Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 16:07     Subject: Re:I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.

Anonymous wrote:
NP. Actually those 14,004 cases are the ones they know of. I have read in an article that the actual cases may be more than 20 times that. So 4.8/20 would give a mortality rate of 0.24%


The case-fatality rate is known, and it's about 5% in Montgomery County. The true fatality rate is unknown, and all that anybody can do is estimate it.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 16:06     Subject: Re:I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. Keep in mind those people are a small (yet vocal) minority. All the teachers that I know IRL want to go back into the classroom. (Of course, my friends and I are in the 25 to 50 year old set.)


This.

Also OP, are the people saying this teachers?

DH is worried. I'm high risk, he could bring it home. But "scared"? No.


Not just teachers. Pretty much everyone who seems to have this irrational fear that they are going to get Covid-spread it to everyone in their family and all die.

Fun fact: of you have been watching the moco dashboard the death rate is 0.05%.


Fun Fact: Learn math! 674 deaths out of 14,004 cases is 0.048, NOT 0.05%. It's 4.8%

Enjoy the rally in Tulsa this afternoon!

NP. Actually those 14,004 cases are the ones they know of. I have read in an article that the actual cases may be more than 20 times that. So 4.8/20 would give a mortality rate of 0.24%


That seems very speculative to me. If 20 times the number of people have had it, that’s 280,000. MoCo population is about 1 million. Do you really think over 1/4 of everyone has had it? No antibody testing anywhere has shown numbers anything like that.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 15:41     Subject: Re:I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. Keep in mind those people are a small (yet vocal) minority. All the teachers that I know IRL want to go back into the classroom. (Of course, my friends and I are in the 25 to 50 year old set.)


This.

Also OP, are the people saying this teachers?

DH is worried. I'm high risk, he could bring it home. But "scared"? No.


Not just teachers. Pretty much everyone who seems to have this irrational fear that they are going to get Covid-spread it to everyone in their family and all die.

Fun fact: of you have been watching the moco dashboard the death rate is 0.05%.


Fun Fact: Learn math! 674 deaths out of 14,004 cases is 0.048, NOT 0.05%. It's 4.8%

Enjoy the rally in Tulsa this afternoon!

NP. Actually those 14,004 cases are the ones they know of. I have read in an article that the actual cases may be more than 20 times that. So 4.8/20 would give a mortality rate of 0.24%
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 15:31     Subject: Re:I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. Keep in mind those people are a small (yet vocal) minority. All the teachers that I know IRL want to go back into the classroom. (Of course, my friends and I are in the 25 to 50 year old set.)


This.

Also OP, are the people saying this teachers?

DH is worried. I'm high risk, he could bring it home. But "scared"? No.


Not just teachers. Pretty much everyone who seems to have this irrational fear that they are going to get Covid-spread it to everyone in their family and all die.

Fun fact: of you have been watching the moco dashboard the death rate is 0.05%.


Fun Fact: Learn math! 674 deaths out of 14,004 cases is 0.048, NOT 0.05%. It's 4.8%

Enjoy the rally in Tulsa this afternoon!
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 12:22     Subject: Re:I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. Keep in mind those people are a small (yet vocal) minority. All the teachers that I know IRL want to go back into the classroom. (Of course, my friends and I are in the 25 to 50 year old set.)


This.

Also OP, are the people saying this teachers?

DH is worried. I'm high risk, he could bring it home. But "scared"? No.


Not just teachers. Pretty much everyone who seems to have this irrational fear that they are going to get Covid-spread it to everyone in their family and all die.

Fun fact: of you have been watching the moco dashboard the death rate is 0.05%.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 12:11     Subject: Re:I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.

Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. Keep in mind those people are a small (yet vocal) minority. All the teachers that I know IRL want to go back into the classroom. (Of course, my friends and I are in the 25 to 50 year old set.)


This.

Also OP, are the people saying this teachers?

DH is worried. I'm high risk, he could bring it home. But "scared"? No.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 11:52     Subject: Re:I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

Publicly that's what they say. There will be a vaccine.[/quote]

Another person who bought a crystal ball without a warranty.[/quote]

We can compare notes in January.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 11:51     Subject: Re:I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.

[quote=Anonymous]

Publicly that's what they say. There will be a vaccine.[/quote]

Another person who bought a crystal ball without a warranty.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 11:36     Subject: Re:I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The way I see it, worst case scenario is that all of this ends in January 2021. They will have a vaccine, in fact they probably will have five options to choose from. Whatever plans you make, recognize this isn't a forever problem. The schools I'm sure are thinking about that as they allocate resources, which means they're taking away in other areas. [/quote]

We have no idea when we will have a vaccine. There is no way to make that prediction. [/quote]

Yes we can. I have spoken to people who are creating and testing these vaccines. I would bank on it.[/quote]

We all know multiple companies are working on vaccines. They have said themselves that they:
1. Don't have a timeline.
2. Have no idea how effective they will actually be.
3. If effective have no idea how long the immunity will last.

