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Anonymous wrote:I watched it and was expecting much worse than what I saw after reading these articles. There were a few dancing sequences that they could’ve left the close-up shots out of but I thought the story was mostly centered around the story with her mother and family.

So other than the soft core child porn it was alright? Good to know.

I guess I just didn’t see it unless Netflix edited the film from earlier. I’ve had to sit through a lot of dance competitions and it wasn’t much worse than anything I’ve seen there. The photo she took that I read about was implied , you didn’t actually see a photo.

You might have a very warped idea of things. I've seen clips and the stuff was sick beyond words. I dont want to see close ups of 10 year old crotches though- YMMV

Is this the movie we are talking about?
I'm very confused about the controversy other than the shitty promo photo from Netflix. It seems like a commentary on shit we feed girls and the result that they are going to want likes and what not online starting at 11, set against an immgrant/culture clash story?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEVQ6HwBflg

Is it just drastically different from the trailer? I don't see satanic in there- I see someone holding up a mirror to social media/ sexualization culture, for sure. I don't understand the satanic part? Is this all just that weird Qanon online group stirring up shit- because they believe something like democrats eat and sexually abuse kids in pizza places and such?

You know, I'm really not sure how to explain to you that close up shots of children's bottoms while they twerk is essentially soft core porn. That seems like something that should be intuitive, and, if it's not, it's either because the person has some kind of insurmountable cognitive deficit or they just don't want to see it. Neither is solvable- not by me at least- maybe God!

I wish you the best! And I hope don't have children!

The fact that you view children dancing as porn says a lot about you. Most people don’t find kids sexual. Gross.

Obviously twerking and sexualized dancing is sexual in nature. The fact that you want to deny or ignore that pedophiles exist says a lot about your motives. Sickening and shameful.

I don’t deny you exist. Just saying most adults would find the dancing in the movie to be awkward and not sexual.

Most people find it extremely awkward to watch... because there's a huge amount of pedophiles out there. Actually awkward is a mild term for it. Which I suspect you know, so it says it all that you're playing dumb. disgusting.

Anonymous wrote:The trailer above does not reflect the disturbing aspects of the movie.
It’s either been scrubbed due to the controversy or it never contained them.

Check out this video for a breakdown of the disturbing scenes/aspects:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=exCNHEGnZ5M

There’s one scene where 11 year olds do basically a strip tease to
Avoid punishment from two old men security guards....the 11 year olds grind the floor in a way that looks like sex.

The filmography has lots of lingering shots on the 11 year olds
Crotches.

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Anonymous wrote:For those who don’t wish to or can’t watch the clip that was posted, let me describe it as non-explicitly as possible. Girls that appear to be 12 or 13 years old are wearing skin tight booty shorts that fully expose the shape of their private parts. They gyrate around and twerk both in the air on the floor. They rub their hands over their private parts multiple times and smack their own butts. They gyrate over their dance partners who also slap each other’s butts to music singing “do you want it”. They turn their backsides to the audience and bend over into a doggy position and run their hands between their crotches and thighs.

Someone explain to me again what part of this has to do with being black?

Haven’t watched the clip, but I’ll play.

I don’t think of what you described as “black.”

I do however think of it as urban/pop culture dancing related to certain musical genres. Have you ever seen a rap video?

You don’t see the same dancing in country music videos.

Both Beyoncé and Brittany were sexualized by their parents and managers. Miley Cyrus seems incapable of keeping her clothes on. Lizzo and Cardi B like to dress skimpily and twerk. Latinas do it, too (JLo, Shakira).

It’s a music and dancing thing. And, black artists tend to be more successful and popular, so it’s heavily connected to them.

I watched it and thought it was a well done film. If you watch the movie, it is definitely not a "black thing". One of those girls everyone here is calling white is Latina and all of the music they are dancing to is reggaeton. The girls watch these reggaeton videos and then mimic the dance moves. They practice for a competition and perform this highly sexualized dance at the end and it is VERY clear the audience members are really uncomfortable with it. The protagonist, Amy, who was at first shy and curious about these bawdier girls and manages to work her way into this "cool" group and teaches herself to dance, has a crisis of confidence on stage and realizes that in rebelling she may have gone too far. The whole film is about female adolescence and the testing of boundaries, coupled with the cultural aspect of all (? there is one white girl where it is unclear) being immigrants trying to figure out where they fit into their new country. The dancing makes sense in context and isn't really titillating unless you are already inclined to be turned on by 11-13 year olds.

