Anonymous
Post 07/24/2021 08:36     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if our streets and communities weren't flooded with guns. There is blood on the hands of every republican in this country.


The Republicans have to move on the gun debate. But at the end of the day, the most important factor by far in explaining disparities in all manner of life outcomes (poverty, unemployment, crime, education) is whether you were born out-of-wedlock. And we all know the statistics are not pretty. Until the Democrats are willing to have a conversation about this, the gunfire will continue.


Democrats are already pro-choice and in favor of policies that increase education, jobs, and alleviate poverty. So, what's your point? That they should be in favor of forced-marriage and polygamy?

I'm sincerely not following exactly what you think Democrats haven't done on these issues.


They should be in favor of policies that encourage stable families. Instead, Democrats have hitched their wagons to a BLM movement that is very publicly “committed to disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure.” Fairly soon 90% of AA babies will be born out of wedlock. This is an existential crisis for our country. Available guns + no fathers = 16th & R. Wake up people.


Maybe if our government hadn't flooded black communities with crack and criminalized black men, their families wouldn't have been disrupted and the ripple effect that we are seeing would not be happening.

Not to mention white violence--what are you proposing to do about that? Are no white fathers absent?



PP seems to be talking about fatherless families in general.
It doesn't matter what color you are - if you live in a home without a father figure, your chances for a successful life drop.
And, as far as flooding communities with crack........

Now, we have fentanyl coming across the border to worry about. It is only getting worse.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2021 08:30     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if our streets and communities weren't flooded with guns. There is blood on the hands of every republican in this country.


The Republicans have to move on the gun debate. But at the end of the day, the most important factor by far in explaining disparities in all manner of life outcomes (poverty, unemployment, crime, education) is whether you were born out-of-wedlock. And we all know the statistics are not pretty. Until the Democrats are willing to have a conversation about this, the gunfire will continue.


Democrats are already pro-choice and in favor of policies that increase education, jobs, and alleviate poverty. So, what's your point? That they should be in favor of forced-marriage and polygamy?

I'm sincerely not following exactly what you think Democrats haven't done on these issues.


They should be in favor of policies that encourage stable families. Instead, Democrats have hitched their wagons to a BLM movement that is very publicly “committed to disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure.” Fairly soon 90% of AA babies will be born out of wedlock. This is an existential crisis for our country. Available guns + no fathers = 16th & R. Wake up people.


Maybe if our government hadn't flooded black communities with crack and criminalized black men, their families wouldn't have been disrupted and the ripple effect that we are seeing would not be happening.

Not to mention white violence--what are you proposing to do about that? Are no white fathers absent?

Anonymous
Post 07/24/2021 05:11     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Am I alone in wanting?
1) tough sentences for violent crimes - including automatic 10yr add-on for any crime where a gun was used.
2) social safety net so kids aren't hungry, homeless or hopeless (ie: educational and employment opportunity)
3) serious plan to massively reduce personal gun ownership for all but licensed and psychologically evaluated professionals with a demonstrated need. Ban on all new personal gun sales and a massive gun violence victims tax (10,000%?) on non-LEO/Military ammunition sales together with a gun buy-back program with target of >100k guns a day. National registry/license and insurance requirement for those who continue to own, plus references from 6 non-relative neighbors who agree to take criminal responsibility for your actions. 2A can itself be amended given modern reality. With political will could dramatically bend the curve on gun violence over next 5-10 years - it's personal and public responsibility that could pass on a more mature and safer country for the next generation. We still have adults not vaccinated yet though so...
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2021 04:09     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly- the gentrify crowd did this. You can’t just toss up row houses and close your eyes to the actual needs of the neighborhood. The problems of systematic/generational racism aren’t going to vanish simply because you bought an over priced home.
I see strong parallels between gentrifiers and climate change deniers. You think that you can muscle through any ill effects of your actions. Turns out- you are both wrong.
So keep pricing people out of the city… and see how that plays out for you.


It’s not so much the gentrification. It’s the fact that the gentrifiers mostly refuse to send their kids to the neighborhood schools which would have the biggest impact on improving AA test scores, outcomes, etc. Instead they flee for charters or privates and walk by the BLM signs on their stoops every day. They are guilty of the worst form of systematic racism, but they are totally clueless about it.


So parents who care about education should sacrifice their children? Do you realize the non-gentrified can go to charters as well?


We sent our kids to a neighborhood school for 7 consecutive years. It never opened during the pandemic. It failed all kids, especially homeless and vulnerable kids but also ours. We’re leaving that school for another dcps via the lottery. We have lived here in crime central fir 15 years but will likely move to upper nw. I really dont care what others think. Weve loved our neighborhood and done our part to make it better, but wont risk our lives.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2021 01:18     Subject: Re:Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

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There are tons, tons, of programs. Can Muriel herself and the city council require that parents give a fk about their kids and are ensuring they actually go to class? Schools are open. Even before the pandemic truancy was a major issue. Stop laying the blame on external forces. Maybe people should a) move to somewhere affordable. 2) if they choose to stay and accept subsidized housing that they stop shooting people or if they have kids, that they ensure their kids go to class and are not out on the streets.


