Anonymous
04/16/2020 15:09
Subject: Re:Post-DA future - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone really think there will be soccer games being played this autumn? I think it’s much more likely that we’re looking at early 2021 as the first time any of these girls get back on a field, in time for the Virginia HS season. And that’s well after the ECNL mid-Atlantic season is over.
I agree with Spring. Universities are already talking about not having students return until 2021 and public school systems are prepearing for that as well.
There is talk that a vaccine for health care workers and first responders might possibly be ready in the Fall, but they will not have one for the general population until 2021 (if things go as planned).
If school remain closed, it's doubtful sports will continue. Even college sports (big $ generators) will not be happening this Fall.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 15:08
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of DA kids who will not make ECNL teams becasue not all DA players are what they seem to be.
This is where the parents will start berating coaches and spreading bad rumors about clubs because their superstar kid doesn't make it.
Chemistry on a team is vital to the success of a team, even if the DA kids are better, many coaches will not mess with the chemistry.
Amen. Also stands to reason that of the DA players that might compete to get on an ECNL team, it might not be the ones those parents think -- per PP comment, there are a lot of "top" players who aren't top -- they are just favorites and do get better through being given the opportunity. Maybe fresh eyes benefits the ones who weren't given those chances, and don't have prima donna complexes but just want to be a solid part of a good team.
In this area, DA doesn't equal "top" players for many of the teams due to dillusion. Some teams/some age groups.some players sure, but just because they are on a DA doesn't automatically mean they are elite (and same can be said for the ECNL teams). Too many "top" teams, so the consolidation is what this area desperately needed....
Take the top 6 players at FCV and plug them with any of the Top 6 players within the ECNL and you have one powerful team. Except at BRYC any team younger then that 03 team is awful!
Anonymous
04/16/2020 14:55
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of DA kids who will not make ECNL teams becasue not all DA players are what they seem to be.
This is where the parents will start berating coaches and spreading bad rumors about clubs because their superstar kid doesn't make it.
Chemistry on a team is vital to the success of a team, even if the DA kids are better, many coaches will not mess with the chemistry.
Amen. Also stands to reason that of the DA players that might compete to get on an ECNL team, it might not be the ones those parents think -- per PP comment, there are a lot of "top" players who aren't top -- they are just favorites and do get better through being given the opportunity. Maybe fresh eyes benefits the ones who weren't given those chances, and don't have prima donna complexes but just want to be a solid part of a good team.
In this area, DA doesn't equal "top" players for many of the teams due to dillusion. Some teams/some age groups.some players sure, but just because they are on a DA doesn't automatically mean they are elite (and same can be said for the ECNL teams). Too many "top" teams, so the consolidation is what this area desperately needed....
Anonymous
04/16/2020 14:48
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of DA kids who will not make ECNL teams becasue not all DA players are what they seem to be.
This is where the parents will start berating coaches and spreading bad rumors about clubs because their superstar kid doesn't make it.
Chemistry on a team is vital to the success of a team, even if the DA kids are better, many coaches will not mess with the chemistry.
Amen. Also stands to reason that of the DA players that might compete to get on an ECNL team, it might not be the ones those parents think -- per PP comment, there are a lot of "top" players who aren't top -- they are just favorites and do get better through being given the opportunity. Maybe fresh eyes benefits the ones who weren't given those chances, and don't have prima donna complexes but just want to be a solid part of a good team.
Lol on my DD team there is almost no chemistry currently. Top players can almost always fit in like a glove no matter where they go.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 14:48
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Anyone know what the other girls Atlantic DA teams are planning for next year? Cedar Stars, Penn Fusion, Baltimore Armour, PA Classic? Anyone know?
Anonymous
04/16/2020 14:43
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ECNL spots will go to the players the coach in that age group knows. This is a nightmare
There are plenty of DA players who some ECNL coaches don't know. Especially given geography -- e.g., BRYC may never have seen some of the FCV players, or not since they were U-little which is not relevant. If those players show up and immediately stand out, they'll get a chance even without prior knowledge, and could displace another different DA player that coach thought she/he wanted. the question is when and where do they show up.
Bottom line, let your kid know she will have to fight for her slot on the team she is currently at. Honestly! My kid is excited for the opportunity for some of the top players to shift to her team potentially. She has been playing against them for years and knows them very well. As she is very competitive she wants the most competitive team. Hopefully we will get some coming to our club.
Is she a starter? That’s what you have to ask yourself.
Yes....
Again this is elite soccer, if your scared of someone better taking your child’s spot then it is possible that she isn’t that “elite” I don’t mean to come of like a jerk so sorry if I am, I just know that my kid wants to be with kids that push her so that she is ready for that next step, college. Do you think she will just be given a starting slot because she was loyal to her club that she’s currently on or that she was a starter at the club. Absolutely not, she needs to work for that spot. Bottom line is this, if she can’t fight for her slot now against kids around this area don’t even think about sending her to a D1 college, unfortunately she’ll never set foot on the field.
