Anonymous wrote:Is Blair a Republican in disguise? I won’t vote for any Republican ever.

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But you mostly answered a different question, namely, Why does government regulate land use?

Whereas the question I'm hoping people will answer is, Why do people believe that people who live in a particular neighborhood should have regulatory power over land use in that particular neighborhood? They live in the neighborhood, they don't like duplexes, so duplexes should be forbidden????

Because when I buy a house, I buy the neighborhood. Very simple. Direct connection.

You don't, though. You may believe you're buying the neighborhood (or the school) but you're not. You're feeling ownership in something you don't own.

If I buy into a n-hood because I like the n-hood, and if that n-hood changes, then I move out. And, if I am a substantial taxpayer, then I have options, and I move, meaning the County loses tax dollars. The County is already losing taxpayers. As noted elsewhere, top 50% pay 97% of all federal income taxes. In DMV, the County is the least friendly place to live for upper income taxpayers.

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But you mostly answered a different question, namely, Why does government regulate land use?

Whereas the question I'm hoping people will answer is, Why do people believe that people who live in a particular neighborhood should have regulatory power over land use in that particular neighborhood? They live in the neighborhood, they don't like duplexes, so duplexes should be forbidden????

Because when I buy a house, I buy the neighborhood. Very simple. Direct connection.

You don't, though. You may believe you're buying the neighborhood (or the school) but you're not. You're feeling ownership in something you don't own.

You clearly are not a real estate person. Real estate is all about location. A house can be refurbished.

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But you mostly answered a different question, namely, Why does government regulate land use?

Whereas the question I'm hoping people will answer is, Why do people believe that people who live in a particular neighborhood should have regulatory power over land use in that particular neighborhood? They live in the neighborhood, they don't like duplexes, so duplexes should be forbidden????

Because when I buy a house, I buy the neighborhood. Very simple. Direct connection.

You don't, though. You may believe you're buying the neighborhood (or the school) but you're not. You're feeling ownership in something you don't own.

If I buy into a n-hood because I like the n-hood, and if that n-hood changes, then I move out. And, if I am a substantial taxpayer, then I have options, and I move, meaning the County loses tax dollars. The County is already losing taxpayers. As noted elsewhere, top 50% pay 97% of all federal income taxes. In DMV, the County is the least friendly place to live for upper income taxpayers.

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But you mostly answered a different question, namely, Why does government regulate land use?

Whereas the question I'm hoping people will answer is, Why do people believe that people who live in a particular neighborhood should have regulatory power over land use in that particular neighborhood? They live in the neighborhood, they don't like duplexes, so duplexes should be forbidden????

Because when I buy a house, I buy the neighborhood. Very simple. Direct connection.

You don't, though. You may believe you're buying the neighborhood (or the school) but you're not. You're feeling ownership in something you don't own.

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But you mostly answered a different question, namely, Why does government regulate land use?

Whereas the question I'm hoping people will answer is, Why do people believe that people who live in a particular neighborhood should have regulatory power over land use in that particular neighborhood? They live in the neighborhood, they don't like duplexes, so duplexes should be forbidden????

Because when I buy a house, I buy the neighborhood. Very simple. Direct connection.

You don't, though. You may believe you're buying the neighborhood (or the school) but you're not. You're feeling ownership in something you don't own.

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But you mostly answered a different question, namely, Why does government regulate land use?

Whereas the question I'm hoping people will answer is, Why do people believe that people who live in a particular neighborhood should have regulatory power over land use in that particular neighborhood? They live in the neighborhood, they don't like duplexes, so duplexes should be forbidden????

Because when I buy a house, I buy the neighborhood. Very simple. Direct connection.

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I think the definition of NIMBY is deciding to change the character of other people's neighborhood because it will advance your political career. In the meantime, he gets to keep his big SFH. That is Jawando to the core. I'm not interested in duplexes and fourplexes in my neighborhood. So sue me.

Where do people get the idea that they should have a say over housing types in their neighborhood? Where does this end? I'm not interested in hydrangeas in my neighborhood, so should I get to forbid my neighboring property owners from planting hydrangeas?

If you buy in a neighorhood where your street is zoned single family and the council changes it so the density increases exponentially, wealthier taxpayers get tired and leave and your tax base declines.

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I think the definition of NIMBY is deciding to change the character of other people's neighborhood because it will advance your political career. In the meantime, he gets to keep his big SFH. That is Jawando to the core. I'm not interested in duplexes and fourplexes in my neighborhood. So sue me.

Where do people get the idea that they should have a say over housing types in their neighborhood? Where does this end? I'm not interested in hydrangeas in my neighborhood, so should I get to forbid my neighboring property owners from planting hydrangeas?

Is this a serious question?

Sure is. Please answer it.

DP. They get the idea from the fact that people can and do lobby their elected officials against zoning changes and from their HOAs which have rules about how you can modify your property. It's not likely you'll find a property in MoCo that doesn't have restrictions on how you can use/modify it. And that's not inherently a bad thing - we don't want our neighborhoods to become unlivable, for example through more housing than can be supported by existing roads/transit, or by activities that cause pollution/noise - the problem is these processes are the reason why housing supply is way too low and those of us who aren't yet homeowners have a really tough time buying, why our schools are so segregated and why we have a massive affordable housing crisis driving homelessness and that's a total disgrace.

But you mostly answered a different question, namely, Why does government regulate land use?

