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Anonymous wrote:So, from this thread, we learn that women are all over the map on what they do and don't want in this regard. Generally speaking: don't be a dick, don't make things awkward, don't get mad if she expresses disinterest, and don't hit on everything that moves. Otherwise, if you're interested, take your chance, be alert for social cues, and know that you're going to take your lumps if the woman happens to be one who is very disinterested in ever being approached. And everyone: let's be careful out there!

Bad advice. It is smart to stick to an app. If the woman is on an app she is looking and will response back when or if she is in the mood/interested. If you are a guy worried about coming off creepy do not start anything in person even in an obvious pickup place. That is what apps are for. What one woman finds intriguing another will find creepy. It will largely depend on how attractive you are to her. Brady Pitt and Steve Buscemi can say and act the same but will get vastly different results. It is life.

Also remember most people are glued to their phones and do not want to interact IRL. If you approach someone who is really into to their phone in person they can get upset or uncomfortable.

Don’t listen to the PP. it is fine to approach a woman and talk. If you are respectful and polite, the worst that can happen is she blows you off or isn’t interested. Oh well. No one is calling the police on you because you said hello out loud to them.

The only thing one can get from this thread is if men approach women a good percentage of the women will feel harassed or annoyed. So you are encouraging men to harass women?


But let’s face it there will be men who do not care or refuse to believe they can harass any of women…like the one posting above.

If they feel "harassed" simply because someone approached them, and respectfully disengaged when she signaled disinterest, that's her problem that she needs help with.

Depends on how they are being "respectful." Like, online, you get these sea lions who think they're being "respectful" because they say "sir" when they demand to know why you won't argue with them. It's entirely possible to be a anti-social asshole while pretending to be respectful.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you smoking hot? Yes, women want you to approach.
No? Then stay away, creep!

Yes if you are charming and good looking, please step up and tell me I look nice today. Otherwise, get lost. Haha we can be so cruel.

This is the bottom line.

If you are hot (i.e. good face, nice teeth, and buff or athletic looking) and charming (socially adept and have a warm, comforting vibe, dont come off as a creep, good humor is a plus too) approach all day. If not, stick to The Bumblr or Tinder or whatever the hell people use these days to meet random strangers on the internet for their dating life, or just wait until you get introduced by friends or something. This is the way its always been - the best looking and most socially adept have their pick in life. Dont be mad about it just do whatever possible to improve yourself.

Those guys do not need to approach random women. They get hit on all day long. You people sleep on how many women actually approach the few desirable men. Add into that list a large income or prestigious job. Only desperate guys will approach women and those guys are hitting on every women they see. It’s just a numbers game to them.

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Anonymous wrote:So, from this thread, we learn that women are all over the map on what they do and don't want in this regard. Generally speaking: don't be a dick, don't make things awkward, don't get mad if she expresses disinterest, and don't hit on everything that moves. Otherwise, if you're interested, take your chance, be alert for social cues, and know that you're going to take your lumps if the woman happens to be one who is very disinterested in ever being approached. And everyone: let's be careful out there!

Bad advice. It is smart to stick to an app. If the woman is on an app she is looking and will response back when or if she is in the mood/interested. If you are a guy worried about coming off creepy do not start anything in person even in an obvious pickup place. That is what apps are for. What one woman finds intriguing another will find creepy. It will largely depend on how attractive you are to her. Brady Pitt and Steve Buscemi can say and act the same but will get vastly different results. It is life.

Also remember most people are glued to their phones and do not want to interact IRL. If you approach someone who is really into to their phone in person they can get upset or uncomfortable.

Don’t listen to the PP. it is fine to approach a woman and talk. If you are respectful and polite, the worst that can happen is she blows you off or isn’t interested. Oh well. No one is calling the police on you because you said hello out loud to them.

The only thing one can get from this thread is if men approach women a good percentage of the women will feel harassed or annoyed. So you are encouraging men to harass women?


But let’s face it there will be men who do not care or refuse to believe they can harass any of women…like the one posting above.

If they feel "harassed" simply because someone approached them, and respectfully disengaged when she signaled disinterest, that's her problem that she needs help with.

You aren't keeping up. In today's woke culture, anybody who is offended is a "victim" whom we all should rush to protect, and the offender should immediately be canceled without process or recourse.

