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Anonymous wrote:It's worth nothing that in some situations, it doesn't matter what a player does. A coach is looming for something specific, like speed or size or things a 9 year old can't control.

Or gaming the u10 age group. You can win a lot of u10 games by gaming. You are not playing or developing soccer players but you win games. As you can see it’s the most important thing to u little parents. Let’s see what you will be saying at u16.

Anonymous wrote:It's worth nothing that in some situations, it doesn't matter what a player does. A coach is looming for something specific, like speed or size or things a 9 year old can't control.

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Anonymous wrote:Or switch clubs to one that has a better developmental philosophy. There are so many to choose from at every level of play. You don't have to stay where your kid isn't getting good coaching and development.

The coach may be good or may be bad. This is unknown. But the parent needs to talk to the coach.

Anonymous wrote:Or switch clubs to one that has a better developmental philosophy. There are so many to choose from at every level of play. You don't have to stay where your kid isn't getting good coaching and development.

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Just go away. You don’t understand competitive sports and the purpose of travel and rec sports. Your kid will not last long in travel sports.

Just because you paid does not mean playing time is an entitlement. 50% of minutes is fair. Take a look at DA game reports and you’ll see kids getting 10-20 minutes a game and they pay significantly more than U10.

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Yep. That’s me.

I have 3 kids who played youth soccer. 1 played 4 years of college. 1 played through u18 and is in Germany now - he switched to competitive lifting (there’s a dull sport to watch). 1 dropped out at u14 but is a heckuva drummer. I coached 8 years myself and had my D license (lapsed long ago) I have stood on the sidelines and watched my kids in at least 1000 youth games (my daughter at u14 played in 82 games - another dad and I figured that out a few years back. Insanity of course but the goal then was to set the team up to win a USYSA national championship (just prior to ECNL days)). Oh, and don’t forget about the 150 or so high school games (tried to get to most) and about 40 or so college games (can’t travel that much). I also was an officer of our youth rec league for 4 years. And, as my kids reffed I also took the certification classes and reffed for 4 years due to a shortage.

In retrospect I can say with some surety that exactly zero of all those club games meant anything other than maybe the usysa regionals. (Never had a kid make finals). And, the handful of games where my kids were being scouted. Some of the college playoff games were “important” in the sense of team ranking and rivalry. More important to the kid than to us obviously. By then though, as I have said before, you are mostly hoping to have your kid avoid getting hurt.

So - one thing all those years of experiences gives you is perspective. And one large dose of parent perspective is that your kid’s team winning a u10 or u14 or u17 game, any game, means exactly zero. Nothing at all. What matters is whether your kid and others learned something at each stage, and whether they had fun at each stage. That’s it. So, with all that hindsight, that all good coaches and club directors have, it is easy to say: play every kid as much as possible. And if you have a concern that a kid is not good enough to play then don’t put them on the team and don’t take their money. Easy.

Exactly. There is no reason to look at any 9 year old, put them on a team and then relegate them to "bench position" . Let the kids play!

In a rec league. Travel is competitive we compete to win not to play equal minutes Competition within the team dictates minutes played. If you feel entitled to minutes just because you paid you just don't get what competitive sports is all about

Equal minutes isn't the point. The point is there shouldn't be a huge disparity in playing time.

For the last time. Talk to the coach about the perceived disparity.

You are the only person who thinks that 50% playing time for an admitted bottom 1/4 player on a TRAVEL TEAM is not fair.

Talk to the coach

Train more away from the team

Find a team more suitable for the player’s level.

Nothing egregious is being done to your player.

Paying the same money does not equate the same playing time. Would you think if you paid more your player should then become a starter?

You can’t buy the experience you think your kid should get.

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Just go away. You don’t understand competitive sports and the purpose of travel and rec sports. Your kid will not last long in travel sports.

Just because you paid does not mean playing time is an entitlement. 50% of minutes is fair. Take a look at DA game reports and you’ll see kids getting 10-20 minutes a game and they pay significantly more than U10.

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Yep. That’s me.

I have 3 kids who played youth soccer. 1 played 4 years of college. 1 played through u18 and is in Germany now - he switched to competitive lifting (there’s a dull sport to watch). 1 dropped out at u14 but is a heckuva drummer. I coached 8 years myself and had my D license (lapsed long ago) I have stood on the sidelines and watched my kids in at least 1000 youth games (my daughter at u14 played in 82 games - another dad and I figured that out a few years back. Insanity of course but the goal then was to set the team up to win a USYSA national championship (just prior to ECNL days)). Oh, and don’t forget about the 150 or so high school games (tried to get to most) and about 40 or so college games (can’t travel that much). I also was an officer of our youth rec league for 4 years. And, as my kids reffed I also took the certification classes and reffed for 4 years due to a shortage.

In retrospect I can say with some surety that exactly zero of all those club games meant anything other than maybe the usysa regionals. (Never had a kid make finals). And, the handful of games where my kids were being scouted. Some of the college playoff games were “important” in the sense of team ranking and rivalry. More important to the kid than to us obviously. By then though, as I have said before, you are mostly hoping to have your kid avoid getting hurt.

So - one thing all those years of experiences gives you is perspective. And one large dose of parent perspective is that your kid’s team winning a u10 or u14 or u17 game, any game, means exactly zero. Nothing at all. What matters is whether your kid and others learned something at each stage, and whether they had fun at each stage. That’s it. So, with all that hindsight, that all good coaches and club directors have, it is easy to say: play every kid as much as possible. And if you have a concern that a kid is not good enough to play then don’t put them on the team and don’t take their money. Easy.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


Just go away. You don’t understand competitive sports and the purpose of travel and rec sports. Your kid will not last long in travel sports.

