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Anonymous wrote:Pardon me but why did you put medical steering committee in quotes.

You just made my day!

Ha! I actually loved that post. I found it entertaining. The APE crowd got pretty touchy when someone had the gall to ask who was on their medical steering committee.

I had not paid attention to that but now I do find it really odd that this group formed a medical steering committee. Who ARE these people and how much time do they have on their hands... first all those signs and now this?

APE is batsh@t crazy!

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Anonymous wrote:There were actually two fights shut down today. One started when a physician posted some additional information on hospitalization statistics to correct what she said were errors by someone else's prior post. I honestly don't have the interest in sorting through that one to figure out who's misrepresenting data on what, but it got pretty unpleasant in the comments before the moderator shut it down a few hours later.

Then about an hour after that, the lawyer started a new discussion to personally attack the physician who posted earlier (and others). That one got shut down within an hour.

A physician is putting herself out there on AEM? Umm, that does not seem normal. Is she one of the APE crowd?

Oh yes. Full on APE sign waiver. The posts said she's an anesthesiologist at VHC.

So get this. When some study showed it's not good to open schools, this doctor personally emailed the author to try to get him to change his mind. Then she posted on AEM that the data was wrong. As best I could follow, SHE (doctor) was wrong. It was hard to follow. But I found it scary that one of our local doctors would go to such lengths when the study didn't jibe with the open now agenda. This is Covid denial.

Not a good luck for VHC.

Like many specialist, Anesthesiologists are upset that their profits have been hobbled by Covid (fewer elective surgeries). Not who you want to be taking epidemiological advice from. I mean, Trump got a bunch of Covid-denying anti-masking doctors to hold a rally. There are idiots in every profession, including medicine. APE seems like it’s getting a big assist from the Rs on Capital Hill, based on who’s posting on Twitter, and they’re posting to every local jurisdiction. Seems like a ploy to engender hatred of teachers and public schools.

Well the pandemic is getting to all of us but these APE parents are just off their rockers.

Sometimes I just want to reply "Enjoy Covid." But I'm a lurker on AEM.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we need to COVID data for teachers that have not returned to school?

Because they WILL return and will possibly infect your kids. They can carry the virus even after they are vaccinated - parents please be aware of that. Thank goodness there will be masks, but lunch is VERY concerning. I am not suggesting we don't return, we just need more mitigations in place.

It is incredibly unlikely a vaccinated person can infect someone else. It hasn’t been explicitly studied yet, so they can’t say that for sure, but soon it will be.

Thank God we don't make policy decisions of random internet users with agendas who tell us "it soon will be."

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Anonymous wrote:There were actually two fights shut down today. One started when a physician posted some additional information on hospitalization statistics to correct what she said were errors by someone else's prior post. I honestly don't have the interest in sorting through that one to figure out who's misrepresenting data on what, but it got pretty unpleasant in the comments before the moderator shut it down a few hours later.

Then about an hour after that, the lawyer started a new discussion to personally attack the physician who posted earlier (and others). That one got shut down within an hour.

A physician is putting herself out there on AEM? Umm, that does not seem normal. Is she one of the APE crowd?

Oh yes. Full on APE sign waiver. The posts said she's an anesthesiologist at VHC.

So get this. When some study showed it's not good to open schools, this doctor personally emailed the author to try to get him to change his mind. Then she posted on AEM that the data was wrong. As best I could follow, SHE (doctor) was wrong. It was hard to follow. But I found it scary that one of our local doctors would go to such lengths when the study didn't jibe with the open now agenda. This is Covid denial.

Not a good luck for VHC.

Anonymous wrote:There were actually two fights shut down today. One started when a physician posted some additional information on hospitalization statistics to correct what she said were errors by someone else's prior post. I honestly don't have the interest in sorting through that one to figure out who's misrepresenting data on what, but it got pretty unpleasant in the comments before the moderator shut it down a few hours later.

Then about an hour after that, the lawyer started a new discussion to personally attack the physician who posted earlier (and others). That one got shut down within an hour.

A physician is putting herself out there on AEM? Umm, that does not seem normal. Is she one of the APE crowd?

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Anonymous wrote:Pardon me but why did you put medical steering committee in quotes.

You just made my day!

Ha! I actually loved that post. I found it entertaining. The APE crowd got pretty touchy when someone had the gall to ask who was on their medical steering committee.

I had not paid attention to that but now I do find it really odd that this group formed a medical steering committee. Who ARE these people and how much time do they have on their hands... first all those signs and now this?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we need to COVID data for teachers that have not returned to school?

We don’t. No large employers are doing this for their remote work force. Why do people think schools should be any different?

Different calculus for employees actually working in person, obviously.

Yes. It’s the same crew of like 10 people that just post the same shit over and over. And apparently there’s a rally this weekend? The same weekend when many of them are being vaccinated? I hope these folks need to sign a commitment to return in person before they are given a jab.

Oh my God. It will literally be a 10 person rally. I’m an APS teacher. We’re getting vaccinated- we’re done. We’re happy this hell is over.

Anyone know how the rally turned out?

I know this for sure- there are about 100 Open Schools now signs for any and every car there today. And I think it all should stop. I recognize he hadn’t set dates yet (which I get and appreciate), but it will happen. This craziness is coming to an end.

