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Anonymous wrote:Bumping this up. What do we think now, based on the released CDC guidelines?

I'm still thinking we aren't doing 5-day-a-week in-person school until like 2023.

Also, I feel really depressed about this and DC is fading into a shadow. But f* parents and kids, amirite?

Maybe 2022, idk about all the way until 2023.

It's not an FU to parents, we had these kids. The primary caregiver is the parent or guardian, not the public school system.

The primary place children ages 5-18 spend their days is in a public school building. The ridiculous denial of the fact that our society functions and women are able to work primarily because of this set up is such a bizarre argument to make. Like, you should have planned ahead that during your children’s primary school years you would suddenly need to try to watch your kids full then during the school day every day while also attempting to perform your job.

This. And the saddest part is, many of the people making these arguments consider themselves liberals and are trying to smear everyone who wants schools to open as right-wing. Isn't that cognitive dissonance just tearing you apart?

Mmmm no. You never cared about low SES parents not being able to be on the PTA, participate in their child's education as much as they'd like, or just can't care because basic needs, and they have 2,3,4 jobs.

You don't suddenly get to claim the 'abandoned card' Low SES parents have been figuring it out forever, your turn.

Ok, just wanted to point out that this is highly unlikely. I work full time with poor parents in SE DC.. Most do not have ANY job. Many would like a job. Others do not want a job at all.
But a situation where someone is working 2, 3, 4 jobs is really, really rare.
Just wanted to add my two sense regarding something I happen to know a lot about.

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping this up. What do we think now, based on the released CDC guidelines?

I'm still thinking we aren't doing 5-day-a-week in-person school until like 2023.

Also, I feel really depressed about this and DC is fading into a shadow. But f* parents and kids, amirite?

Maybe 2022, idk about all the way until 2023.

It's not an FU to parents, we had these kids. The primary caregiver is the parent or guardian, not the public school system.

The primary place children ages 5-18 spend their days is in a public school building. The ridiculous denial of the fact that our society functions and women are able to work primarily because of this set up is such a bizarre argument to make. Like, you should have planned ahead that during your children’s primary school years you would suddenly need to try to watch your kids full then during the school day every day while also attempting to perform your job.

This. And the saddest part is, many of the people making these arguments consider themselves liberals and are trying to smear everyone who wants schools to open as right-wing. Isn't that cognitive dissonance just tearing you apart?

Mmmm no. You never cared about low SES parents not being able to be on the PTA, participate in their child's education as much as they'd like, or just can't care because basic needs, and they have 2,3,4 jobs.

You don't suddenly get to claim the 'abandoned card' Low SES parents have been figuring it out forever, your turn.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bumping this up. What do we think now, based on the released CDC guidelines?

I'm still thinking we aren't doing 5-day-a-week in-person school until like 2023.

Also, I feel really depressed about this and DC is fading into a shadow. But f* parents and kids, amirite?

Maybe 2022, idk about all the way until 2023.

It's not an FU to parents, we had these kids. The primary caregiver is the parent or guardian, not the public school system.

The primary place children ages 5-18 spend their days is in a public school building. The ridiculous denial of the fact that our society functions and women are able to work primarily because of this set up is such a bizarre argument to make. Like, you should have planned ahead that during your children’s primary school years you would suddenly need to try to watch your kids full then during the school day every day while also attempting to perform your job.

This. And the saddest part is, many of the people making these arguments consider themselves liberals and are trying to smear everyone who wants schools to open as right-wing. Isn't that cognitive dissonance just tearing you apart?

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping this up. What do we think now, based on the released CDC guidelines?

I'm still thinking we aren't doing 5-day-a-week in-person school until like 2023.

Also, I feel really depressed about this and DC is fading into a shadow. But f* parents and kids, amirite?

Maybe 2022, idk about all the way until 2023.

It's not an FU to parents, we had these kids. The primary caregiver is the parent or guardian, not the public school system.

The primary place children ages 5-18 spend their days is in a public school building. The ridiculous denial of the fact that our society functions and women are able to work primarily because of this set up is such a bizarre argument to make. Like, you should have planned ahead that during your children’s primary school years you would suddenly need to try to watch your kids full then during the school day every day while also attempting to perform your job.

On the more hopeful side I believe that these guidelines assume no vaccinations. If by the fall all teachers can be vaccinated maybe they will update the guidance. Also schools are now testing up to once per week (privates). A lot of testing could have an impact. Also, possibly middle schoolers and above can be vaccinated by the start of school. This too would impact the scenario, and perhaps testing resources could go to elementary schools. Though the reopening plan was limited , dcps was at least successful in partially reopening schools despite all of the obastacles. This can give us at least a glimmer of hope. I imagine privates will be the first to open five days per week (some already are). OSSE may update guidelines so that schools can theoretically open. Simulcast is another interesting technology. With simulcast, one teacher teaches in person students and distance learning only students at the same time with a reduced sized in person class. If these matters are important, please write to your councilmembers.

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Anonymous wrote:If ya'll wanna NOT send your kids to school, fine. I don't care. But PUBLIC school needs to reopen. I know I am not the only parent who would commit to fundraising as much as possible for the teachers at my school to have as much PPE and face shields as they like despite the fact that it's the governments responsibility. When people look back upon the school closures during this pandemic, it will be judged harshly and will be viewed as an epic failure.
The teachers are about to get vaccinated. Any of them who refuse the vaccine will no longer have ground to stand on. I started out supporting the WTU earlier, and I don't think central office or Ferebee is transparent or great or frankly that capable to begin with. But now, I am done. Get vaccinated and get the ^&( back to work or find a new job.

