Anonymous
04/22/2020 13:33
Subject: Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most of the DA boys aren't actually Arlington kids anyways, are they?
LOL so they play for Arlington but are not Arlington? Wow! I bet you do not talk to those kids and parents. Youth soccer! So how many years must you live in Arlington and play on an Arlington team to be considered an Arlington kid? Guess you should forfeit all the wins?
I think the poster was making a point about residence, that's all. Most boys DA players are from outside Arlington, which you'd actually expect for a DA. Doesn't mean they won't stay, and doesn't mean Arlington residents already playing in Arlington DA arent good. This is true for almost all the DAs - Bethesda draws a ton of players from outside Bethesda. Why so touchy about this?
To illustrate, out of 21 players on U14 Arlington former DA team only 4 reside in Arlington. http://asas.ussoccerda.com/sam/teams/index.php?team=12062740 Several players live in Maryland and DC. With Arlington losing DA badge, don't be surprised if these players start looking at other options.
Anonymous
04/22/2020 13:16
Subject: Re:Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think on the boys side Mclean and Bryc clubs don't want Arlington in the ECNL so they can pick up all of the talent. Their would be more than a few parents feeling shocked at Mclean and Bryc when their kids are sent out the door in favor of former Arlington DA kids.
I assume this is for very young teams? The older teams at Arlington are not as strong already as the teams in ECNL boys. VDA, BRYC, McLean or Loudoun.
Very young? Let's just look at ECNL age and then U12 (which these clubs denominate as pre-ECNL). Here are the local VA teams that are ranked higher than the highest ranked VA ECNL boys teams:
U12: Alexandria
U13: Arlington DA, SYC, Alexandria, Sterling, Great Falls Reston
U14: Alexandria, Herndon, Arlington, DA, Doradus, Arlington Red
U15: Alexandria, Arlington DA, SYC
U16: Arlington DA
So yes, if I am in the ECNL, and want to play the best in each age group, looks like there are a number of other clubs above the best VA ECNL teams
You got trolled.
Take one more
"U16: Arlington DA"
Only Arlington family calls U16 team as DA team, everyone else knows that there is no DA for U16 at Arlington.
LOL.
I think people call the U16 team the DA team because
- it is coached by the DA coaching group
- it is basically the same group of boys that played DA at U15 and would have gone on to play DA at U17 (and an entirely different group of kids from the red travel team)
- in the U16 year it plays all the other U16 teams of the DA clubs in a separate "DA only" division of the EDP.
So to all intents and purposes it was a DA team.
I don't think this is somethig unique to Arlington. Other DA clubs call their U16 teams DA teams too.
Anonymous
04/22/2020 12:59
Subject: Re:Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think on the boys side Mclean and Bryc clubs don't want Arlington in the ECNL so they can pick up all of the talent. Their would be more than a few parents feeling shocked at Mclean and Bryc when their kids are sent out the door in favor of former Arlington DA kids.
I assume this is for very young teams? The older teams at Arlington are not as strong already as the teams in ECNL boys. VDA, BRYC, McLean or Loudoun.
Very young? Let's just look at ECNL age and then U12 (which these clubs denominate as pre-ECNL). Here are the local VA teams that are ranked higher than the highest ranked VA ECNL boys teams:
U12: Alexandria
U13: Arlington DA, SYC, Alexandria, Sterling, Great Falls Reston
U14: Alexandria, Herndon, Arlington, DA, Doradus, Arlington Red
U15: Alexandria, Arlington DA, SYC
U16: Arlington DA
So yes, if I am in the ECNL, and want to play the best in each age group, looks like there are a number of other clubs above the best VA ECNL teams
You got trolled.
Take one more
"U16: Arlington DA"
Only Arlington family calls U16 team as DA team, everyone else knows that there is no DA for U16 at Arlington.
LOL.
Trolling again
Anonymous
04/22/2020 12:50
Subject: Re:Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think on the boys side Mclean and Bryc clubs don't want Arlington in the ECNL so they can pick up all of the talent. Their would be more than a few parents feeling shocked at Mclean and Bryc when their kids are sent out the door in favor of former Arlington DA kids.
I assume this is for very young teams? The older teams at Arlington are not as strong already as the teams in ECNL boys. VDA, BRYC, McLean or Loudoun.