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Anonymous wrote:So, from this thread, we learn that women are all over the map on what they do and don't want in this regard. Generally speaking: don't be a dick, don't make things awkward, don't get mad if she expresses disinterest, and don't hit on everything that moves. Otherwise, if you're interested, take your chance, be alert for social cues, and know that you're going to take your lumps if the woman happens to be one who is very disinterested in ever being approached. And everyone: let's be careful out there!

Bad advice. It is smart to stick to an app. If the woman is on an app she is looking and will response back when or if she is in the mood/interested. If you are a guy worried about coming off creepy do not start anything in person even in an obvious pickup place. That is what apps are for. What one woman finds intriguing another will find creepy. It will largely depend on how attractive you are to her. Brady Pitt and Steve Buscemi can say and act the same but will get vastly different results. It is life.

Also remember most people are glued to their phones and do not want to interact IRL. If you approach someone who is really into to their phone in person they can get upset or uncomfortable.

Don’t listen to the PP. it is fine to approach a woman and talk. If you are respectful and polite, the worst that can happen is she blows you off or isn’t interested. Oh well. No one is calling the police on you because you said hello out loud to them.

The only thing one can get from this thread is if men approach women a good percentage of the women will feel harassed or annoyed. So you are encouraging men to harass women?


But let’s face it there will be men who do not care or refuse to believe they can harass any of women…like the one posting above.

If they feel "harassed" simply because someone approached them, and respectfully disengaged when she signaled disinterest, that's her problem that she needs help with.

Anonymous wrote:so basically most women subscribe to this [hypocritical] system

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxuUkYiaUc8

Exactly this ^^^

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Anonymous wrote:While I'm clearly engrossed in a book or work?

Depends on where you are when you're reading or working, right? If you're sitting in a cafe reading a book or working, I think that's fair game. If you don't want to be bothered, you could easily do the same thing at home. Probably same goes for a park bench. But I'd be more cautious if you're reading on the subway or bus. Basically, even if you're doing something solitary, if you're voluntarily doing it in a place with a lot of people, I think you're saying you're open for socializing.

Wrong,pp! Are you saying we aren't allowed to read in a public place and not expect to be bothered? That is outrageous. Women are free to read a book in public and not be forced to stay at home.

You are the worst.

I think the pp meant that it would not be out of place or rude to approach someone in a public place. It also wouldn't be rude for you to say you don't want to talk, to get up and leave or be curt and decline any further interaction.

Women are certainly allowed to read in public, but as it is a public space they can't have the expectation of not being approached. Or at least that is not the norm in the US.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with someone striking up a conversation in an appropriate setting. But if I’m clearly busy, or you’re just giving me a compliment or asking for my number, it’s obnoxious.

Example: having a conversation while we’re at the dog park is fine. Chasing me down while I’m out walking my dog is not.

Basically, I want to know you’re interested because of who I am, not what I look like.

+1

If someone is just hitting on me right from the start, I make two assumptions. 1) He is only hitting on me because of something superficial 2) He probably hits on everyone who he thinks is decent looking which is a pretty big turn off for me

Why is this a turnoff? He may be "hitting on you" but that doesn't mean he wants to marry you, date you or even have sex with you. This just means he finds you physically attractive, and this is just one criteria for a romantic partner. He can probably also infer some things about you based on appearance--health, fitness, maybe socioeconomic status. Presumably he'd talk to you to see if he would want to interact further and possible date to see if he would like to take things further. If he had the opportunity to observe other characteristics he finds attractive, he might want to approach you based on that. In reality, there are few opportunities to interact with someone without physically seeing them.

What's wrong with wanting to learn more about a person based on the way they look?

I’ve never had a problem with anyone approaching me like a human at any time I don’t look particularly busy, including at the gym when I have headphones on as long as I’m clearly just resting between sets.

I don’t like when people act like I’m a piece of meat, make comments on any aspect of my body in an aesthetic way (unless it’s you look strong, which is always welcome!), stare, look up and down, or try to get my attention when I’m busy unless I have a safety issue going on.

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Anonymous wrote: pulling over in your car to say that to women walking down the street?

A drop dead gorgeous man pulled into a parking lot and I am so used to people asking me for directions, I pulled out my gps app on my phone and said "Are you lost? Do you need some directions?" He replied "Yeah, to wherever you are going..." "Oh I'm just going for a walk" and I walked off. Then about 10 minutes after leaving him to drive off I realized what I missed out on. Blonde muscular Mike in the black jeep in Pimmit, you are HAWT and I could have definitely hooked you up with my friends.

