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A majority of American voters say that Russian President Vladimir Putin would not have invaded Ukraine had former President Trump still been in office, according to a new survey released on Friday.

A new Harvard Center for American Political Studies (CAPS)-Harris Poll survey released Friday found that 62 percent of those polled believed Putin would not be moving against Ukraine if Trump had been president. When looking strictly at the answers of Democrats and Republicans, 85 percent of Republicans and 38 percent of Democrats answered this way.

A majority of Americans polled — 59 percent — also said they believed that the Russian president moved on Ukraine because Putin saw weakness in President Biden, while 41 percent said that it was not a factor in Putin’s decision to invade Ukraine.

Americans are rather ignorant about this. Putin’s move on Ukraine wasn’t really about Ukraine, it was about trying to stop any expansion of NATO. NATO is Putin’s real target here because it is the biggest threat to Putin in the west. Putin didn’t need to worry about NATO while Trump was in power because his lapdog (Trump) was working to destabilize NATO internally). Now that Trump is out of power and NATO was strengthening again under Biden, Putin feels threatened.

Nice try. But, no.
This is all about Putin's desire to reconstitute the Soviet Union. He has stated this numerous times. Believe him.

Why wouldn’t they just surrender, it would
save lives and bloodshed. They are overpowered and outnumbered.

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A majority of American voters say that Russian President Vladimir Putin would not have invaded Ukraine had former President Trump still been in office, according to a new survey released on Friday.

A new Harvard Center for American Political Studies (CAPS)-Harris Poll survey released Friday found that 62 percent of those polled believed Putin would not be moving against Ukraine if Trump had been president. When looking strictly at the answers of Democrats and Republicans, 85 percent of Republicans and 38 percent of Democrats answered this way.

A majority of Americans polled — 59 percent — also said they believed that the Russian president moved on Ukraine because Putin saw weakness in President Biden, while 41 percent said that it was not a factor in Putin’s decision to invade Ukraine.

Americans are rather ignorant about this. Putin’s move on Ukraine wasn’t really about Ukraine, it was about trying to stop any expansion of NATO. NATO is Putin’s real target here because it is the biggest threat to Putin in the west. Putin didn’t need to worry about NATO while Trump was in power because his lapdog (Trump) was working to destabilize NATO internally). Now that Trump is out of power and NATO was strengthening again under Biden, Putin feels threatened.

A majority of American voters say that Russian President Vladimir Putin would not have invaded Ukraine had former President Trump still been in office, according to a new survey released on Friday.

A new Harvard Center for American Political Studies (CAPS)-Harris Poll survey released Friday found that 62 percent of those polled believed Putin would not be moving against Ukraine if Trump had been president. When looking strictly at the answers of Democrats and Republicans, 85 percent of Republicans and 38 percent of Democrats answered this way.

A majority of Americans polled — 59 percent — also said they believed that the Russian president moved on Ukraine because Putin saw weakness in President Biden, while 41 percent said that it was not a factor in Putin’s decision to invade Ukraine.

If this is all true, then it is hard to understand how the Putin regime makes ii to the middle of March.

Anonymous wrote:Good for Zelenskyy. He is a hero.

You mean no bone spurs and no hiding in a bunker or behind his SS? Can't be.

Good for Zelenskyy. He is a hero.

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Who cares? Dumb score settling during a war/crisis. Pathetic. Twitter sucks.

It’s just painful. All the familiar names, places I’ve driven through, familiar landmarks, and seeing people who have been so hopeful, seeing the incremental improvements, who’ve been through so much in their aspiration for independence, who fought for it for so long. 30 years of independence to get crushed again by russia. I am hopeful for a best outcome, but even a best outcome is one of death and destruction.

and russia, please don’t tell me about the bravery of 2000 out of 140 million who have expressed their anti war. The war has been going on since 2014. How many expressed anti war sentiment during those years? The soldiers, the army, the police are all russian and if they are protecting the regime, they must agree with it. This is not a situation where the power / army is held by a different nationality, race, religion, or ethnicity than those protesting. This is not Indians standing up to the British, or Algerians revolting against the French. Ultimately, the army, and the police have a choice to not shoot their own compatriots. They choose not to. They could choose civil disobedience. After 8 years, the bravery is too little, too late.

