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Anonymous wrote:I really don't care if you work them them or just kiss their ass. Affluent players use the league for good competition and to showcase for college play and other ID opportunities. Is what it is.

You think it’s just affluent players in ecnl? That’s a good one.

There are a few exceptions but anyone claiming lower income players have good access to this type of league is either ignorant, clueless or full of crap.

Who’s fault?

People live in alternate worlds based on levels of income. There are few activities where affluent and poor mix. Kids activities, travel, work, schools, shopping, there are few instances where the groups are together. Youth soccer is no different. It’s a problem that has always existed and is difficult to change. Some (the affluent) might say it’s not an issue.

Affluent and poor. Interesting. How about you define what each word means to you. I assure you, I’m not affluent nor poor and I work my butt off to pay for my kids activity. 12-16 hours a day on average. I have a cheap paid off car. I don’t take big vacations. So forth and so on.

So what. Does that mean others still don't have it worse than you? Would you benefit from soccer being a bit cheaper?

Sounds like you want to socialize soccer.

Not at all, and I'm not the OP. My post stated simply stated that if it was a little cheaper what harm would it cause? I didn't know implying that others have it worse than you means I'm calling for socialism.

There is a lot of affordable soccer out there, however, the more "competitive" it gets the more expensive. When dealing with the most competitive environments money should not be a barrier to talented players. All MLS academies are now free but there is no equivalence on the Girls side.

Saying money should not be a barrier does not mean it needs to be free either. Leagues can realign some conferences to reduce travel cutting the most expensive part of participating.

But here’s the thing. No one cares what you want. It’s capitalism. It’s a business. It’s supply and demand. Some MLS academies were free….yeah….but it wasn’t for charity. They were looking to make profits on players via contracts.

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Zilich

No one is stopping you from owning a car. But if you want the lambo, you better have the money

So you are suggesting that ECNL is a Lambo? LOL

How about clubs that use County facilities, supported by our tax dollars, be looked at more as public transportation then? What isn't fair is clubs price many kids out of facilities that their parents tax money helps provide.

We complain about a lack of street soccer culture in this country yet there are very few fields that are not monopolized by pay to play clubs.

ECNL playoffs have 350 teams and 6,000 girls playing this weekend. GA just had big playoff week. USYS is in the middle of regionals and nationals. The system is going to keep growing and growing and pulling in more money. Plenty of great players will develop. It's all one big competition. High school soccer is "just for fun" now. I'm not saying it's right or wrong/good or bad, nor do I have an alternative solution. I will say I wish high school soccer had a stronger presence with better coaches and close communities playing against each other in meaningful games. The schools have the fields there could have been way more "cheap" development in that system...that ship has sailed.

ECNL could significantly reduce the cost of things like playoffs by simply having a East/West conference. Playoffs should be done more regionally within Conferences based on division winners and wildcards. Then have Quarter finals and finals in one weekend during the showcase.

This would make for less travel for players and college coaches alike. It also provides a more focused event that is worth fighting to participate since it is truly a extra showcase for many top teams.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't care if you work them them or just kiss their ass. Affluent players use the league for good competition and to showcase for college play and other ID opportunities. Is what it is.

You think it’s just affluent players in ecnl? That’s a good one.

There are a few exceptions but anyone claiming lower income players have good access to this type of league is either ignorant, clueless or full of crap.

Who’s fault?

People live in alternate worlds based on levels of income. There are few activities where affluent and poor mix. Kids activities, travel, work, schools, shopping, there are few instances where the groups are together. Youth soccer is no different. It’s a problem that has always existed and is difficult to change. Some (the affluent) might say it’s not an issue.

Affluent and poor. Interesting. How about you define what each word means to you. I assure you, I’m not affluent nor poor and I work my butt off to pay for my kids activity. 12-16 hours a day on average. I have a cheap paid off car. I don’t take big vacations. So forth and so on.

So what. Does that mean others still don't have it worse than you? Would you benefit from soccer being a bit cheaper?

