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Anonymous wrote:It's really amazing how all of Trump's two dozen accusers are lying opportunists. But we must, we must believe Tara Reade!

Um, maybe you’re not aware but no one is saying we “must” believe anyone. But continuing to point out your hypocrisy (depending on who’s doing the accusing) is exhausting.

You're exhausting. Please, come up with a single valid point and people will listen to you. But you haven't, yet. Just a bunch of BS that needs to be refuted using actual facts.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Yes, Boyne is the first accuser for whom it's basically she-said-he-said.

There are no decades-old sexual misconduct lawsuits, for example from 1993 (Ivana) or 1997 (Harth). There are no witnesses or friends the accuser confided in decades before Trump ran for president, unlike Leeds, Anderson, and Harth.

None of this means Boyne is lying, though. Also, it seems consistent with Trump's p--ssy-grabbing behavior.

Convenient that she came out with her story a week after the Access Hollywood tape was released.
Coincidental? Of course not.
She is an opportunist.

What exactly did she get from coming out with her story? Was she paid? No.

Well, Lisa Bloom was her attorney, so she could have been paid.
And, I am sure her health food business didn't suffer as a result of the publicity.

You can't just make stuff up about how she "could have been paid."

Proof, please. Or stop with the fantasies.

Oh, please. Are you the person who keeps claiming Ivana Trump was “paid” to recant her testimony? There is ZERO proof of that, yet you (or someone here) keeps announcing it like it’s fact. So take your own advice and stop with the fantasies when it’s convenient to further your narrative.
-DP

I don't see how you can even dispute this. No, Ivana wasn't "paid" to recant her testimony. But, Trump threatened to take away $25million from Ivana if she kept talking about the rape.

As described above (Day 2 of this thread), Ivana and Donnie's 1992 divorce settlement had, among other elements, (1) a gag clause on Ivana (only) that prohibited Ivana from talking about their marriage, and (2) a total of about $25 million for Ivana. During the trial, Ivana gave a sworn deposition that Trump raped her.

Also as described above, shortly after the divorce settlement, Ivana started to write a veiled novel about their marriage. Trump sued Ivana for violating the gag clause in the divorce agreement, and he argued that this invalidated the whole divorce agreement, including the $25 million for Ivana. So, Ivana would have lost the $25 million in the divorce settlement agreement. Trump pursued this all the way to the NY State Supreme Court.

And yes, I'll follow you through this thread and point out your lies as they materialize....

Anonymous wrote:It's really amazing how all of Trump's two dozen accusers are lying opportunists. But we must, we must believe Tara Reade!

Um, maybe you’re not aware but no one is saying we “must” believe anyone. But continuing to point out your hypocrisy (depending on who’s doing the accusing) is exhausting.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Yes, Boyne is the first accuser for whom it's basically she-said-he-said.

There are no decades-old sexual misconduct lawsuits, for example from 1993 (Ivana) or 1997 (Harth). There are no witnesses or friends the accuser confided in decades before Trump ran for president, unlike Leeds, Anderson, and Harth.

None of this means Boyne is lying, though. Also, it seems consistent with Trump's p--ssy-grabbing behavior.

Convenient that she came out with her story a week after the Access Hollywood tape was released.
Coincidental? Of course not.
She is an opportunist.

What exactly did she get from coming out with her story? Was she paid? No.

Well, Lisa Bloom was her attorney, so she could have been paid.
And, I am sure her health food business didn't suffer as a result of the publicity.

You can't just make stuff up about how she "could have been paid."

Proof, please. Or stop with the fantasies.

Oh, please. Are you the person who keeps claiming Ivana Trump was “paid” to recant her testimony? There is ZERO proof of that, yet you (or someone here) keeps announcing it like it’s fact. So take your own advice and stop with the fantasies when it’s convenient to further your narrative.
-DP

It's really amazing how all of Trump's two dozen accusers are lying opportunists. But we must, we must believe Tara Reade!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Yes, Boyne is the first accuser for whom it's basically she-said-he-said.

There are no decades-old sexual misconduct lawsuits, for example from 1993 (Ivana) or 1997 (Harth). There are no witnesses or friends the accuser confided in decades before Trump ran for president, unlike Leeds, Anderson, and Harth.

None of this means Boyne is lying, though. Also, it seems consistent with Trump's p--ssy-grabbing behavior.

Convenient that she came out with her story a week after the Access Hollywood tape was released.
Coincidental? Of course not.
She is an opportunist.

Proof please. This is the second time you’ve said that.

+1. Here's what Boyne herself said about the timing.

