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Anonymous wrote:I mean somehow we are now supposed to catch kids up from 2 back to back disrupted school years, maybe teach concurrently for kids staying home sick, oh and police mask adherence student by student by cross referencing vax status against SIS. Come on.

Yup. Give it a rest people. Concurrent is isn’t happening. Every k-6 teacher I know, but especially k-3 do not even want to use the computer at all. Me included. We are getting back to the basics.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean somehow we are now supposed to catch kids up from 2 back to back disrupted school years, maybe teach concurrently for kids staying home sick, oh and police mask adherence student by student by cross referencing vax status against SIS. Come on.

Yup. Give it a rest people. Concurrent is isn’t happening. Every k-6 teacher I know, but especially k-3 do not even want to use the computer at all. Me included. We are getting back to the basics.

Yes! I full support zero laptop use in k-6. They have had enough of it.

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Anonymous wrote:If students are constantly having to quarantine for 10 days, how are they going to make up work and lessons? They won’t be able to watch virtually anymore. This is going to be tough.

Teacher here. My biggest concern with this is we will be expected to just open a google meet for them to attend class from home. “Informal” concurrent if you will. And my other fear regarding that is if we have to do it, kids will start treating attendance as optional and just say “hey I’m home open a google meet” and it’s no holds barred. Schools HAVE to develop a plan for this and stick to it because I am not having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids . I refuse.

Do you have a plan in mind? "Having a google meet open daily for 2-3 absent kids" sounded exactly like the type of flexibility necessary right now, to keep students engaged and safe.

Different teacher here. I, too, will refuse to do informal concurrent. If you want to keep your kids home, go ahead, but don’t expect special “online” accommodations. Consider doing Virtual VA if you are worried.

I wasn't aware parents could decide they don't want their kid home if told they need to quarantine. Do you prefer they just give up on quarantining your students?

Personally I'm fine with it not being the 1st day any student is out because that is too disruptive, but if a student needs to be out for several days quarantining it seems like something could be set up. Although this is probably a bigger problem for the grades where students can be vaccinated, so I'm fine if "no need to quarantine" is the carrot and "we're not helping you easily catch up" the stick to get these kids vaccinated.

I’ve only skimmed, but has someone said they won’t help the student catch up? I only see people saying they don’t want to do concurrent instruction.

Concurrent for a high school student who has to be out for over a week quarantining is going to be a lot easier for them to catch up with classes than posting the assignments and expecting them to teach themselves or come back after 10 days and catch up then. Unless things have changed wince I was in school. Coming back after even a few days off was hard to do and people missing more than 1 week was rare.

Allowing kids who need to be quarantined to listen in to the class concurrently will go a long way in helping them stay up to speed.

Elementary is a lot harder to do that with and they can't be vaccinated yet, so that probably will be more left to catching students up. Thankfully they cover things at a slower pace and there is more fluff that can be skipped to catch a kid up, at least for the younger grades where letting a kid watch online takes more effort to support them and lecture style lessons aren't as common.

Anonymous wrote:I mean somehow we are now supposed to catch kids up from 2 back to back disrupted school years, maybe teach concurrently for kids staying home sick, oh and police mask adherence student by student by cross referencing vax status against SIS. Come on.

Yup. Give it a rest people. Concurrent is isn’t happening. Every k-6 teacher I know, but especially k-3 do not even want to use the computer at all. Me included. We are getting back to the basics.

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Anonymous wrote:In fact I do want them to give up quarantining if the kids were masked. It’s disruptive.

I think it’s annoying that they haven’t said what they plan to do yet.

I expect they can foresee how self-evident the need for concurrent availability is going to be in 4 weeks' time and they just don't need to deal with the crazy denialism du jour.

The teachers’ organizations and principal groups were very much against concurrent instruction. I don’t expect that will wane if it looks like it’s coming back.

Uh-huh, yeah, sure, then, they'll probably get what they think is best, absolutely, uh-huh.

Isn't it the DCUM consensus that the teacher groups have a lot of clout with the current SB?

Concurrent instruction is not going to be decided by who wins the political power struggle. This will have very little to do with clout, and everything to do with the public health situation. It looks like by the time school starts, the situation might be bad enough to require flexibility with concurrent instruction.

I’m doubtful. We’re still in pretty good shape and I predict it will level off before it gets to that point in our area. Kids back in school and a reduction of summer travel will help.

You’re engaging in some real wishful thinking if you don’t think cases will rise more than they are now during the usual respiratory virus season of fall & winter.

Maybe. Let’s see what happens throughout September and October. Cases might rise, but even then the situation isn’t going to become “that bad”.

It’s never “that bad” until it’s you or your family. Then all the sudden it’s bad.

childless parents, parents who sent their own children to in-person privates and parents of grown children school boards (and other elected officials) certainly felt that way about keeping schools shut down for OTHER people's children.