Very young? Let's just look at ECNL age and then U12 (which these clubs denominate as pre-ECNL). Here are the local VA teams that are ranked higher than the highest ranked VA ECNL boys teams:
U12: Alexandria
U13: Arlington DA, SYC, Alexandria, Sterling, Great Falls Reston
U14: Alexandria, Herndon, Arlington, DA, Doradus, Arlington Red
U15: Alexandria, Arlington DA, SYC
U16: Arlington DA
So yes, if I am in the ECNL, and want to play the best in each age group, looks like there are a number of other clubs above the best VA ECNL teams
You got trolled.
Take one more
"U16: Arlington DA"
Only Arlington family calls U16 team as DA team, everyone else knows that there is no DA for U16 at Arlington.
LOL.
Haven’t we already discussed how meaningless these rankings are... Whatever math is used behind the scenes, it does not take in strength of competition. So if a team is cleaning up in a weak league they rank higher. It is no different than the gotsoccer silliness.
It's not gotsoccer - it's youthsoccr -- and it's more objective than blanket statements like "All older ECNL boys teams are better than Arlington." It's a reality check It does take into account strength of competition - what you said is completely false. Strength of competition is infinitely more important than win-loss record in their rankings. Can we just stop flat out lies like this?
W H O C A R E S.
None of this matters. It wont change a thing. Get over it. Deals are done. I am an ASA parent DA parent. And I pretty much know that they are not getting a slot on ECNL considering nothing has been announced. And, I am pretty sure we are not getting MLS either. Time for everyone to just move on and do what you feel is best for your kid. None of the teams listed above will be together or the same when the game starts again. The kids are going to be swapping teams all over the place. Sheesh....
You can let others decide, but bullsh$t is bullsh$t and I call it out when I see it. I am sorry you don't. It may explain a lot.
Anonymous
04/22/2020 12:28
Subject: Re:Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think on the boys side Mclean and Bryc clubs don't want Arlington in the ECNL so they can pick up all of the talent. Their would be more than a few parents feeling shocked at Mclean and Bryc when their kids are sent out the door in favor of former Arlington DA kids.
I assume this is for very young teams? The older teams at Arlington are not as strong already as the teams in ECNL boys. VDA, BRYC, McLean or Loudoun.
Very young? Let's just look at ECNL age and then U12 (which these clubs denominate as pre-ECNL). Here are the local VA teams that are ranked higher than the highest ranked VA ECNL boys teams:
U12: Alexandria
U13: Arlington DA, SYC, Alexandria, Sterling, Great Falls Reston
U14: Alexandria, Herndon, Arlington, DA, Doradus, Arlington Red
U15: Alexandria, Arlington DA, SYC
U16: Arlington DA
So yes, if I am in the ECNL, and want to play the best in each age group, looks like there are a number of other clubs above the best VA ECNL teams
You got trolled.
Take one more
"U16: Arlington DA"
Only Arlington family calls U16 team as DA team, everyone else knows that there is no DA for U16 at Arlington.
LOL.
Haven’t we already discussed how meaningless these rankings are... Whatever math is used behind the scenes, it does not take in strength of competition. So if a team is cleaning up in a weak league they rank higher. It is no different than the gotsoccer silliness.
It's not gotsoccer - it's youthsoccr -- and it's more objective than blanket statements like "All older ECNL boys teams are better than Arlington." It's a reality check It does take into account strength of competition - what you said is completely false. Strength of competition is infinitely more important than win-loss record in their rankings. Can we just stop flat out lies like this?
W H O C A R E S.
None of this matters. It wont change a thing. Get over it. Deals are done. I am an ASA parent DA parent. And I pretty much know that they are not getting a slot on ECNL considering nothing has been announced. And, I am pretty sure we are not getting MLS either. Time for everyone to just move on and do what you feel is best for your kid. None of the teams listed above will be together or the same when the game starts again. The kids are going to be swapping teams all over the place. Sheesh....
Anonymous
04/22/2020 12:08
Subject: Re:Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think on the boys side Mclean and Bryc clubs don't want Arlington in the ECNL so they can pick up all of the talent. Their would be more than a few parents feeling shocked at Mclean and Bryc when their kids are sent out the door in favor of former Arlington DA kids.