Whereas the question I'm hoping people will answer is, Why do people believe that people who live in a particular neighborhood should have regulatory power over land use in that particular neighborhood? They live in the neighborhood, they don't like duplexes, so duplexes should be forbidden????

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I think the definition of NIMBY is deciding to change the character of other people's neighborhood because it will advance your political career. In the meantime, he gets to keep his big SFH. That is Jawando to the core. I'm not interested in duplexes and fourplexes in my neighborhood. So sue me.

Where do people get the idea that they should have a say over housing types in their neighborhood? Where does this end? I'm not interested in hydrangeas in my neighborhood, so should I get to forbid my neighboring property owners from planting hydrangeas?

Is this a serious question?

Sounds like a Gen Z progressive with limited life experience

Or a clueless resident of TP.

Actually it's my neighbor's opinion. He was born in 1940, a life-long Montgomery County native, and a white property-owning man who believes the country went wrong when it expanded voting rights beyond white property-owning men. His opinion is, if you want a say-so over property you don't own, then you need to buy it from the owner. It's one of the few political ideas we agree on.

That's BS. Do you think anyone and everyone should be able to build a 100 story building on their property without providing parking or expanding the roads? Or operate a disco? Or build a polluting factory? Not a world I want to live in. Many zoning rules are awful but the framework exists for a reason.

The proposal the PPs are getting upset about are not about allowing 100-story buildings, or discos, or factories (polluting or otherwise), but rather

1. allowing owners of R-60 zoned property located within one mile of a Metrorail station to construct duplexes, townhouses, and multi-family structures as a standard method development within the current R-60 lot coverage, building height, setbacks, minimum lot size, and minimum parking requirements.
2. allowing more flexibility for projects constructed on R-60 zoned sites located within ½ mile of a Metrorail Station, by also excluding them from infill lot coverage limits and the minimum parking requirements.

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I think the definition of NIMBY is deciding to change the character of other people's neighborhood because it will advance your political career. In the meantime, he gets to keep his big SFH. That is Jawando to the core. I'm not interested in duplexes and fourplexes in my neighborhood. So sue me.

Where do people get the idea that they should have a say over housing types in their neighborhood? Where does this end? I'm not interested in hydrangeas in my neighborhood, so should I get to forbid my neighboring property owners from planting hydrangeas?

Is this a serious question?

Sounds like a Gen Z progressive with limited life experience

Or a clueless resident of TP.

Actually it's my neighbor's opinion. He was born in 1940, a life-long Montgomery County native, and a white property-owning man who believes the country went wrong when it expanded voting rights beyond white property-owning men. His opinion is, if you want a say-so over property you don't own, then you need to buy it from the owner. It's one of the few political ideas we agree on.

That's BS. Do you think anyone and everyone should be able to build a 100 story building on their property without providing parking or expanding the roads? Or operate a disco? Or build a polluting factory? Not a world I want to live in. Many zoning rules are awful but the framework exists for a reason.

The proposal the PPs are getting upset about are not about allowing 100-story buildings, or discos, or factories (polluting or otherwise), but rather

1. allowing owners of R-60 zoned property located within one mile of a Metrorail station to construct duplexes, townhouses, and multi-family structures as a standard method development within the current R-60 lot coverage, building height, setbacks, minimum lot size, and minimum parking requirements.
2. allowing more flexibility for projects constructed on R-60 zoned sites located within ½ mile of a Metrorail Station, by also excluding them from infill lot coverage limits and the minimum parking requirements.

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I think the definition of NIMBY is deciding to change the character of other people's neighborhood because it will advance your political career. In the meantime, he gets to keep his big SFH. That is Jawando to the core. I'm not interested in duplexes and fourplexes in my neighborhood. So sue me.

Where do people get the idea that they should have a say over housing types in their neighborhood? Where does this end? I'm not interested in hydrangeas in my neighborhood, so should I get to forbid my neighboring property owners from planting hydrangeas?

Is this a serious question?

Sounds like a Gen Z progressive with limited life experience

Or a clueless resident of TP.

Actually it's my neighbor's opinion. He was born in 1940, a life-long Montgomery County native, and a white property-owning man who believes the country went wrong when it expanded voting rights beyond white property-owning men. His opinion is, if you want a say-so over property you don't own, then you need to buy it from the owner. It's one of the few political ideas we agree on.

That's BS. Do you think anyone and everyone should be able to build a 100 story building on their property without providing parking or expanding the roads? Or operate a disco? Or build a polluting factory? Not a world I want to live in. Many zoning rules are awful but the framework exists for a reason.

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I think the definition of NIMBY is deciding to change the character of other people's neighborhood because it will advance your political career. In the meantime, he gets to keep his big SFH. That is Jawando to the core. I'm not interested in duplexes and fourplexes in my neighborhood. So sue me.

Where do people get the idea that they should have a say over housing types in their neighborhood? Where does this end? I'm not interested in hydrangeas in my neighborhood, so should I get to forbid my neighboring property owners from planting hydrangeas?

Is this a serious question?

Sounds like a Gen Z progressive with limited life experience

Or a clueless resident of TP.

Actually it's my neighbor's opinion. He was born in 1940, a life-long Montgomery County native, and a white property-owning man who believes the country went wrong when it expanded voting rights beyond white property-owning men. His opinion is, if you want a say-so over property you don't own, then you need to buy it from the owner. It's one of the few political ideas we agree on.