Sounds like you want to socialize soccer.

Not at all, and I'm not the OP. My post stated simply stated that if it was a little cheaper what harm would it cause? I didn't know implying that others have it worse than you means I'm calling for socialism.

There is a lot of affordable soccer out there, however, the more "competitive" it gets the more expensive. When dealing with the most competitive environments money should not be a barrier to talented players. All MLS academies are now free but there is no equivalence on the Girls side.

Saying money should not be a barrier does not mean it needs to be free either. Leagues can realign some conferences to reduce travel cutting the most expensive part of participating.

But here’s the thing. No one cares what you want. It’s capitalism. It’s a business. It’s supply and demand. Some MLS academies were free….yeah….but it wasn’t for charity. They were looking to make profits on players via contracts.

Nothing is free
Nothing is free
Nothing is free
Nothing is free

Nada
Zilich

No one is stopping you from owning a car. But if you want the lambo, you better have the money

So you are suggesting that ECNL is a Lambo? LOL

How about clubs that use County facilities, supported by our tax dollars, be looked at more as public transportation then? What isn't fair is clubs price many kids out of facilities that their parents tax money helps provide.

We complain about a lack of street soccer culture in this country yet there are very few fields that are not monopolized by pay to play clubs.

ECNL playoffs have 350 teams and 6,000 girls playing this weekend. GA just had big playoff week. USYS is in the middle of regionals and nationals. The system is going to keep growing and growing and pulling in more money. Plenty of great players will develop. It's all one big competition. High school soccer is "just for fun" now. I'm not saying it's right or wrong/good or bad, nor do I have an alternative solution. I will say I wish high school soccer had a stronger presence with better coaches and close communities playing against each other in meaningful games. The schools have the fields there could have been way more "cheap" development in that system...that ship has sailed.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't care if you work them them or just kiss their ass. Affluent players use the league for good competition and to showcase for college play and other ID opportunities. Is what it is.

You think it’s just affluent players in ecnl? That’s a good one.

There are a few exceptions but anyone claiming lower income players have good access to this type of league is either ignorant, clueless or full of crap.

Who’s fault?

People live in alternate worlds based on levels of income. There are few activities where affluent and poor mix. Kids activities, travel, work, schools, shopping, there are few instances where the groups are together. Youth soccer is no different. It’s a problem that has always existed and is difficult to change. Some (the affluent) might say it’s not an issue.

Affluent and poor. Interesting. How about you define what each word means to you. I assure you, I’m not affluent nor poor and I work my butt off to pay for my kids activity. 12-16 hours a day on average. I have a cheap paid off car. I don’t take big vacations. So forth and so on.

So what. Does that mean others still don't have it worse than you? Would you benefit from soccer being a bit cheaper?

Sounds like you want to socialize soccer.

Not at all, and I'm not the OP. My post stated simply stated that if it was a little cheaper what harm would it cause? I didn't know implying that others have it worse than you means I'm calling for socialism.

There is a lot of affordable soccer out there, however, the more "competitive" it gets the more expensive. When dealing with the most competitive environments money should not be a barrier to talented players. All MLS academies are now free but there is no equivalence on the Girls side.

Saying money should not be a barrier does not mean it needs to be free either. Leagues can realign some conferences to reduce travel cutting the most expensive part of participating.

But here’s the thing. No one cares what you want. It’s capitalism. It’s a business. It’s supply and demand. Some MLS academies were free….yeah….but it wasn’t for charity. They were looking to make profits on players via contracts.

Nothing is free
Nothing is free
Nothing is free
Nothing is free

Nada
Zilich

No one is stopping you from owning a car. But if you want the lambo, you better have the money

So you are suggesting that ECNL is a Lambo? LOL

How about clubs that use County facilities, supported by our tax dollars, be looked at more as public transportation then? What isn't fair is clubs price many kids out of facilities that their parents tax money helps provide.

We complain about a lack of street soccer culture in this country yet there are very few fields that are not monopolized by pay to play clubs.