This x1,000,000
The culture of NO personal accountability leads to the perpetuation of multi-generational poverty every single bit as much as systemic racism. Both can be true at the same time. But DC politicians are only willing to talk about the latter and not the former.


+1.

When is Muriel going to speak the entire truth: As long as young black men are being raised in fatherless homes, with 15 - 18 year old uneducated mothers who may have multiple children with other men, and in homes in which substance abuse is rampant, these kids don't have a chance. Their lives are not valued except as a source of increased government benefits. No "programs" are going to fix that. The fact that they have such easy access to guns is a failure on society, I agree, but without value of life and education in the heart of the community, guns are only part of the problem.


Agree with this PP ^^^
This is never addressed. Why not?


Because it requires "judging" another "culture" and other people's sets of values. Well, guess what. Some values are right and some are wrong. Exhibit A on Display.


Yes, how dare you impose your white middle class values. And of course all middle class values are white. (/s)!! (Tell that to all the majority single-race or single-ethnic countries around the world that don’t have to deal with race getting confused in discussions about poor choices and values. It is the ultimate example of racism to excuse an entire race for such issues.)
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2021 01:07     Subject: Re:Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

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There are tons, tons, of programs. Can Muriel herself and the city council require that parents give a fk about their kids and are ensuring they actually go to class? Schools are open. Even before the pandemic truancy was a major issue. Stop laying the blame on external forces. Maybe people should a) move to somewhere affordable. 2) if they choose to stay and accept subsidized housing that they stop shooting people or if they have kids, that they ensure their kids go to class and are not out on the streets.


This x1,000,000
The culture of NO personal accountability leads to the perpetuation of multi-generational poverty every single bit as much as systemic racism. Both can be true at the same time. But DC politicians are only willing to talk about the latter and not the former.


Yeah I wanna subsidy too. I’m renting in a neighborhood that I can’t afford to buy in so give me a subsidy or else I’m going to start robbing and shooting at my neighbors. (No sympathy. Grow up.)
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2021 01:02     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly- the gentrify crowd did this. You can’t just toss up row houses and close your eyes to the actual needs of the neighborhood. The problems of systematic/generational racism aren’t going to vanish simply because you bought an over priced home.
I see strong parallels between gentrifiers and climate change deniers. You think that you can muscle through any ill effects of your actions. Turns out- you are both wrong.
So keep pricing people out of the city… and see how that plays out for you.



ThIS +1,000. Residents in gentrifying DC neighborhoods should be taking Bowser & their council membersto task. What programs does Bowser offer to keep young kids off the streets during the year. There is no reason why 12 year olds should be shooting and robbing people.


Wow I didn’t know that Bowser was the parent of all these children.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2021 00:46     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if our streets and communities weren't flooded with guns. There is blood on the hands of every republican in this country.


The Republicans have to move on the gun debate. But at the end of the day, the most important factor by far in explaining disparities in all manner of life outcomes (poverty, unemployment, crime, education) is whether you were born out-of-wedlock. And we all know the statistics are not pretty. Until the Democrats are willing to have a conversation about this, the gunfire will continue.


Democrats are already pro-choice and in favor of policies that increase education, jobs, and alleviate poverty. So, what's your point? That they should be in favor of forced-marriage and polygamy?

I'm sincerely not following exactly what you think Democrats haven't done on these issues.


It’s more that on the road to equity, which is paved with good intentions, democrats blame the guns first. They are which a huge part of the problem, but democrats also casually gloss over the 80% out of birth rate and single parent households, and rise in teens causing crimes, and basically ignore the lack of accountability from the actual perpetrator of a crime. Democracts are basically 100% equity focused and if that means that wealthy tax payers have to put with rising crime to achieve better disparate impact statistics regarding crime, than so be it. It’s this “I know crime is rising and your city might lose its tax base to tax payers fleeing to the safe suburbs, but you can’t make an equity omelette without cracking some eggs. And those eggs are everyone else.”

I hope democrats lose the mid terms because of this, and I hate this word, but this woke attitude toward crime. I also hope Charles Allen and the other Uber liberal idiots on the city council lose on the local level, but I won’t hold my breath. There are too many self flagellating city dwellers who will allow themselves to be crime victims before they actually get serious about policing. They won’t complain. I’ve lived here my whole life, so I know this town is way liberal.