Wow the Open School propaganda machine is out in full force on DCUM. Don't you people do anything else ever?

85 cars at the rally.
Saw 4 people - 2 adults - 2 kids - standing on sidewalk with an Open Now sign.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we need to COVID data for teachers that have not returned to school?

Because they WILL return and will possibly infect your kids. They can carry the virus even after they are vaccinated - parents please be aware of that. Thank goodness there will be masks, but lunch is VERY concerning. I am not suggesting we don't return, we just need more mitigations in place.

It is incredibly unlikely a vaccinated person can infect someone else. It hasn’t been explicitly studied yet, so they can’t say that for sure, but soon it will be.

You can’t say it’s incredibly unlikely if we don’t yet know. Some studies have shown that you can still carry the virus in your nasal passages even after you have immunity. Yes more time needs to be taken to study but that’s why we all need to continue the precautions of maxing and social distancing. Just take a look at the travel board and people that think they can go without masks traveling once They get the vaccine. But that’s beside the point of this specific topic. The point, teachers having vaccines will protect them and that’s incredible. However it doesn’t necessarily protect the children, there are so many articles about this. Here’s an article from NPR, of course left-leaning but the information is coming from the CDC.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/12/956051995/why-you-should-still-wear-a-mask-and-avoid-crowds-after-getting-the-covid-19-vac

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we need to COVID data for teachers that have not returned to school?

Because they WILL return and will possibly infect your kids. They can carry the virus even after they are vaccinated - parents please be aware of that. Thank goodness there will be masks, but lunch is VERY concerning. I am not suggesting we don't return, we just need more mitigations in place.

I agree with you about lunch! Unmasked lunch is really concerning. We have to figure out how to get it outside. I have wondered....can’t we do heated tents like the restaurants? Something.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we need to COVID data for teachers that have not returned to school?

Because they WILL return and will possibly infect your kids. They can carry the virus even after they are vaccinated - parents please be aware of that. Thank goodness there will be masks, but lunch is VERY concerning. I am not suggesting we don't return, we just need more mitigations in place.

It is incredibly unlikely a vaccinated person can infect someone else. It hasn’t been explicitly studied yet, so they can’t say that for sure, but soon it will be.

Yes. I would tend to agree with that based on what I’ve read, although no certainty. I would say at some point, people ages 16 and up are going to all be vaccinated, and pretty safe from this virus. The problem is going to be with kids ages 10 to 16, and the possibility of them infecting one another. The prognosis on kids is generally good, but, I don’t know.... not always. Some children have gotten very, very ill. The asymptomatic spread kind of reminds me of strep. You could have someone that’s a carrier, and you wouldn’t know it, and they might be in your kids’ classroom.

We’re looking at a much better scenario with adults vaccinated. Teachers, and hopefully soon, parents at home that could get it from the kids.

And when we get a kids’ vaccine....THAT will be the party!!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do we need to COVID data for teachers that have not returned to school?

Because they WILL return and will possibly infect your kids. They can carry the virus even after they are vaccinated - parents please be aware of that. Thank goodness there will be masks, but lunch is VERY concerning. I am not suggesting we don't return, we just need more mitigations in place.

It is incredibly unlikely a vaccinated person can infect someone else. It hasn’t been explicitly studied yet, so they can’t say that for sure, but soon it will be.

Yes. I would tend to agree with that based on what I’ve read, although no certainty. I would say at some point, people ages 16 and up are going to all be vaccinated, and pretty safe from this virus. The problem is going to be with kids ages 10 to 16, and the possibility of them infecting one another. The prognosis on kids is generally good, but, I don’t know.... not always. Some children have gotten very, very ill. The asymptomatic spread kind of reminds me of strep. You could have someone that’s a carrier, and you wouldn’t know it, and they might be in your kids’ classroom.

We’re looking at a much better scenario with adults vaccinated. Teachers, and hopefully soon, parents at home that could get it from the kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we need to COVID data for teachers that have not returned to school?

Because they WILL return and will possibly infect your kids. They can carry the virus even after they are vaccinated - parents please be aware of that. Thank goodness there will be masks, but lunch is VERY concerning. I am not suggesting we don't return, we just need more mitigations in place.

It is incredibly unlikely a vaccinated person can infect someone else. It hasn’t been explicitly studied yet, so they can’t say that for sure, but soon it will be.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we need to COVID data for teachers that have not returned to school?

Because they WILL return and will possibly infect your kids. They can carry the virus even after they are vaccinated - parents please be aware of that. Thank goodness there will be masks, but lunch is VERY concerning. I am not suggesting we don't return, we just need more mitigations in place.

Also teachers who need leave due to COVID must notify APS. When you consider that, the numbers are quite low (and before anyone jumps down my throat I am an APS teacher.)

Yes the 55 number is not all that high when you take all into consideration. My kid's teacher had COVID and was still working virtually; we all could hear the teacher coughing and sounding awful

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we need to COVID data for teachers that have not returned to school?

Because they WILL return and will possibly infect your kids. They can carry the virus even after they are vaccinated - parents please be aware of that. Thank goodness there will be masks, but lunch is VERY concerning. I am not suggesting we don't return, we just need more mitigations in place.

Also teachers who need leave due to COVID must notify APS. When you consider that, the numbers are quite low (and before anyone jumps down my throat I am an APS teacher.)