LOL elite at 13-15 years old? No it’s middle school and high school soccer. I am so tired of the “water down” competition argument- need for elite teams. This is just for the parents. These kids change a lot from middle school to high school. There is too much emphasis put on winning at these ages. For what? A u15 ranking on a website? Have you looked at how many girls go on to play at an elite college program for these “elite” teams....not many. Most will never play college soccer.
The folding of DA just limits the opportunities for girls going forward. Seriously I have seen so many “elite” u13/u14 players disappear by u16. I also have seen bench players at u12 or 2nd team girl who switch teams and really take off. Coaches who like this or that player even though the player is weak. This just puts more power into a hands of a few coaches, limits opportunities for girls and feed ego of the parents. Elite soccer is about the top 2-4 players on the team. That is all the coaches and club care about. You will learn this over the next year or so. Yes I have gone through this twice with two different kids.
FCV and Wash Spirit/MU placed 98-100% of their graduating kids in college soccer? Which "elite" option were you talking about where many don't go on to play in college?[/quote
Above commentator is a parent who’s child is middle of the pact who currently is starting but now might be benched and is scared at the prospect of them not having a home once the top DA top five go with the top ECNL five to make one hell of a team leaving the bottom 8-10 kids hoping they can break the starting lineup. It is a scary thought, but what does everyone think happens in College? I also have seen where it absolutely does matter when talking about the caliber of talent that’s around you in sports it pushes you to do better. If kids don’t have to work for their spot it makes them lazy and there is no urgency to be better to really unlock all that they could be. At the younger level it is almost better to be bottom of the pack, it teaches drive and determination.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 14:13
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ECNL spots will go to the players the coach in that age group knows. This is a nightmare
There are plenty of DA players who some ECNL coaches don't know. Especially given geography -- e.g., BRYC may never have seen some of the FCV players, or not since they were U-little which is not relevant. If those players show up and immediately stand out, they'll get a chance even without prior knowledge, and could displace another different DA player that coach thought she/he wanted. the question is when and where do they show up.
Bottom line, let your kid know she will have to fight for her slot on the team she is currently at. Honestly! My kid is excited for the opportunity for some of the top players to shift to her team potentially. She has been playing against them for years and knows them very well. As she is very competitive she wants the most competitive team. Hopefully we will get some coming to our club.
Is she a starter? That’s what you have to ask yourself.
Yes....
Again this is elite soccer, if your scared of someone better taking your child’s spot then it is possible that she isn’t that “elite” I don’t mean to come of like a jerk so sorry if I am, I just know that my kid wants to be with kids that push her so that she is ready for that next step, college. Do you think she will just be given a starting slot because she was loyal to her club that she’s currently on or that she was a starter at the club. Absolutely not, she needs to work for that spot. Bottom line is this, if she can’t fight for her slot now against kids around this area don’t even think about sending her to a D1 college, unfortunately she’ll never set foot on the field.
LOL elite at 13-15 years old? No it’s middle school and high school soccer. I am so tired of the “water down” competition argument- need for elite teams. This is just for the parents. These kids change a lot from middle school to high school. There is too much emphasis put on winning at these ages. For what? A u15 ranking on a website? Have you looked at how many girls go on to play at an elite college program for these “elite” teams....not many. Most will never play college soccer.
The folding of DA just limits the opportunities for girls going forward. Seriously I have seen so many “elite” u13/u14 players disappear by u16. I also have seen bench players at u12 or 2nd team girl who switch teams and really take off. Coaches who like this or that player even though the player is weak. This just puts more power into a hands of a few coaches, limits opportunities for girls and feed ego of the parents. Elite soccer is about the top 2-4 players on the team. That is all the coaches and club care about. You will learn this over the next year or so. Yes I have gone through this twice with two different kids.
FCV and Wash Spirit/MU placed 98-100% of their graduating kids in college soccer? Which "elite" option were you talking about where many don't go on to play in college?
Anonymous
04/16/2020 14:01
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of DA kids who will not make ECNL teams becasue not all DA players are what they seem to be.
This is where the parents will start berating coaches and spreading bad rumors about clubs because their superstar kid doesn't make it.
Chemistry on a team is vital to the success of a team, even if the DA kids are better, many coaches will not mess with the chemistry.
Amen. Also stands to reason that of the DA players that might compete to get on an ECNL team, it might not be the ones those parents think -- per PP comment, there are a lot of "top" players who aren't top -- they are just favorites and do get better through being given the opportunity. Maybe fresh eyes benefits the ones who weren't given those chances, and don't have prima donna complexes but just want to be a solid part of a good team.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 13:59
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
There are plenty of DA kids who will not make ECNL teams becasue not all DA players are what they seem to be.
This is where the parents will start berating coaches and spreading bad rumors about clubs because their superstar kid doesn't make it.