So, while bombs are falling on kindergartens in ukraine, it’s adding insult to injury to write about the brave russians because they dared walk in their streets. They had 8 years to express their anti war sentiment.

Ukraine is losing whether it “wins”, it’s just degrees of how much loss. 14,000 have already been killed since 2014 and over 1 million internally displaced persons, and now more deaths, more destruction, and more refugees. Many are those who already left their homes in 2014, and are now leaving their lives again.

This Thomas Friedman article has a lot of interesting points:

"This is the first war that will be covered on TikTok by super-empowered individuals armed only with smartphones, so acts of brutality will be documented and broadcast worldwide without any editors or filters. On the first day of the war, we saw invading Russian tank units unexpectedly being exposed by Google maps, because Google wanted to alert drivers that the Russian armor was causing traffic jams."

"“It’s been less than 24 hours since Russia invaded Ukraine, yet we already have more information about what’s going on there than we would have in a week during the Iraq war,” wrote Daniel Johnson, who served as an infantry officer and journalist with the U.S. Army in Iraq..."

"Anyone up for an anti-Putin truckers strike to prevent Russian goods going to and through Western Europe by way of Poland? Watch that space. Some super-empowered Polish citizens with a few roadblocks, pickups and smartphones could choke Russia’s whole economy in this wired world."

"First, China’s economy is more dependent on Ukraine than Russia’s. According to Reuters, “China leapfrogged Russia to become Ukraine’s biggest single trading partner in 2019, with overall trade totaling $18.98 billion last year, a nearly 80 percent jump from 2013. … China became the largest importer of Ukrainian barley in the 2020-21 marketing year,” and about 30 percent of all of China’s corn imports last year came from farms in Ukraine."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/opinion/putin-russia-ukraine.html

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Anonymous wrote:This is why so many of us view the UN as a joke.

What do you think the UN can do? The UN is an organization of member states, including Russia. It is not some one world government with it's own power. It doesn't have the xapability to do anything on its own.

And as a permanent member of the UNSC, Russia wields a veto. The question of the UN helping, outside of humanitarian aid when the conflict ends, is moot.

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Anonymous wrote:This is just ridiculous.......

Not really. It seems clear that there are people in the Russian government who don't like what Putin is doing - where do you think our great intelligence is coming from? So it's wise to keep the lines of communication open.

What great intelligence? Saying that Russia would attack? Even a blind man could see that.

We had their entire battle plan for the past couple of weeks and our intel folks communicated exactly how it was going to play out

Then why didn’t we do anything to stop it?

What do you think could’ve been done to stop Putin?

Would Mossad do some training on him? He's a huge antisemite.

Israel is not backing Ukraine. They're pulling an India so far.

It does have the world's best assassins.

Anonymous wrote:This is why so many of us view the UN as a joke.

What do you think the UN can do? The UN is an organization of member states, including Russia. It is not some one world government with it's own power. It doesn't have the xapability to do anything on its own.

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Anonymous wrote:This is just ridiculous.......

Not really. It seems clear that there are people in the Russian government who don't like what Putin is doing - where do you think our great intelligence is coming from? So it's wise to keep the lines of communication open.

What great intelligence? Saying that Russia would attack? Even a blind man could see that.

We had their entire battle plan for the past couple of weeks and our intel folks communicated exactly how it was going to play out

Then why didn’t we do anything to stop it?

What do you think could’ve been done to stop Putin?

Would Mossad do some training on him? He's a huge antisemite.

Israel is not backing Ukraine. They're pulling an India so far.