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Anonymous wrote:In fact I do want them to give up quarantining if the kids were masked. It’s disruptive.

I think it’s annoying that they haven’t said what they plan to do yet.

I expect they can foresee how self-evident the need for concurrent availability is going to be in 4 weeks' time and they just don't need to deal with the crazy denialism du jour.

The teachers’ organizations and principal groups were very much against concurrent instruction. I don’t expect that will wane if it looks like it’s coming back.

Uh-huh, yeah, sure, then, they'll probably get what they think is best, absolutely, uh-huh.

Isn't it the DCUM consensus that the teacher groups have a lot of clout with the current SB?

Concurrent instruction is not going to be decided by who wins the political power struggle. This will have very little to do with clout, and everything to do with the public health situation. It looks like by the time school starts, the situation might be bad enough to require flexibility with concurrent instruction.

I’m doubtful. We’re still in pretty good shape and I predict it will level off before it gets to that point in our area. Kids back in school and a reduction of summer travel will help.

You’re engaging in some real wishful thinking if you don’t think cases will rise more than they are now during the usual respiratory virus season of fall & winter.

Maybe. Let’s see what happens throughout September and October. Cases might rise, but even then the situation isn’t going to become “that bad”.

It’s never “that bad” until it’s you or your family. Then all the sudden it’s bad.

So what do you propose? Masks, distancing and perhaps no in person school until Covid is non-existent and nobody is coming down with it? It’s not going away.

As soon as the vaccines are approved (including a future pediatric vaccine), they should be required for students.

That still won’t ensure that they won’t catch the virus and get sick. It’s not going to eliminate the virus. What happens then when it’s your family that experienced a breakthrough case and possibly passes it on to someone unable to vaccinate or who is otherwise compromised? It could happen. That would suck if it were your family.

There is no perfect solution. Required vaccinations will be as closest to a solution as we'll be able to get. Those immunocompromised families will have to take the risk or attend virtual or homeschool. We cannot wear masks for the remainder of our lives.

I homeschooled my daughter when she could not attend school because of a medical issue, pre-COVID. For families that have special needs, this is not unheard of for them.

Yeah. I was just playing devil’s advocate. 😈

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Anonymous wrote:In fact I do want them to give up quarantining if the kids were masked. It’s disruptive.

I think it’s annoying that they haven’t said what they plan to do yet.

I expect they can foresee how self-evident the need for concurrent availability is going to be in 4 weeks' time and they just don't need to deal with the crazy denialism du jour.

The teachers’ organizations and principal groups were very much against concurrent instruction. I don’t expect that will wane if it looks like it’s coming back.

Uh-huh, yeah, sure, then, they'll probably get what they think is best, absolutely, uh-huh.

Isn't it the DCUM consensus that the teacher groups have a lot of clout with the current SB?

Concurrent instruction is not going to be decided by who wins the political power struggle. This will have very little to do with clout, and everything to do with the public health situation. It looks like by the time school starts, the situation might be bad enough to require flexibility with concurrent instruction.

I’m doubtful. We’re still in pretty good shape and I predict it will level off before it gets to that point in our area. Kids back in school and a reduction of summer travel will help.

You’re engaging in some real wishful thinking if you don’t think cases will rise more than they are now during the usual respiratory virus season of fall & winter.

Maybe. Let’s see what happens throughout September and October. Cases might rise, but even then the situation isn’t going to become “that bad”.

It’s never “that bad” until it’s you or your family. Then all the sudden it’s bad.

So what do you propose? Masks, distancing and perhaps no in person school until Covid is non-existent and nobody is coming down with it? It’s not going away.

Well I won’t be asking what Brian Boitano would do.

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Anonymous wrote:In fact I do want them to give up quarantining if the kids were masked. It’s disruptive.

I think it’s annoying that they haven’t said what they plan to do yet.

I expect they can foresee how self-evident the need for concurrent availability is going to be in 4 weeks' time and they just don't need to deal with the crazy denialism du jour.

The teachers’ organizations and principal groups were very much against concurrent instruction. I don’t expect that will wane if it looks like it’s coming back.

Uh-huh, yeah, sure, then, they'll probably get what they think is best, absolutely, uh-huh.

Isn't it the DCUM consensus that the teacher groups have a lot of clout with the current SB?

Concurrent instruction is not going to be decided by who wins the political power struggle. This will have very little to do with clout, and everything to do with the public health situation. It looks like by the time school starts, the situation might be bad enough to require flexibility with concurrent instruction.

I’m doubtful. We’re still in pretty good shape and I predict it will level off before it gets to that point in our area. Kids back in school and a reduction of summer travel will help.

You’re engaging in some real wishful thinking if you don’t think cases will rise more than they are now during the usual respiratory virus season of fall & winter.

Maybe. Let’s see what happens throughout September and October. Cases might rise, but even then the situation isn’t going to become “that bad”.