As for why she is coming forward now, Boyne said she experienced a “flashback” to that 1996 dinner when she saw a New York Times story in May detailing a number of disturbing stories of how Trump has interacted with women in private. When the 2005 recording of Trump boasting about sexual assault emerged last week, she felt compelled to share her story.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-models-skirts-underwear_n_57ffd172e4b0162c043ac07f

Amazing how all of Trump's two dozen accusers are lying opportunists. But we must, must believe Tara Reade!

She experienced a "flashback." Wow. That is real evidence right there.

So far, we are seeing that Biden's accuser has far more evidence than any of the women accusing Trump.

Reade has "far more evidence" than any of the women accusing Trump? Really?

Does Reade have a 25-year-old sexual misconduct suit against Trump, like Ivana's 1993 lawsuit or Harth's 1997 lawsuit? Both of which involved sworn depositions?

Does Reade have witnesses like Leeds, Anderson, and Harth do? Witnesses who support her without changing their stories or backing out of their earlier support? Reade's brother changed his story. Reade's neighbor originally supported Reade's claims but now seems to be backing away and says she's voting for Biden anyway.

Does Reade have a consistent story, one that's stayed constant over the years? In contrast, Leeds, Boyne, Anderson and Harth have all had unchanging stories, some of them (Leeds, Anderson and Harth) unwavering over decades. We did see that Ivana changed her tune immediately after Trump threatened to take $25 million away from her for violating the gag clause in their divorce settlement, but I think we can agree that's a little different.

I want some of what you're smoking!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Yes, Boyne is the first accuser for whom it's basically she-said-he-said.

There are no decades-old sexual misconduct lawsuits, for example from 1993 (Ivana) or 1997 (Harth). There are no witnesses or friends the accuser confided in decades before Trump ran for president, unlike Leeds, Anderson, and Harth.

None of this means Boyne is lying, though. Also, it seems consistent with Trump's p--ssy-grabbing behavior.

Convenient that she came out with her story a week after the Access Hollywood tape was released.
Coincidental? Of course not.
She is an opportunist.

Proof please. This is the second time you’ve said that.

+1. Here's what Boyne herself said about the timing.

As for why she is coming forward now, Boyne said she experienced a “flashback” to that 1996 dinner when she saw a New York Times story in May detailing a number of disturbing stories of how Trump has interacted with women in private. When the 2005 recording of Trump boasting about sexual assault emerged last week, she felt compelled to share her story.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-models-skirts-underwear_n_57ffd172e4b0162c043ac07f

Amazing how all of Trump's two dozen accusers are lying opportunists. But we must, must believe Tara Reade!

She experienced a "flashback." Wow. That is real evidence right there.

So far, we are seeing that Biden's accuser has far more evidence than any of the women accusing Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:More from Sonja Morgan, who was at the dinner with Boyne, Trump and Casablancas:

The reality show personality said the dinner was actually sometime in the early 1990s, after Trump's divorce from his first wife Ivana but before his marriage to Marla Maples in 1993.

She said she did not remember anything lewd from the future politician and that as a typical night on the town during the period, it probably involved dancing on tables.

"I'm sure we were. Everyone was dancing on tables," Morgan, 52, said, later adding "Nobody comes home and complains about anybody looking up their skirt, let alone Donald Trump."

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-looked-skirts-talked-models-genitals-report-article-1.2829721

So Morgan confirmed the dinner took place with Boyne, Trump, Casablancas and herself. She confirmed that she and others were dancing on the table. She didn't confirm (but she didn't deny) that Trump was lewd about the dancers' female parts.

Is it possible Morgan didn't hear Trump being lewd because... just a guess here... Morgan herself was up dancing on the table?

Or, Morgan isn't confirming (nor is she denying) the part about Trump being lewd because she's does business with Trump and went to his wedding with Marla Maples.

It could go either way.

Yes, but to me it sounds like a confirmation of the basic facts of Boyne’s story, and given that Donald bragged about forcing his way backstage at the Miss Universe pageant to ogle the teens’ naked bodies, it sounds CONPLETELY plausible.

I agree.

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Anonymous wrote:More from Sonja Morgan, who was at the dinner with Boyne, Trump and Casablancas:

The reality show personality said the dinner was actually sometime in the early 1990s, after Trump's divorce from his first wife Ivana but before his marriage to Marla Maples in 1993.

She said she did not remember anything lewd from the future politician and that as a typical night on the town during the period, it probably involved dancing on tables.

"I'm sure we were. Everyone was dancing on tables," Morgan, 52, said, later adding "Nobody comes home and complains about anybody looking up their skirt, let alone Donald Trump."

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-looked-skirts-talked-models-genitals-report-article-1.2829721

So Morgan confirmed the dinner took place with Boyne, Trump, Casablancas and herself. She confirmed that she and others were dancing on the table. She didn't confirm (but she didn't deny) that Trump was lewd about the dancers' female parts.

Is it possible Morgan didn't hear Trump being lewd because... just a guess here... Morgan herself was up dancing on the table?