+1

—signed a resident since 1987 and heretofor a lifelong Domcratic voter
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2021 00:38     Subject: Re:Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

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Anonymous wrote:This country will always have stupid young men who resort to violence with one another, often over silly disputes. And as long as we have so many guns, there will be senseless shootings. For sure there may be racist underpinnings, whether it’s indifference to black-on-black crime or whites with a pathological need for guns to defend their property against the blacks and browns they imagine will one day try to take it all away. But the bottom line is that more gun control will be the only way to make this country a decent one. Many of us would gladly live somewhere else if only we could.


There are many communities across this country that don't have "stupid young men" (your words) shooting people and committing crimes. Many families of all races, ethnic groups, and income levels work hard to instill solid values and raise kids who don't commit crimes. My husband and I don't have a gun but don't think it's just a gun problem. It's largely due to parents who give birth but don't parent their children who too often commit violent crimes.


DP but okaayy... don’t really see much disagreement here.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2021 00:35     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Imagine if our streets and communities weren't flooded with guns. There is blood on the hands of every republican in this country.


Imagine if people weren’t paid public benefits in a way that encourages irresponsible parenting.

Imagine if the public benefits system didn’t discourage fathers living with their families.

Imagine if instead of being used to perpetuate misery, public funds were used to promote family stability, a reasonable facsimile of monagomy, school programs that educate in practical skills instead of the latest social activism and non-violence.

Imagine if career violent criminals got taken out of circulation long enough for them to age out of the violent age demographic and receive intensive therapeutic interventions.

“There is blood on the hands of every [democrat] in this country.”


Don’t tease me! Way to logical. Moynihan’s time has come and gone. Sadly. Hoping it will cycle back, though.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2021 00:28     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Anonymous wrote:Why would parents derisively make fun of me for living where I do? What should I have done differently when selecting an address? Sincere question.

— Ward 3 parent


I sincerely doubt they do such actions based solely on “ward number.” That poster who wrote that is not very credible.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2021 00:17     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly- the gentrify crowd did this. You can’t just toss up row houses and close your eyes to the actual needs of the neighborhood. The problems of systematic/generational racism aren’t going to vanish simply because you bought an over priced home.
I see strong parallels between gentrifiers and climate change deniers. You think that you can muscle through any ill effects of your actions. Turns out- you are both wrong.
So keep pricing people out of the city… and see how that plays out for you.


Gentrification is not responsible for this. Do you just not grasp that all of Logan Circle was much more dangerous before it got gentrified?


NIMBYs are responsible for the lack of housing, not gentrifyers (who generally make things safer anyway).

Gentrification is literally taking AWAY backyards. DC is for millionaires & homeless folks. That’s it. You can put your ‘hate has no home here’ yard sign up- but that’s not really a thing. I’m not saying another deserves to be shot. This entire situation is tragic. But I am saying the folks who are squeezed out if their communities, can’t afford/wouldn’t even be allowed in those 14th street restaurants, have no pathway out of the cycle of poverty are going to communicate in some other way.
And yes the ‘lock them up’ is NIMBY


This is completely asinine. These shootings are motivated by stupid disputes between young men who have nothing better to do. Sure, addressing the causes of urban poverty might obliquely address the shootings. But the notion that these shootings are somehow the "language of the unheard" is unmoored from reality.


+1 . Young people with intellectual intelligence or emotional intelligence do not do this. There are enough people with impoverished childhoods who move up and out that make this case clear.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2021 00:06     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly- the gentrify crowd did this. You can’t just toss up row houses and close your eyes to the actual needs of the neighborhood. The problems of systematic/generational racism aren’t going to vanish simply because you bought an over priced home.
I see strong parallels between gentrifiers and climate change deniers. You think that you can muscle through any ill effects of your actions. Turns out- you are both wrong.
So keep pricing people out of the city… and see how that plays out for you.


It’s not so much the gentrification. It’s the fact that the gentrifiers mostly refuse to send their kids to the neighborhood schools which would have the biggest impact on improving AA test scores, outcomes, etc. Instead they flee for charters or privates and walk by the BLM signs on their stoops every day. They are guilty of the worst form of systematic racism, but they are totally clueless about it.


So parents who care about education should sacrifice their children? Do you realize the non-gentrified can go to charters as well?
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2021 00:03     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Anonymous wrote:Honestly- the gentrify crowd did this. You can’t just toss up row houses and close your eyes to the actual needs of the neighborhood. The problems of systematic/generational racism aren’t going to vanish simply because you bought an over priced home.
I see strong parallels between gentrifiers and climate change deniers. You think that you can muscle through any ill effects of your actions. Turns out- you are both wrong.
So keep pricing people out of the city… and see how that plays out for you.


I know you consider yourself a liberal, progressive, and or Democrat. But your line of logic isan embarrassment.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2021 23:57     Subject: Re:Gun shots on 14th street tonight!