[/quote]

Publicly that's what they say. There will be a vaccine.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 11:08     Subject: Re:I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The way I see it, worst case scenario is that all of this ends in January 2021. They will have a vaccine, in fact they probably will have five options to choose from. Whatever plans you make, recognize this isn't a forever problem. The schools I'm sure are thinking about that as they allocate resources, which means they're taking away in other areas. [/quote]

We have no idea when we will have a vaccine. There is no way to make that prediction. [/quote]

Yes we can. I have spoken to people who are creating and testing these vaccines. I would bank on it.[/quote]

We all know multiple companies are working on vaccines. They have said themselves that they:
1. Don't have a timeline.
2. Have no idea how effective they will actually be.
3. If effective have no idea how long the immunity will last.

Anonymous
Post 06/20/2020 11:00     Subject: Re:I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The way I see it, worst case scenario is that all of this ends in January 2021. They will have a vaccine, in fact they probably will have five options to choose from. Whatever plans you make, recognize this isn't a forever problem. The schools I'm sure are thinking about that as they allocate resources, which means they're taking away in other areas. [/quote]

We have no idea when we will have a vaccine. There is no way to make that prediction. [/quote]

Yes we can. I have spoken to people who are creating and testing these vaccines. I would bank on it.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2020 21:29     Subject: Re:I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.

Anonymous wrote:The way I see it, worst case scenario is that all of this ends in January 2021. They will have a vaccine, in fact they probably will have five options to choose from. Whatever plans you make, recognize this isn't a forever problem. The schools I'm sure are thinking about that as they allocate resources, which means they're taking away in other areas.


That's ridiculous, PP. The worst case scenario is that there is never a vaccine, and we just have to keep going until there is herd immunity.

Actually, the worst case scenario is that there is never a vaccine, plus the virus mutates to become more virulent.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2020 21:05     Subject: Re:I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.

Anonymous wrote:The way I see it, worst case scenario is that all of this ends in January 2021. They will have a vaccine, in fact they probably will have five options to choose from. Whatever plans you make, recognize this isn't a forever problem. The schools I'm sure are thinking about that as they allocate resources, which means they're taking away in other areas.


We have no idea when we will have a vaccine. There is no way to make that prediction.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2020 20:56     Subject: Re:I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. Keep in mind those people are a small (yet vocal) minority. All the teachers that I know IRL want to go back into the classroom. (Of course, my friends and I are in the 25 to 50 year old set.)


I really hope that's the case.

Another teacher. I want to go back. I actually love my job and want to work


I want to go back. I love my job. I love teaching so much that I switched careers to do it, taking a big lifestyle hit. I want to work. I need to work. But I also love my DH and don’t want to bring home something that might kill him. I hate that I’m vilified on this site for want to both teach and keep my family safe. MCPS screwed over BOTH teachers and students by imposing insane restrictions on instruction. Left to their own devices, most teachers would have figured out better systems within a week. I fear teachers and students will be screwed over again if we go back to the classrooms because we won’t have proper precautions in place. Even if no students get physically ill, many familiar faces will start disappearing as the adults leave from illness or fear. In early March, we had one adult in our building go home with a fever and coughing, it turned out that he had the flu, but the next day, there were 14 staff members out and only two subs showed. Coincidence? Maybe, but it did not instill confidence in the rest of us who had to do coverage for all those classes. And it made students nervous, especially the ALT 1 students that staff member worked with. Rumors can derail an instructional program. Luckily, he shared an email that he just had flu. People came back and the kids settled down. Of course, the official announcement of COVID here came and riled the students up again.Rolling shutdowns will not be a good situation for families or staff.


There need to be reasonable accommodations to reduce exposure for people who are at high risk or who have high-risk people in their household.

Everybody else needs to be back in school.
[b]


+1


If you are so sure there will be reasonable accommodations, why haven’t needs been discussed with the applicable students and staff?

And if reasonable accommodations can’t/won’t be made? ‘Eff ‘em? That seems to be that attitude.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2020 20:12     Subject: Re:I'm so tired of the "think of the teachers and administrators" rhetoric on every thread.

The way I see it, worst case scenario is that all of this ends in January 2021. They will have a vaccine, in fact they probably will have five options to choose from. Whatever plans you make, recognize this isn't a forever problem. The schools I'm sure are thinking about that as they allocate resources, which means they're taking away in other areas.