I assume this is for very young teams? The older teams at Arlington are not as strong already as the teams in ECNL boys. VDA, BRYC, McLean or Loudoun.
Very young? Let's just look at ECNL age and then U12 (which these clubs denominate as pre-ECNL). Here are the local VA teams that are ranked higher than the highest ranked VA ECNL boys teams:
U12: Alexandria
U13: Arlington DA, SYC, Alexandria, Sterling, Great Falls Reston
U14: Alexandria, Herndon, Arlington, DA, Doradus, Arlington Red
U15: Alexandria, Arlington DA, SYC
U16: Arlington DA
So yes, if I am in the ECNL, and want to play the best in each age group, looks like there are a number of other clubs above the best VA ECNL teams
You got trolled.
Take one more
"U16: Arlington DA"
Only Arlington family calls U16 team as DA team, everyone else knows that there is no DA for U16 at Arlington.
LOL.
Haven’t we already discussed how meaningless these rankings are... Whatever math is used behind the scenes, it does not take in strength of competition. So if a team is cleaning up in a weak league they rank higher. It is no different than the gotsoccer silliness.
It's not gotsoccer - it's youthsoccr -- and it's more objective than blanket statements like "All older ECNL boys teams are better than Arlington." It's a reality check It does take into account strength of competition - what you said is completely false. Strength of competition is infinitely more important than win-loss record in their rankings. Can we just stop flat out lies like this?
Anonymous
04/22/2020 11:44
Subject: Re:Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think on the boys side Mclean and Bryc clubs don't want Arlington in the ECNL so they can pick up all of the talent. Their would be more than a few parents feeling shocked at Mclean and Bryc when their kids are sent out the door in favor of former Arlington DA kids.
I assume this is for very young teams? The older teams at Arlington are not as strong already as the teams in ECNL boys. VDA, BRYC, McLean or Loudoun.
Very young? Let's just look at ECNL age and then U12 (which these clubs denominate as pre-ECNL). Here are the local VA teams that are ranked higher than the highest ranked VA ECNL boys teams:
U12: Alexandria
U13: Arlington DA, SYC, Alexandria, Sterling, Great Falls Reston
U14: Alexandria, Herndon, Arlington, DA, Doradus, Arlington Red
U15: Alexandria, Arlington DA, SYC
U16: Arlington DA
So yes, if I am in the ECNL, and want to play the best in each age group, looks like there are a number of other clubs above the best VA ECNL teams
You got trolled.
Take one more
"U16: Arlington DA"
Only Arlington family calls U16 team as DA team, everyone else knows that there is no DA for U16 at Arlington.
LOL.
Haven’t we already discussed how meaningless these rankings are... Whatever math is used behind the scenes, it does not take in strength of competition. So if a team is cleaning up in a weak league they rank higher. It is no different than the gotsoccer silliness.
Anonymous
04/22/2020 11:36
Subject: Re:Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think on the boys side Mclean and Bryc clubs don't want Arlington in the ECNL so they can pick up all of the talent. Their would be more than a few parents feeling shocked at Mclean and Bryc when their kids are sent out the door in favor of former Arlington DA kids.
I assume this is for very young teams? The older teams at Arlington are not as strong already as the teams in ECNL boys. VDA, BRYC, McLean or Loudoun.
Very young? Let's just look at ECNL age and then U12 (which these clubs denominate as pre-ECNL). Here are the local VA teams that are ranked higher than the highest ranked VA ECNL boys teams:
U12: Alexandria
U13: Arlington DA, SYC, Alexandria, Sterling, Great Falls Reston
U14: Alexandria, Herndon, Arlington, DA, Doradus, Arlington Red
U15: Alexandria, Arlington DA, SYC
U16: Arlington DA
So yes, if I am in the ECNL, and want to play the best in each age group, looks like there are a number of other clubs above the best VA ECNL teams
You got trolled.
Take one more
"U16: Arlington DA"
Only Arlington family calls U16 team as DA team, everyone else knows that there is no DA for U16 at Arlington.
LOL.
Anonymous
04/22/2020 11:17
Subject: Re:Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think on the boys side Mclean and Bryc clubs don't want Arlington in the ECNL so they can pick up all of the talent. Their would be more than a few parents feeling shocked at Mclean and Bryc when their kids are sent out the door in favor of former Arlington DA kids.
