Anonymous wrote:Of course teachers can argue for their individual interest. But that does not mean their individual interest is what is best for society and kids as a whole.

yes, but we live in a society where folks have individual rights and which is set up to run on and accommodate self interest. Unlike communist China, we can’t throw a whole class of people under the bus for the common good. We can place economic pressure on them or give them economic incentives to do our will. Some teachers have muttered about hazard pay which I think would be great but, if you think about it, they are mostly asking for guarantees of safe working conditions, so I am perplexed why some folks are so intent on demonizing them.

Of course teachers can argue for their individual interest. But that does not mean their individual interest is what is best for society and kids as a whole.

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Arlington is going to open schools for K-3 or 5at the first sign of case numbers stabilizing. They realize (although should have known) what damage they have done. Kids aren’t learning and are losing learning every day they aren’t in a classroom.

Really? They have done the damage? Stop being ridiculous. When are people like you going to stop blaming teachers and school systems for things that were beyond their control? This is a pandemic, for chrissake! Do you honestly think they had a crystal ball and knew how long this would last, or how it would play out?

Yes, they. As in the people who have refused to open schools. Blame who you want for that. But teachers bear some of it for their constant lobbying to keep schools virtual. All teachers? No. But those who did bear some of the weight of the harm keeping schools closed have had on kids.

They do not deserve any such thing. Their health and their families are not less important to them than your kids. They had every right to ask for safety in a pandemic. You need to be mad at the federal government that failed EVERYONE and created unchecked spread that led us here.

Stop expecting teachers to shut up and be martyrs. They are allowed to advocate for safe working conditions and speak out if they don’t feel comfortable returning. Teachers are doing a job and they deserve to feel safe. The demonization some push when they don’t get their way is disgusting. If you hate us so much why do you let us spend more time with your own children than you do.

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Arlington is going to open schools for K-3 or 5at the first sign of case numbers stabilizing. They realize (although should have known) what damage they have done. Kids aren’t learning and are losing learning every day they aren’t in a classroom.

Really? They have done the damage? Stop being ridiculous. When are people like you going to stop blaming teachers and school systems for things that were beyond their control? This is a pandemic, for chrissake! Do you honestly think they had a crystal ball and knew how long this would last, or how it would play out?

Yes, they. As in the people who have refused to open schools. Blame who you want for that. But teachers bear some of it for their constant lobbying to keep schools virtual. All teachers? No. But those who did bear some of the weight of the harm keeping schools closed have had on kids.

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Arlington is going to open schools for K-3 or 5at the first sign of case numbers stabilizing. They realize (although should have known) what damage they have done. Kids aren’t learning and are losing learning every day they aren’t in a classroom.

Really? They have done the damage? Stop being ridiculous. When are people like you going to stop blaming teachers and school systems for things that were beyond their control? This is a pandemic, for chrissake! Do you honestly think they had a crystal ball and knew how long this would last, or how it would play out?

You don't need a crystal ball to look at what so many other public and private systems around the good ole USA have done to open, not to mention pretty much every single other developed country. We are inexcusably behind any reasonable curve on this one.

Arlington is going to open schools for K-3 or 5at the first sign of case numbers stabilizing. They realize (although should have known) what damage they have done. Kids aren’t learning and are losing learning every day they aren’t in a classroom.

Really? They have done the damage? Stop being ridiculous. When are people like you going to stop blaming teachers and school systems for things that were beyond their control? This is a pandemic, for chrissake! Do you honestly think they had a crystal ball and knew how long this would last, or how it would play out?

Anonymous wrote:Think the point is that members of this group are asserting some pretty extreme views.

You mean on AEM - yes you are right just recently someone who I believe is actually an APS employee posted how any return to school would equal death !😱 can you imagine if they tell that to their own child or worse students? Many of those on AEM really have strong paranoia. At times there are posts that even the CDC is not to be believed and they aren’t a valid source of information.

Think the point is that members of this group are asserting some pretty extreme views.

Anonymous wrote:The APE person that speaks at our PTA meetings thinks that everyone who selected hybrid wants schools to open right now. She said that.

So what? You and many other posters seem to have forgotten that APE is nothing more than a Facebook group. A group of parents exchanging comments on social media. They are not organized in the way a PTA

There are posters here like you who seem to think that this person or any person can speak on behalf of this Facebook group? Are you seriously so dumb that you don’t get that it’s group on social media???

Anonymous wrote:The APE person that speaks at our PTA meetings thinks that everyone who selected hybrid wants schools to open right now. She said that.

She’s wrong but they have said you can switch from hybrid to virtual. Everyone who selected hybrid and isn’t comfortable — switch.

Arlington is going to open schools for K-3 or 5at the first sign of case numbers stabilizing. They realize (although should have known) what damage they have done. Kids aren’t learning and are losing learning every day they aren’t in a classroom.

The APE person that speaks at our PTA meetings thinks that everyone who selected hybrid wants schools to open right now. She said that.

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Anonymous wrote:For real? Then why are they spending so much time on this. Is it a political thing? The APE parent who won’t shut up at our PTA meetings has kids in APS.

I have no idea. Yeah, some have kids in APS but a surprising number of them don't.

I am in that group

I can think of a handful of people who have their child in private this year

And I have noticed in recent weeks a trend in AEM with more people
supporting opening

If kids don’t get back now , the curriculum will be dumbed down in years to come in high farms rate elementary schools which will definitely fuel flight to private school

You're delusional. No one wants to open during the surge instead of APE.

Anonymous wrote:I don't know if it is one person or multiple people saying there is incomplete data- but what is your basis for that statement? VDH asserts that it is publishing data daily. VHHA states it is a daily count of hospitalizations, reported daily from hospitals the night before. deaths are lagging bc they have to be investigated/ etc- but case counts and hospitalizations in Virginia are on a one day lag. What source do you have to suggest otherwise?

You don’t have a comprehensive data set unless you are testing EVERYONE including potentially asymptomatic individuals (which are very likely to be children, so these conclusions about “low transmission rate” in schools is rather suspect).