Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This ain't China. Not yet, anyways.

If it were, we’d be testing.

Really?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the discussion should be reframed a little bit to place the focus on pushy employers who will take advantage of Trump’s “open up” bullying. If employers order employees back to the office, then those employees can’t be blamed. But employees in the pvt sector have certain rights relating to join together to protest unacceptable working conditions.

Everyone should wear their face coverups like DC mayor said to, and keep your distance!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the discussion should be reframed a little bit to place the focus on pushy employers who will take advantage of Trump’s “open up” bullying. If employers order employees back to the office, then those employees can’t be blamed. But employees in the pvt sector have certain rights relating to join together to protest unacceptable working conditions.

Everyone should wear their face coverups like DC mayor said to, and keep your distance!

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Drs. Fauci and Birx are indeed experts to be trusted, are we to assume, then, that the administration's phased reopening plan, with the ball in states' court, with federal assistance as appropriate, has no basis in rational thought? Or are we assuming that they have become beholden to Trump and are merely doing the best they can in tough circumstances, due to Trump's egomania and other faults? If the latter, shouldn't they resign? I'm just trying to separate out the political from the rest of it, and I hope that folks are not letting their political preferences drive their opinions.

I think that both Fauci and Brix, but Brix more so, are making compromises for what they believe to be the greater good. Trump's "plan" is hardly a plan at all. It is a series of high-level guidelines. More importantly, it is not at all clear that Trump even wants to adhere to the guidelines given his tweets today about "liberating" states. What was presented yesterday overlooks or ignores much of what is needed to successfully re-open. It appears designed to allow Trump to take credit if states reopen successfully and blame the governors if things go bad.

Any chance this is why you are frustrated?

I'm not frustrated. I work at home normally, as does my wife. The kids' schools have already cancelled in-person classes for the rest of the school year. So my family will practice social distancing regardless of what Trump does. I just don't want to see people forced to put their health on the line for Trump's political fortunes or the stock portfolios of the wealthy. I strongly support those who believe that it is safe to open to lead the way.

omg

no one is forcing anyone to not social distance or not wear masks

there are choices in this country. People need to take responsibility for their own actions

Anonymous wrote:I think the discussion should be reframed a little bit to place the focus on pushy employers who will take advantage of Trump’s “open up” bullying. If employers order employees back to the office, then those employees can’t be blamed. But employees in the pvt sector have certain rights relating to join together to protest unacceptable working conditions.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This ain't China. Not yet, anyways.

If it were, we’d be testing.

Anonymous wrote:Speak for yourself, 22:30.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Drs. Fauci and Birx are indeed experts to be trusted, are we to assume, then, that the administration's phased reopening plan, with the ball in states' court, with federal assistance as appropriate, has no basis in rational thought? Or are we assuming that they have become beholden to Trump and are merely doing the best they can in tough circumstances, due to Trump's egomania and other faults? If the latter, shouldn't they resign? I'm just trying to separate out the political from the rest of it, and I hope that folks are not letting their political preferences drive their opinions.

I think that both Fauci and Brix, but Brix more so, are making compromises for what they believe to be the greater good. Trump's "plan" is hardly a plan at all. It is a series of high-level guidelines. More importantly, it is not at all clear that Trump even wants to adhere to the guidelines given his tweets today about "liberating" states. What was presented yesterday overlooks or ignores much of what is needed to successfully re-open. It appears designed to allow Trump to take credit if states reopen successfully and blame the governors if things go bad.

Any chance this is why you are frustrated?

I'm not frustrated. I work at home normally, as does my wife. The kids' schools have already cancelled in-person classes for the rest of the school year. So my family will practice social distancing regardless of what Trump does. I just don't want to see people forced to put their health on the line for Trump's political fortunes or the stock portfolios of the wealthy. I strongly support those who believe that it is safe to open to lead the way.

omg

no one is forcing anyone to not social distance or not wear masks

there are choices in this country. People need to take responsibility for their own actions

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Drs. Fauci and Birx are indeed experts to be trusted, are we to assume, then, that the administration's phased reopening plan, with the ball in states' court, with federal assistance as appropriate, has no basis in rational thought? Or are we assuming that they have become beholden to Trump and are merely doing the best they can in tough circumstances, due to Trump's egomania and other faults? If the latter, shouldn't they resign? I'm just trying to separate out the political from the rest of it, and I hope that folks are not letting their political preferences drive their opinions.

I think that both Fauci and Brix, but Brix more so, are making compromises for what they believe to be the greater good. Trump's "plan" is hardly a plan at all. It is a series of high-level guidelines. More importantly, it is not at all clear that Trump even wants to adhere to the guidelines given his tweets today about "liberating" states. What was presented yesterday overlooks or ignores much of what is needed to successfully re-open. It appears designed to allow Trump to take credit if states reopen successfully and blame the governors if things go bad.

Any chance this is why you are frustrated?

I'm not frustrated. I work at home normally, as does my wife. The kids' schools have already cancelled in-person classes for the rest of the school year. So my family will practice social distancing regardless of what Trump does. I just don't want to see people forced to put their health on the line for Trump's political fortunes or the stock portfolios of the wealthy. I strongly support those who believe that it is safe to open to lead the way.

omg

no one is forcing anyone to not social distance or not wear masks

there are choices in this country. People need to take responsibility for their own actions

Anonymous wrote:Guys. Watch Contagion. It’s scary as F. We don’t want to go there. Patience.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Drs. Fauci and Birx are indeed experts to be trusted, are we to assume, then, that the administration's phased reopening plan, with the ball in states' court, with federal assistance as appropriate, has no basis in rational thought? Or are we assuming that they have become beholden to Trump and are merely doing the best they can in tough circumstances, due to Trump's egomania and other faults? If the latter, shouldn't they resign? I'm just trying to separate out the political from the rest of it, and I hope that folks are not letting their political preferences drive their opinions.

I think that both Fauci and Brix, but Brix more so, are making compromises for what they believe to be the greater good. Trump's "plan" is hardly a plan at all. It is a series of high-level guidelines. More importantly, it is not at all clear that Trump even wants to adhere to the guidelines given his tweets today about "liberating" states. What was presented yesterday overlooks or ignores much of what is needed to successfully re-open. It appears designed to allow Trump to take credit if states reopen successfully and blame the governors if things go bad.

Any chance this is why you are frustrated?

I'm not frustrated. I work at home normally, as does my wife. The kids' schools have already cancelled in-person classes for the rest of the school year. So my family will practice social distancing regardless of what Trump does. I just don't want to see people forced to put their health on the line for Trump's political fortunes or the stock portfolios of the wealthy. I strongly support those who believe that it is safe to open to lead the way.