PUBLIC school has never closed. It is education, not buildings. It has evolved, as have myriad other things during a pandemic.

My children would disagree.

Sorry to hear that. Your children are not the teachers' employers and do not set the terms of their employment.

Also, your children at home are heavily influenced by your attitude.

Lol.

Lol is right. "The children are not the employers!" But they are your clients and you have a duty to them. Remember from your classes that teaching is not the same as learning. DC's learning outcomes from DL are bad.

I'm not a teacher. LOL indeed. I don't have a "duty" to them, and teachers don't have a "duty" to be in buildings during a pandemic.

Sorry you don't like it. Sad.

But they do have a duty to do their damn jobs. See Wednesdays = free day off. I hope that the Mayor fires every single one of these losers if they refuse to go back in the fall after vaccinations.

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping this up. What do we think now, based on the released CDC guidelines?

I'm still thinking we aren't doing 5-day-a-week in-person school until like 2023.

Also, I feel really depressed about this and DC is fading into a shadow. But f* parents and kids, amirite?

Maybe 2022, idk about all the way until 2023.

It's not an FU to parents, we had these kids. The primary caregiver is the parent or guardian, not the public school system.

Not to the parents. But it is to the kids. It’s a spectacular failure.

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Anonymous wrote:If ya'll wanna NOT send your kids to school, fine. I don't care. But PUBLIC school needs to reopen. I know I am not the only parent who would commit to fundraising as much as possible for the teachers at my school to have as much PPE and face shields as they like despite the fact that it's the governments responsibility. When people look back upon the school closures during this pandemic, it will be judged harshly and will be viewed as an epic failure.
The teachers are about to get vaccinated. Any of them who refuse the vaccine will no longer have ground to stand on. I started out supporting the WTU earlier, and I don't think central office or Ferebee is transparent or great or frankly that capable to begin with. But now, I am done. Get vaccinated and get the ^&( back to work or find a new job.

PUBLIC school has never closed. It is education, not buildings. It has evolved, as have myriad other things during a pandemic.

My children would disagree.

Sorry to hear that. Your children are not the teachers' employers and do not set the terms of their employment.

Also, your children at home are heavily influenced by your attitude.

Lol.

Lol is right. "The children are not the employers!" But they are your clients and you have a duty to them. Remember from your classes that teaching is not the same as learning. DC's learning outcomes from DL are bad.

I'm not a teacher. LOL indeed. I don't have a "duty" to them, and teachers don't have a "duty" to be in buildings during a pandemic.

Sorry you don't like it. Sad.

Anonymous wrote:Bumping this up. What do we think now, based on the released CDC guidelines?

I'm still thinking we aren't doing 5-day-a-week in-person school until like 2023.

Also, I feel really depressed about this and DC is fading into a shadow. But f* parents and kids, amirite?

Maybe 2022, idk about all the way until 2023.

It's not an FU to parents, we had these kids. The primary caregiver is the parent or guardian, not the public school system.

Are teachers essential employees?

If so, they need to go to work like health care workers, police, fire fighters, etc. OR they are not essential and there are consequences like pay and respect.

Increasingly, I think yes, we will finally be in a position to safely, fully re-open with minimal health accommodations. (And I've been a skeptic about our ability to vaccinate communities, but things are looking up!)

Bumping this up. What do we think now, based on the released CDC guidelines?

I'm still thinking we aren't doing 5-day-a-week in-person school until like 2023.

Also, I feel really depressed about this and DC is fading into a shadow. But f* parents and kids, amirite?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If ya'll wanna NOT send your kids to school, fine. I don't care. But PUBLIC school needs to reopen. I know I am not the only parent who would commit to fundraising as much as possible for the teachers at my school to have as much PPE and face shields as they like despite the fact that it's the governments responsibility. When people look back upon the school closures during this pandemic, it will be judged harshly and will be viewed as an epic failure.
The teachers are about to get vaccinated. Any of them who refuse the vaccine will no longer have ground to stand on. I started out supporting the WTU earlier, and I don't think central office or Ferebee is transparent or great or frankly that capable to begin with. But now, I am done. Get vaccinated and get the ^&( back to work or find a new job.

PUBLIC school has never closed. It is education, not buildings. It has evolved, as have myriad other things during a pandemic.

My children would disagree.

Sorry to hear that. Your children are not the teachers' employers and do not set the terms of their employment.

Also, your children at home are heavily influenced by your attitude.

Lol.

Lol is right. "The children are not the employers!" But they are your clients and you have a duty to them. Remember from your classes that teaching is not the same as learning. DC's learning outcomes from DL are bad.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/11/upshot/schools-reopening-coronavirus-experts.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Schools should open.

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Anonymous wrote:If ya'll wanna NOT send your kids to school, fine. I don't care. But PUBLIC school needs to reopen. I know I am not the only parent who would commit to fundraising as much as possible for the teachers at my school to have as much PPE and face shields as they like despite the fact that it's the governments responsibility. When people look back upon the school closures during this pandemic, it will be judged harshly and will be viewed as an epic failure.
The teachers are about to get vaccinated. Any of them who refuse the vaccine will no longer have ground to stand on. I started out supporting the WTU earlier, and I don't think central office or Ferebee is transparent or great or frankly that capable to begin with. But now, I am done. Get vaccinated and get the ^&( back to work or find a new job.

PUBLIC school has never closed. It is education, not buildings. It has evolved, as have myriad other things during a pandemic.

My children would disagree.

Sorry to hear that. Your children are not the teachers' employers and do not set the terms of their employment.

Also, your children at home are heavily influenced by your attitude.

Lol.