Chemistry on a team is vital to the success of a team, even if the DA kids are better, many coaches will not mess with the chemistry.
This is where the parents will start berating coaches and spreading bad rumors about clubs because their superstar kid doesn't make it.
Chemistry on a team is vital to the success of a team, even if the DA kids are better, many coaches will not mess with the chemistry.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 13:54
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
I agree with this. What happens to these DA clubs? I also hate the nastiness this is promoting between ECNL families wanting to protect their turf and the DA people.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 13:49
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ECNL spots will go to the players the coach in that age group knows. This is a nightmare
There are plenty of DA players who some ECNL coaches don't know. Especially given geography -- e.g., BRYC may never have seen some of the FCV players, or not since they were U-little which is not relevant. If those players show up and immediately stand out, they'll get a chance even without prior knowledge, and could displace another different DA player that coach thought she/he wanted. the question is when and where do they show up.
Bottom line, let your kid know she will have to fight for her slot on the team she is currently at. Honestly! My kid is excited for the opportunity for some of the top players to shift to her team potentially. She has been playing against them for years and knows them very well. As she is very competitive she wants the most competitive team. Hopefully we will get some coming to our club.
Is she a starter? That’s what you have to ask yourself.
Yes....
Again this is elite soccer, if your scared of someone better taking your child’s spot then it is possible that she isn’t that “elite” I don’t mean to come of like a jerk so sorry if I am, I just know that my kid wants to be with kids that push her so that she is ready for that next step, college. Do you think she will just be given a starting slot because she was loyal to her club that she’s currently on or that she was a starter at the club. Absolutely not, she needs to work for that spot. Bottom line is this, if she can’t fight for her slot now against kids around this area don’t even think about sending her to a D1 college, unfortunately she’ll never set foot on the field.
LOL elite at 13-15 years old? No it’s middle school and high school soccer. I am so tired of the “water down” competition argument- need for elite teams. This is just for the parents. These kids change a lot from middle school to high school. There is too much emphasis put on winning at these ages. For what? A u15 ranking on a website? Have you looked at how many girls go on to play at an elite college program for these “elite” teams....not many. Most will never play college soccer.
The folding of DA just limits the opportunities for girls going forward. Seriously I have seen so many “elite” u13/u14 players disappear by u16. I also have seen bench players at u12 or 2nd team girl who switch teams and really take off. Coaches who like this or that player even though the player is weak. This just puts more power into a hands of a few coaches, limits opportunities for girls and feed ego of the parents. Elite soccer is about the top 2-4 players on the team. That is all the coaches and club care about. You will learn this over the next year or so. Yes I have gone through this twice with two different kids.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 13:48
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ECNL spots will go to the players the coach in that age group knows. This is a nightmare
There are plenty of DA players who some ECNL coaches don't know. Especially given geography -- e.g., BRYC may never have seen some of the FCV players, or not since they were U-little which is not relevant. If those players show up and immediately stand out, they'll get a chance even without prior knowledge, and could displace another different DA player that coach thought she/he wanted. the question is when and where do they show up.
Bottom line, let your kid know she will have to fight for her slot on the team she is currently at. Honestly! My kid is excited for the opportunity for some of the top players to shift to her team potentially. She has been playing against them for years and knows them very well. As she is very competitive she wants the most competitive team. Hopefully we will get some coming to our club.
Is she a starter? That’s what you have to ask yourself.
Yes....
Again this is elite soccer, if your scared of someone better taking your child’s spot then it is possible that she isn’t that “elite” I don’t mean to come of like a jerk so sorry if I am, I just know that my kid wants to be with kids that push her so that she is ready for that next step, college. Do you think she will just be given a starting slot because she was loyal to her club that she’s currently on or that she was a starter at the club. Absolutely not, she needs to work for that spot. Bottom line is this, if she can’t fight for her slot now against kids around this area don’t even think about sending her to a D1 college, unfortunately she’ll never set foot on the field.
Tryouts are going to be early fall. ECNL is a year long program and teams are full. Tryouts will be in early fall
now. Save the bragging until then.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 13:32
Subject: Re:Post-DA future - Girls
Does anyone really think there will be soccer games being played this autumn? I think it’s much more likely that we’re looking at early 2021 as the first time any of these girls get back on a field, in time for the Virginia HS season. And that’s well after the ECNL mid-Atlantic season is over.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 13:30
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Parents are losing jobs, and Well fare is on the rise. Are coaches willing to take a cut in pay?
If you are losing your job you shouldn’t even be thinking about putting your daughter on a travel soccer team.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 13:29
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Parents are losing jobs, and Well fare is on the rise. Are coaches willing to take a cut in pay?
Coaches all over the country already have been let go or taken pay cuts....
Pretty sick that it sounds like you want that
Coaches don’t need to take a pay cut. If you can’t afford the luxury of being on an elite soccer team because you don’t have the funds to do so then don’t waste your money save it and let the soccer world go.
