all on this board. Dirty truth is that at least until high school the quality of education doesn’t matter that much for the truly smart kids.

If you can get your child into a TT and pony up the tuition for K-12, odds are you aren’t a “loser.”

Intelligence doesn’t equate to being a winner. Plenty are bankrupt with broken lives.

Anonymous wrote:Sure, they do. We losers are all on this board. Dirty truth is that at least until high school the quality of education doesn’t matter that much for the truly smart kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh yeah I forgot the 1/4 "how dare you besmirch the honor of SpongeBob Fussypants Country School"

On reflection I think these go in the same bucket as the precise school ranking people since it’s the same impulse. Basically:

1) I’m rich, yay for me
2) I’m not rich, yay for me
3) I have a weird parasocial relationship with a particular school
4) I just got here

Yes but being rich and from a Good Family is great

I’m actually surprised how little talk there is about Good Genes, considering the profile of the people posting here

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh yeah I forgot the 1/4 "how dare you besmirch the honor of SpongeBob Fussypants Country School"

On reflection I think these go in the same bucket as the precise school ranking people since it’s the same impulse. Basically:

1) I’m rich, yay for me
2) I’m not rich, yay for me
3) I have a weird parasocial relationship with a particular school
4) I just got here

Yes but being rich and from a Good Family is great