Or, Morgan isn't confirming (nor is she denying) the part about Trump being lewd because she's does business with Trump and went to his wedding with Marla Maples.

It could go either way.

Yes, but to me it sounds like a confirmation of the basic facts of Boyne’s story, and given that Donald bragged about forcing his way backstage at the Miss Universe pageant to ogle the teens’ naked bodies, it sounds CONPLETELY plausible.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Yes, Boyne is the first accuser for whom it's basically she-said-he-said.

There are no decades-old sexual misconduct lawsuits, for example from 1993 (Ivana) or 1997 (Harth). There are no witnesses or friends the accuser confided in decades before Trump ran for president, unlike Leeds, Anderson, and Harth.

None of this means Boyne is lying, though. Also, it seems consistent with Trump's p--ssy-grabbing behavior.

Convenient that she came out with her story a week after the Access Hollywood tape was released.
Coincidental? Of course not.
She is an opportunist.

Proof please. This is the second time you’ve said that.

+1. Here's what Boyne herself said about the timing.

As for why she is coming forward now, Boyne said she experienced a “flashback” to that 1996 dinner when she saw a New York Times story in May detailing a number of disturbing stories of how Trump has interacted with women in private. When the 2005 recording of Trump boasting about sexual assault emerged last week, she felt compelled to share her story.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-models-skirts-underwear_n_57ffd172e4b0162c043ac07f

Amazing how all of Trump's two dozen accusers are lying opportunists. But we must, must believe Tara Reade!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Yes, Boyne is the first accuser for whom it's basically she-said-he-said.

There are no decades-old sexual misconduct lawsuits, for example from 1993 (Ivana) or 1997 (Harth). There are no witnesses or friends the accuser confided in decades before Trump ran for president, unlike Leeds, Anderson, and Harth.

None of this means Boyne is lying, though. Also, it seems consistent with Trump's p--ssy-grabbing behavior.

Convenient that she came out with her story a week after the Access Hollywood tape was released.
Coincidental? Of course not.
She is an opportunist.

What exactly did she get from coming out with her story? Was she paid? No.

Well, Lisa Bloom was her attorney, so she could have been paid.
And, I am sure her health food business didn't suffer as a result of the publicity.

You can't just make stuff up about how she "could have been paid."

Proof, please. Or stop with the fantasies.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Yes, Boyne is the first accuser for whom it's basically she-said-he-said.

There are no decades-old sexual misconduct lawsuits, for example from 1993 (Ivana) or 1997 (Harth). There are no witnesses or friends the accuser confided in decades before Trump ran for president, unlike Leeds, Anderson, and Harth.

None of this means Boyne is lying, though. Also, it seems consistent with Trump's p--ssy-grabbing behavior.

Convenient that she came out with her story a week after the Access Hollywood tape was released.
Coincidental? Of course not.
She is an opportunist.

Proof please. This is the second time you’ve said that.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Yes, Boyne is the first accuser for whom it's basically she-said-he-said.

There are no decades-old sexual misconduct lawsuits, for example from 1993 (Ivana) or 1997 (Harth). There are no witnesses or friends the accuser confided in decades before Trump ran for president, unlike Leeds, Anderson, and Harth.

None of this means Boyne is lying, though. Also, it seems consistent with Trump's p--ssy-grabbing behavior.

Convenient that she came out with her story a week after the Access Hollywood tape was released.
Coincidental? Of course not.
She is an opportunist.

What exactly did she get from coming out with her story? Was she paid? No.

Well, Lisa Bloom was her attorney, so she could have been paid.
And, I am sure her health food business didn't suffer as a result of the publicity.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Yes, Boyne is the first accuser for whom it's basically she-said-he-said.

There are no decades-old sexual misconduct lawsuits, for example from 1993 (Ivana) or 1997 (Harth). There are no witnesses or friends the accuser confided in decades before Trump ran for president, unlike Leeds, Anderson, and Harth.

None of this means Boyne is lying, though. Also, it seems consistent with Trump's p--ssy-grabbing behavior.

Convenient that she came out with her story a week after the Access Hollywood tape was released.
Coincidental? Of course not.
She is an opportunist.

What exactly did she get from coming out with her story? Was she paid? No.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Yes, Boyne is the first accuser for whom it's basically she-said-he-said.

There are no decades-old sexual misconduct lawsuits, for example from 1993 (Ivana) or 1997 (Harth). There are no witnesses or friends the accuser confided in decades before Trump ran for president, unlike Leeds, Anderson, and Harth.

None of this means Boyne is lying, though. Also, it seems consistent with Trump's p--ssy-grabbing behavior.

Convenient that she came out with her story a week after the Access Hollywood tape was released.
Coincidental? Of course not.
She is an opportunist.