Maybe he planned to follow you and bury your torso in the woods.

so basically most women subscribe to this [hypocritical] system

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxuUkYiaUc8

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Anonymous wrote:Are you smoking hot? Yes, women want you to approach.
No? Then stay away, creep!

Yes if you are charming and good looking, please step up and tell me I look nice today. Otherwise, get lost. Haha we can be so cruel.

This is the bottom line.

If you are hot (i.e. good face, nice teeth, and buff or athletic looking) and charming (socially adept and have a warm, comforting vibe, dont come off as a creep, good humor is a plus too) approach all day. If not, stick to The Bumblr or Tinder or whatever the hell people use these days to meet random strangers on the internet for their dating life, or just wait until you get introduced by friends or something. This is the way its always been - the best looking and most socially adept have their pick in life. Dont be mad about it just do whatever possible to improve yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:As a man this thread is quite entertaining given how women complain how difficult it is to meet men exclusive of the apps. Yes, many situations are wrong and many men are creeps but the thread is basically stay away from me.

I’ve never complained that it’s difficult to meet men. None of my female friends have, either.

You can stop with the #notallmen BS. When you’ve had several encounters with creeps who couldn’t take no for an answer, followed you, touched you, etc, yea, you don’t want to be approached by men. You can’t tell the creeps from the non-creeps just by looking. Although I’ll say pretty much any guy who goes around asking out women in public he thinks are hot is a creep. Sort of like, if I chatted up every dude I saw loading his groceries into a Lambo, pretty obvious I’m a gold digger.

How about you say hi randomly to a man you find attractive. The good ones will know that isntheir cue to take the lead.

Sure. Problems are 1. I don’t find most men attractive enough to spend time on and 2. The ones I don’t smile at still think I’m interested.

I’m not smiling at random dudes in the grocery store because I have literally no idea who they are. They could be a stalker or addict or just a plain ol’ jerk. I don’t waste my time on men until I know them to a certain degree.

You sound like quite the gem

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Anonymous wrote:As a man this thread is quite entertaining given how women complain how difficult it is to meet men exclusive of the apps. Yes, many situations are wrong and many men are creeps but the thread is basically stay away from me.

I’ve never complained that it’s difficult to meet men. None of my female friends have, either.

You can stop with the #notallmen BS. When you’ve had several encounters with creeps who couldn’t take no for an answer, followed you, touched you, etc, yea, you don’t want to be approached by men. You can’t tell the creeps from the non-creeps just by looking. Although I’ll say pretty much any guy who goes around asking out women in public he thinks are hot is a creep. Sort of like, if I chatted up every dude I saw loading his groceries into a Lambo, pretty obvious I’m a gold digger.

How about you say hi randomly to a man you find attractive. The good ones will know that isntheir cue to take the lead.

Sure. Problems are 1. I don’t find most men attractive enough to spend time on and 2. The ones I don’t smile at still think I’m interested.

I’m not smiling at random dudes in the grocery store because I have literally no idea who they are. They could be a stalker or addict or just a plain ol’ jerk. I don’t waste my time on men until I know them to a certain degree.

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delivering these lines.

Do not use lines! I meant offering to help or seeing a common interest is game for conversation. Yes, I have been offered assistance at Whole Foods by hotties saying "Hi", who wanted to take me out. Yes, I have gotten dates/flowers/"home improvement" at home depot by guys who were good at repair and installation. Yes, I have been told at banks that "I'm not gonna' get anywhere not talking to women" and gotten asked outside atms. Yikes, sorry I wrote it in a exact line kind of way. But I still say all of these situations have a non-catcall opportunity and when approached, I had no problem. The poster thought bookstores were okay, but groceries were not. But you can meet people everywhere including grocery tastings, or store grand opening parties, etc. Not just bookstores. That was the point. Sorry, and yes do not use these as lines, but as examples of how commonalities are formed.

Anonymous wrote:Are you smoking hot? Yes, women want you to approach.
No? Then stay away, creep!

Yes if you are charming and good looking, please step up and tell me I look nice today. Otherwise, get lost. Haha we can be so cruel.