I assume this is for very young teams? The older teams at Arlington are not as strong already as the teams in ECNL boys. VDA, BRYC, McLean or Loudoun.
Very young? Let's just look at ECNL age and then U12 (which these clubs denominate as pre-ECNL). Here are the local VA teams that are ranked higher than the highest ranked VA ECNL boys teams:
U12: Alexandria
U13: Arlington DA, SYC, Alexandria, Sterling, Great Falls Reston
U14: Alexandria, Herndon, Arlington, DA, Doradus, Arlington Red
U15: Alexandria, Arlington DA, SYC
U16: Arlington DA
So yes, if I am in the ECNL, and want to play the best in each age group, looks like there are a number of other clubs above the best VA ECNL teams
You got trolled.
Anonymous
04/22/2020 10:55
Subject: Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most of the DA boys aren't actually Arlington kids anyways, are they?
LOL so they play for Arlington but are not Arlington? Wow! I bet you do not talk to those kids and parents. Youth soccer! So how many years must you live in Arlington and play on an Arlington team to be considered an Arlington kid? Guess you should forfeit all the wins?
I think the poster was making a point about residence, that's all. Most boys DA players are from outside Arlington, which you'd actually expect for a DA. Doesn't mean they won't stay, and doesn't mean Arlington residents already playing in Arlington DA arent good. This is true for almost all the DAs - Bethesda draws a ton of players from outside Bethesda. Why so touchy about this?
Anonymous
04/22/2020 10:43
Subject: Re:Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think on the boys side Mclean and Bryc clubs don't want Arlington in the ECNL so they can pick up all of the talent. Their would be more than a few parents feeling shocked at Mclean and Bryc when their kids are sent out the door in favor of former Arlington DA kids.
I assume this is for very young teams? The older teams at Arlington are not as strong already as the teams in ECNL boys. VDA, BRYC, McLean or Loudoun.
Very young? Let's just look at ECNL age and then U12 (which these clubs denominate as pre-ECNL). Here are the local VA teams that are ranked higher than the highest ranked VA ECNL boys teams:
U12: Alexandria
U13: Arlington DA, SYC, Alexandria, Sterling, Great Falls Reston
U14: Alexandria, Herndon, Arlington, DA, Doradus, Arlington Red
U15: Alexandria, Arlington DA, SYC
U16: Arlington DA
So yes, if I am in the ECNL, and want to play the best in each age group, looks like there are a number of other clubs above the best VA ECNL teams
Anonymous
04/22/2020 10:34
Subject: Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Most of the DA boys aren't actually Arlington kids anyways, are they?
LOL so they play for Arlington but are not Arlington? Wow! I bet you do not talk to those kids and parents. Youth soccer! So how many years must you live in Arlington and play on an Arlington team to be considered an Arlington kid? Guess you should forfeit all the wins?
Anonymous
04/22/2020 10:31
Subject: Any word from Arlington?
If we want to have a glorified CCL league, then this makes sense I guess.
Anonymous
04/22/2020 10:29
Subject: Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Both Arlington and FCV will be able to join, it is all about timing.
The local clubs are not a problem, I do not think MYS or BRYC would be able to block ( they probably want to for sure). Look the club density of of west coast, there is no problem to add 2 more.
The situation is If Arlington boys do not join ecnl, girls have to wait to the next year.
FCV burned the bridge, they have to work hard to repair it.
My Question is, why any club would not want to all in a league/system?
You have to believe in a product before you sell it, does Arlington believe MLS 2 age groups league would work for the local soccer sheep families?
The density of the west coast is supplemented, due to the density of the west coast. Much bigger population.
No it’s about household income levels. You have to have money and free time to be in the ECNL. There is more than enough money in this area to support additional teams. The talk about watered down talent if you add too many team is idiotic. It’s just the talk of loser clubs. The league will expanded because of the demand. This means more money and more people thinking your league is the only option for college soccer.
Anonymous
04/22/2020 10:07
Subject: Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most of the DA boys aren't actually Arlington kids anyways, are they?
*ex-DA
Point taken but you are wrong, there is no current DA so ex-DA is a wrong logic. You could emphasis your point saying DA (demised). And no need be so upset with demised DA even it did not take your child, there were better kids, remember? Or you were messed up by joining DA then now have to figure out the whole thing for your DD again, you made decision, be responsible.