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Anonymous wrote:This has been going on for such a long time and now outrage? The only reason it is getting outrage is because QAnon jumped on the whole #SavetheChildren thing, all their followers are following along and now the Republican politicians are getting involved. It's a QAnon/QAnon followers outrage. Where were they years ago when all these other girls were being sexualized.

What is your point here? Do you condone the 11-year old gyration video or not?

Ok, then, so you are okay with 11 year olds rubbing their crotch and stimulating sex while dancing?

Nobody was rubbing their crotch or simulating sex. Obviously you didn’t watch the movie like most of the posters in this thread.

Anonymous wrote:There’s an important point many are missing about this film. It’s a French movie by a Senegalese immigrant. It has nothing to do with your pearl-clutching prudish American culture. As a matter of fact, the danse scenes are typical of traditional Senegalese dancing. Just watch the video below to understand.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oKZM1XAbREQ

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Anonymous wrote:Just finished watching the movie. As someone who has family in France and who goes there often, it was very relatable. The sexualized dance routine was just a small part of the movie. The main theme was how family dysfunction negatively affects young children, causing them to rebel against their family’s traditions, religion, etc. In this case, it was a young Muslim girl and the director was obviously going for the shock factor (and obviously it worked judging by the comments on this thread). Those saying it’s CP have obviously not watched the movie in its entirety.

+1. I don't even think you need a connection to France either to find it relatable. I thought it was a really well done movie about the lives of girls and adolescence shot from an obviously female perspective. The dance routine was really pretty minimal and again,. reflective of the culture girls are being raised in. I thought it was almost endearing how they were trying to sexualize themselves, but were actually pretty goofy and awkward. That's reflective of a lot of women's experiences as they are going through puberty and learning how to shape themselves for the world's view and particularly, the male gaze. As a woman, it was almost cute. Like you'd have to already be a gross pedophile who walks around in the summer looking for pre-teens in short shorts to find it really sexual and anything approaching "child porn." The pearl clutching seems entirely unwarranted to me. It sort of reminds me of when the movie 13 came out in 2003 and people FREAKED OUT.

Anonymous wrote:It's clearly about the challenges of growing up as an adolescent girl in a culture that aggressively sexualizes young women while also depriving young women of any agency around their own bodies. I thought it was interesting to see this idea through the eyes of a Senegalese immigrant girl in a Western country that is not the US, and I also found the way the story explores Amy's relationship to her Muslim culture versus how she relates to the broader mainstream culture to be very thoughtfully done.

It's so dumb that this movie has received tons of negative attention just because Netflix messed up the way it advertised the film. It does not exploit young women. The opposite -- it is a story told from the point of view of a young woman that honestly addresses issues young girls everywhere have to deal with. It made me think a lot about how I responded to sexualized imagery and pressure as an adolescent in the 90s. Plus it's a critically claimed movie that won an award at Sundance, directed by a black woman. The "controversy" around it is dumb. Watch it.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched it and was expecting much worse than what I saw after reading these articles. There were a few dancing sequences that they could’ve left the close-up shots out of but I thought the story was mostly centered around the story with her mother and family.

So other than the soft core child porn it was alright? Good to know.

I guess I just didn’t see it unless Netflix edited the film from earlier. I’ve had to sit through a lot of dance competitions and it wasn’t much worse than anything I’ve seen there. The photo she took that I read about was implied , you didn’t actually see a photo.

You might have a very warped idea of things. I've seen clips and the stuff was sick beyond words. I dont want to see close ups of 10 year old crotches though- YMMV

Is this the movie we are talking about?
I'm very confused about the controversy other than the shitty promo photo from Netflix. It seems like a commentary on shit we feed girls and the result that they are going to want likes and what not online starting at 11, set against an immgrant/culture clash story?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEVQ6HwBflg

Is it just drastically different from the trailer? I don't see satanic in there- I see someone holding up a mirror to social media/ sexualization culture, for sure. I don't understand the satanic part? Is this all just that weird Qanon online group stirring up shit- because they believe something like democrats eat and sexually abuse kids in pizza places and such?

You know, I'm really not sure how to explain to you that close up shots of children's bottoms while they twerk is essentially soft core porn. That seems like something that should be intuitive, and, if it's not, it's either because the person has some kind of insurmountable cognitive deficit or they just don't want to see it. Neither is solvable- not by me at least- maybe God!

I wish you the best! And I hope don't have children!

The fact that you view children dancing as porn says a lot about you. Most people don’t find kids sexual. Gross.

Obviously twerking and sexualized dancing is sexual in nature. The fact that you want to deny or ignore that pedophiles exist says a lot about your motives. Sickening and shameful.

I don’t deny you exist. Just saying most adults would find the dancing in the movie to be awkward and not sexual.