It’s never “that bad” until it’s you or your family. Then all the sudden it’s bad.

So what do you propose? Masks, distancing and perhaps no in person school until Covid is non-existent and nobody is coming down with it? It’s not going away.

As soon as the vaccines are approved (including a future pediatric vaccine), they should be required for students.

That still won’t ensure that they won’t catch the virus and get sick. It’s not going to eliminate the virus. What happens then when it’s your family that experienced a breakthrough case and possibly passes it on to someone unable to vaccinate or who is otherwise compromised? It could happen. That would suck if it were your family.

There is no perfect solution. Required vaccinations will be as closest to a solution as we'll be able to get. Those immunocompromised families will have to take the risk or attend virtual or homeschool. We cannot wear masks for the remainder of our lives.

I homeschooled my daughter when she could not attend school because of a medical issue, pre-COVID. For families that have special needs, this is not unheard of for them.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it is time to ask ourselves, “What would Brian Boitano do?”

Brian Boitano?
I don’t get it. 🤔

It's a reference from South Park.

What would Brian Boitano do?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=sNJmfuEWR8w&feature=share

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Anonymous wrote:I think it is time to ask ourselves, “What would Brian Boitano do?”

Brian Boitano?
I don’t get it. 🤔

South Park

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Anonymous wrote:In fact I do want them to give up quarantining if the kids were masked. It’s disruptive.

I think it’s annoying that they haven’t said what they plan to do yet.

I expect they can foresee how self-evident the need for concurrent availability is going to be in 4 weeks' time and they just don't need to deal with the crazy denialism du jour.

The teachers’ organizations and principal groups were very much against concurrent instruction. I don’t expect that will wane if it looks like it’s coming back.

Uh-huh, yeah, sure, then, they'll probably get what they think is best, absolutely, uh-huh.

Isn't it the DCUM consensus that the teacher groups have a lot of clout with the current SB?

Concurrent instruction is not going to be decided by who wins the political power struggle. This will have very little to do with clout, and everything to do with the public health situation. It looks like by the time school starts, the situation might be bad enough to require flexibility with concurrent instruction.

I’m doubtful. We’re still in pretty good shape and I predict it will level off before it gets to that point in our area. Kids back in school and a reduction of summer travel will help.

You’re engaging in some real wishful thinking if you don’t think cases will rise more than they are now during the usual respiratory virus season of fall & winter.

Maybe. Let’s see what happens throughout September and October. Cases might rise, but even then the situation isn’t going to become “that bad”.

It’s never “that bad” until it’s you or your family. Then all the sudden it’s bad.

So what do you propose? Masks, distancing and perhaps no in person school until Covid is non-existent and nobody is coming down with it? It’s not going away.

As soon as the vaccines are approved (including a future pediatric vaccine), they should be required for students.

That still won’t ensure that they won’t catch the virus and get sick. It’s not going to eliminate the virus. What happens then when it’s your family that experienced a breakthrough case and possibly passes it on to someone unable to vaccinate or who is otherwise compromised? It could happen. That would suck if it were your family.

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Anonymous wrote:In fact I do want them to give up quarantining if the kids were masked. It’s disruptive.

I think it’s annoying that they haven’t said what they plan to do yet.

I expect they can foresee how self-evident the need for concurrent availability is going to be in 4 weeks' time and they just don't need to deal with the crazy denialism du jour.

The teachers’ organizations and principal groups were very much against concurrent instruction. I don’t expect that will wane if it looks like it’s coming back.

Uh-huh, yeah, sure, then, they'll probably get what they think is best, absolutely, uh-huh.

Isn't it the DCUM consensus that the teacher groups have a lot of clout with the current SB?

Concurrent instruction is not going to be decided by who wins the political power struggle. This will have very little to do with clout, and everything to do with the public health situation. It looks like by the time school starts, the situation might be bad enough to require flexibility with concurrent instruction.

I’m doubtful. We’re still in pretty good shape and I predict it will level off before it gets to that point in our area. Kids back in school and a reduction of summer travel will help.

You’re engaging in some real wishful thinking if you don’t think cases will rise more than they are now during the usual respiratory virus season of fall & winter.

Maybe. Let’s see what happens throughout September and October. Cases might rise, but even then the situation isn’t going to become “that bad”.

It’s never “that bad” until it’s you or your family. Then all the sudden it’s bad.

So what do you propose? Masks, distancing and perhaps no in person school until Covid is non-existent and nobody is coming down with it? It’s not going away.

As soon as the vaccines are approved (including a future pediatric vaccine), they should be required for students.

Anonymous wrote:I think it is time to ask ourselves, “What would Brian Boitano do?”

I think this board would say "What would Tanya Harding do?"

Anonymous wrote:I think it is time to ask ourselves, “What would Brian Boitano do?”

Brian Boitano?
I don’t get it. 🤔