Anonymous
Post 05/02/2020 13:33     Subject: Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
Anonymous wrote:I think they will re-open. Too costly not to. The models have been wrong or off so far and there’s no certainty there will even be a second wave. If there is, we will be better prepared. Not perfect but better.

The first wave won't even be over by the time the second wave starts. Now that states are reopening, things will get worse fairly quickly. Fall will be the third wave.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2020 12:31     Subject: Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
I think they will re-open. Too costly not to. The models have been wrong or off so far and there’s no certainty there will even be a second wave. If there is, we will be better prepared. Not perfect but better.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2020 11:51     Subject: Re:Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
I would be extremely surprised if states keep colleges closed. Most of the models predict a second wave in the fall, after it'll already be too late. If we got a second wave in late July maybe, but I'm trusting the medical experts on the timing prediction.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2020 10:26     Subject: Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
If their state governments allow them to reopen, then they will reopen, period. No college that is permitted to reopen its campus will keep it closed. The problem is that state governments are unlikely to give a lot of lead time on their decision. They may decide in August, sure you can open next week, but colleges need to plan further ahead than that.

Fingers crossed that state governments can decide by July. Everyone is waiting on data from studies that are only just getting underway.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2020 10:16     Subject: Re:Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm genuinely not sure why people are skeptical about colleges announcing they'll reopen. They'd take such a huge financial hit if they didn't it seems inevitable.


Perhaps because they will take an even bigger hit if they bring everyone back and then they have to shut again four weeks later .....


And students, faculty and staff being hospitalized, and possibly dying, is not a good look. Doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in families about the safety of the campus environment.


They have a greater risk of death and serious illness from suicide, alcohol, and drugs than they do from CV, but yet that doesn't stop them from opening to students year after year. Most every college will lose more students and faculty to every other cause of death than CV--some of them directly related to being a college campus. They make rational decisions based on calculated risk. That's why you are not running a university. You are not a rational person.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2020 10:09     Subject: Re:Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
Of course they're planning to be open. They are also planning in case they are not open. My son's school sent a survey to students and parents asking about online learning, how they like it, how they are doing with it, what level of in-person vs. online classes would be ideal, what balance between the two is acceptable without prompting withdrawing from the school, etc.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2020 09:26     Subject: Re:Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
If you use that hysterical standard, no "non-essential" business will ever open again.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2020 23:25     Subject: Re:Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm genuinely not sure why people are skeptical about colleges announcing they'll reopen. They'd take such a huge financial hit if they didn't it seems inevitable.


Perhaps because they will take an even bigger hit if they bring everyone back and then they have to shut again four weeks later .....


And students, faculty and staff being hospitalized, and possibly dying, is not a good look. Doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in families about the safety of the campus environment.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2020 23:20     Subject: Re:Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
Anonymous wrote:I'm genuinely not sure why people are skeptical about colleges announcing they'll reopen. They'd take such a huge financial hit if they didn't it seems inevitable.


Perhaps because they will take an even bigger hit if they bring everyone back and then they have to shut again four weeks later .....
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2020 22:06     Subject: Re:Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
I'm genuinely not sure why people are skeptical about colleges announcing they'll reopen. They'd take such a huge financial hit if they didn't it seems inevitable.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2020 21:55     Subject: Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm deciding that is what people do when they are nervous and have no control.


Which is fine - but to proclaim it as fact (my best friend's brother's ex girlfriend is a very part time adjunct professor that teaches one class a year at Stanford), and get the other people in a tailspin, is uncalled for.

We don't care what you heard, we care what the college's official statements say, and none of that is out yet, because most states haven't even opened up yet. A little logic, anyone?

What puzzles me is that people in this area absolutely pride themselves on having no EQ - yet they are the first to be out of control, nervous breakdown emotional about their "loss of control". My God, keep your head together, stop drinking all that chardonnay, and learn some healthy habits other than Instagramming. Act like an educated adult, for crying out loud - you are not your teenage daughter. Damn.
Quite a few colleges have announced now actually.

Literally dozens of colleges have announced that they’ll resume in person this fall. I know that’s probably very very disappointing to PP.


Yes, they are "planning" to "reopen". https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/04/30/what-does-intent-reopen-mean
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2020 20:00     Subject: Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm deciding that is what people do when they are nervous and have no control.


Which is fine - but to proclaim it as fact (my best friend's brother's ex girlfriend is a very part time adjunct professor that teaches one class a year at Stanford), and get the other people in a tailspin, is uncalled for.

We don't care what you heard, we care what the college's official statements say, and none of that is out yet, because most states haven't even opened up yet. A little logic, anyone?

What puzzles me is that people in this area absolutely pride themselves on having no EQ - yet they are the first to be out of control, nervous breakdown emotional about their "loss of control". My God, keep your head together, stop drinking all that chardonnay, and learn some healthy habits other than Instagramming. Act like an educated adult, for crying out loud - you are not your teenage daughter. Damn.
Quite a few colleges have announced now actually.

Literally dozens of colleges have announced that they’ll resume in person this fall. I know that’s probably very very disappointing to PP.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2020 17:51     Subject: Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm deciding that is what people do when they are nervous and have no control.


Which is fine - but to proclaim it as fact (my best friend's brother's ex girlfriend is a very part time adjunct professor that teaches one class a year at Stanford), and get the other people in a tailspin, is uncalled for.

We don't care what you heard, we care what the college's official statements say, and none of that is out yet, because most states haven't even opened up yet. A little logic, anyone?

What puzzles me is that people in this area absolutely pride themselves on having no EQ - yet they are the first to be out of control, nervous breakdown emotional about their "loss of control". My God, keep your head together, stop drinking all that chardonnay, and learn some healthy habits other than Instagramming. Act like an educated adult, for crying out loud - you are not your teenage daughter. Damn.
Quite a few colleges have announced now actually.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2020 16:42     Subject: Re:Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
Anonymous wrote:I just don't see how dormitories can be open. Look at where the large outbreaks are happening - cruise/Navy ships, prisons, factories. Large numbers of people in a confined space. The virus will spread like wildfire and will trigger large outbreaks in small college towns/cities, many of which aren't equipped for many hospitalized patients.


Didn't the podcast say "every dorm will become a quarantine dorm" ?
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2020 14:43     Subject: Re:Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
I just don't see how dormitories can be open. Look at where the large outbreaks are happening - cruise/Navy ships, prisons, factories. Large numbers of people in a confined space. The virus will spread like wildfire and will trigger large outbreaks in small college towns/cities, many of which aren't equipped for many hospitalized patients.