Anonymous wrote:How long is it going to take before we see any countries catch up to the US. Seriously. The can of whoopass is getting tiring.

It has already been discussed in another thread. The top European women’s club teams(Chelsea, Barca, PSG, etc) would easily beat the USWNT. It is a recent development(could not say that 4-5 year ago) and the US would never play them. So the We Believe marketing hype is safe!

Now in terms of the National teams...no the US is like playing one of the travel super clubs(Solar SC, So Cal Blue, etc). We just have a much bigger player pool vs countries like New Zealand, Japan, Australia, Netherlands, England, etc. The US will win the Olympics without even trying...

I have no idea what the tweet said, but I suspect you all are blowing it way out of proportion.

How long is it going to take before we see any countries catch up to the US. Seriously. The can of whoopass is getting tiring.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s fire a good coach because we don’t like his political views. Smart move.

And yeah we support free speech just in no meaningful way.

So we support a lot of values as parents and coaches, some of which will inevitably clash with free speech protection.

What if a boys coach tweets that women’s soccer is awful to watch? Or that BLM is just a front for rioting? Or that there is way too much illegal immigration in this country? We are not voting on whether to ban such speech. We are talking about whether clubs, like many other employers (including my own), offer some guidance on the acceptable use of social media by employees, and sanction those who do not abide by the guidelines.

Is free speech then a right which is only for people who own their own businesses?

Basics. The constitution prohibits only governmental restrictions on free speech. It does not prevent people from firing you for saying whatever you want. I can tell you that business owners also feel like they are not in a position to say whatever they want, because of commercial repercussions. Other people simply have good matters and discretion, which are not only rights, but privileges and tremendous assets for people who possess them. So again, you can express your views as you like, and you can deal with many others who will express themselves by not hiring or buying from you. It’s not complicated.

Free speech is something that can be valued beyond a minimum legal requirement. Clearly you do not value it and would like to see people punished for expressing views you do not agree with.

This. Also thought that the examples of values "we support" were deliberately chosen to be inflammatory. Women's soccer is awful to watch - just possibly unless you are the parent of one of the players - and no-one in their right mind would suggest anything else.

In the US, yes specially girls youth travel. Now the European women’s leagues are actually entertaining to watch and some women college team are okay also. Georgetown was fun to watch this year. The worst games to watch are the kick ball wrestling matches.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s fire a good coach because we don’t like his political views. Smart move.

And yeah we support free speech just in no meaningful way.

So we support a lot of values as parents and coaches, some of which will inevitably clash with free speech protection.

What if a boys coach tweets that women’s soccer is awful to watch? Or that BLM is just a front for rioting? Or that there is way too much illegal immigration in this country? We are not voting on whether to ban such speech. We are talking about whether clubs, like many other employers (including my own), offer some guidance on the acceptable use of social media by employees, and sanction those who do not abide by the guidelines.

Is free speech then a right which is only for people who own their own businesses?

Basics. The constitution prohibits only governmental restrictions on free speech. It does not prevent people from firing you for saying whatever you want. I can tell you that business owners also feel like they are not in a position to say whatever they want, because of commercial repercussions. Other people simply have good matters and discretion, which are not only rights, but privileges and tremendous assets for people who possess them. So again, you can express your views as you like, and you can deal with many others who will express themselves by not hiring or buying from you. It’s not complicated.

Free speech is something that can be valued beyond a minimum legal requirement. Clearly you do not value it and would like to see people punished for expressing views you do not agree with.

This. Also thought that the examples of values "we support" were deliberately chosen to be inflammatory. Women's soccer is awful to watch - just possibly unless you are the parent of one of the players - and no-one in their right mind would suggest anything else.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s fire a good coach because we don’t like his political views. Smart move.

And yeah we support free speech just in no meaningful way.

So we support a lot of values as parents and coaches, some of which will inevitably clash with free speech protection.

What if a boys coach tweets that women’s soccer is awful to watch? Or that BLM is just a front for rioting? Or that there is way too much illegal immigration in this country? We are not voting on whether to ban such speech. We are talking about whether clubs, like many other employers (including my own), offer some guidance on the acceptable use of social media by employees, and sanction those who do not abide by the guidelines.

Is free speech then a right which is only for people who own their own businesses?

Basics. The constitution prohibits only governmental restrictions on free speech. It does not prevent people from firing you for saying whatever you want. I can tell you that business owners also feel like they are not in a position to say whatever they want, because of commercial repercussions. Other people simply have good matters and discretion, which are not only rights, but privileges and tremendous assets for people who possess them. So again, you can express your views as you like, and you can deal with many others who will express themselves by not hiring or buying from you. It’s not complicated.

Free speech is something that can be valued beyond a minimum legal requirement. Clearly you do not value it and would like to see people punished for expressing views you do not agree with.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s fire a good coach because we don’t like his political views. Smart move.

And yeah we support free speech just in no meaningful way.

So we support a lot of values as parents and coaches, some of which will inevitably clash with free speech protection.

What if a boys coach tweets that women’s soccer is awful to watch? Or that BLM is just a front for rioting? Or that there is way too much illegal immigration in this country? We are not voting on whether to ban such speech. We are talking about whether clubs, like many other employers (including my own), offer some guidance on the acceptable use of social media by employees, and sanction those who do not abide by the guidelines.

Is free speech then a right which is only for people who own their own businesses?

Basics. The constitution prohibits only governmental restrictions on free speech. It does not prevent people from firing you for saying whatever you want. I can tell you that business owners also feel like they are not in a position to say whatever they want, because of commercial repercussions. Other people simply have good matters and discretion, which are not only rights, but privileges and tremendous assets for people who possess them. So again, you can express your views as you like, and you can deal with many others who will express themselves by not hiring or buying from you. It’s not complicated.

I understand what you are saying and your points are not unreasonable - but I think it is complicated. The reason we have free speech is that, as the founders recognized, the right of people to say unpopular things is extremely important for the health of a society. If our current society has evolved in such a way that that becomes impossible for the vast majority of people, we need to look at why and do something about it.

I would also suggest that large corporations today are not really "private" at all. The government limits liability, creates cartels and monopolies through regulation, subsidizes and awards huge contracts to corporations which in turn engage in intensive lobbying. This is the fascist corporate/government partnership model - and such corporations are highly beholden to the government and act in harmony with it.