Just because you paid does not mean playing time is an entitlement. 50% of minutes is fair. Take a look at DA game reports and you’ll see kids getting 10-20 minutes a game and they pay significantly more than U10.

————//////

Yep. That’s me.

I have 3 kids who played youth soccer. 1 played 4 years of college. 1 played through u18 and is in Germany now - he switched to competitive lifting (there’s a dull sport to watch). 1 dropped out at u14 but is a heckuva drummer. I coached 8 years myself and had my D license (lapsed long ago) I have stood on the sidelines and watched my kids in at least 1000 youth games (my daughter at u14 played in 82 games - another dad and I figured that out a few years back. Insanity of course but the goal then was to set the team up to win a USYSA national championship (just prior to ECNL days)). Oh, and don’t forget about the 150 or so high school games (tried to get to most) and about 40 or so college games (can’t travel that much). I also was an officer of our youth rec league for 4 years. And, as my kids reffed I also took the certification classes and reffed for 4 years due to a shortage.

In retrospect I can say with some surety that exactly zero of all those club games meant anything other than maybe the usysa regionals. (Never had a kid make finals). And, the handful of games where my kids were being scouted. Some of the college playoff games were “important” in the sense of team ranking and rivalry. More important to the kid than to us obviously. By then though, as I have said before, you are mostly hoping to have your kid avoid getting hurt.

So - one thing all those years of experiences gives you is perspective. And one large dose of parent perspective is that your kid’s team winning a u10 or u14 or u17 game, any game, means exactly zero. Nothing at all. What matters is whether your kid and others learned something at each stage, and whether they had fun at each stage. That’s it. So, with all that hindsight, that all good coaches and club directors have, it is easy to say: play every kid as much as possible. And if you have a concern that a kid is not good enough to play then don’t put them on the team and don’t take their money. Easy.

Exactly. There is no reason to look at any 9 year old, put them on a team and then relegate them to "bench position" . Let the kids play!

In a rec league. Travel is competitive we compete to win not to play equal minutes Competition within the team dictates minutes played. If you feel entitled to minutes just because you paid you just don't get what competitive sports is all about

Equal minutes isn't the point. The point is there shouldn't be a huge disparity in playing time.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


Just go away. You don’t understand competitive sports and the purpose of travel and rec sports. Your kid will not last long in travel sports.

Just because you paid does not mean playing time is an entitlement. 50% of minutes is fair. Take a look at DA game reports and you’ll see kids getting 10-20 minutes a game and they pay significantly more than U10.

————//////

Yep. That’s me.

I have 3 kids who played youth soccer. 1 played 4 years of college. 1 played through u18 and is in Germany now - he switched to competitive lifting (there’s a dull sport to watch). 1 dropped out at u14 but is a heckuva drummer. I coached 8 years myself and had my D license (lapsed long ago) I have stood on the sidelines and watched my kids in at least 1000 youth games (my daughter at u14 played in 82 games - another dad and I figured that out a few years back. Insanity of course but the goal then was to set the team up to win a USYSA national championship (just prior to ECNL days)). Oh, and don’t forget about the 150 or so high school games (tried to get to most) and about 40 or so college games (can’t travel that much). I also was an officer of our youth rec league for 4 years. And, as my kids reffed I also took the certification classes and reffed for 4 years due to a shortage.

In retrospect I can say with some surety that exactly zero of all those club games meant anything other than maybe the usysa regionals. (Never had a kid make finals). And, the handful of games where my kids were being scouted. Some of the college playoff games were “important” in the sense of team ranking and rivalry. More important to the kid than to us obviously. By then though, as I have said before, you are mostly hoping to have your kid avoid getting hurt.

So - one thing all those years of experiences gives you is perspective. And one large dose of parent perspective is that your kid’s team winning a u10 or u14 or u17 game, any game, means exactly zero. Nothing at all. What matters is whether your kid and others learned something at each stage, and whether they had fun at each stage. That’s it. So, with all that hindsight, that all good coaches and club directors have, it is easy to say: play every kid as much as possible. And if you have a concern that a kid is not good enough to play then don’t put them on the team and don’t take their money. Easy.

Exactly. There is no reason to look at any 9 year old, put them on a team and then relegate them to "bench position" . Let the kids play!

In a rec league. Travel is competitive we compete to win not to play equal minutes Competition within the team dictates minutes played. If you feel entitled to minutes just because you paid you just don't get what competitive sports is all about

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


Just go away. You don’t understand competitive sports and the purpose of travel and rec sports. Your kid will not last long in travel sports.

Just because you paid does not mean playing time is an entitlement. 50% of minutes is fair. Take a look at DA game reports and you’ll see kids getting 10-20 minutes a game and they pay significantly more than U10.

————//////

Yep. That’s me.

I have 3 kids who played youth soccer. 1 played 4 years of college. 1 played through u18 and is in Germany now - he switched to competitive lifting (there’s a dull sport to watch). 1 dropped out at u14 but is a heckuva drummer. I coached 8 years myself and had my D license (lapsed long ago) I have stood on the sidelines and watched my kids in at least 1000 youth games (my daughter at u14 played in 82 games - another dad and I figured that out a few years back. Insanity of course but the goal then was to set the team up to win a USYSA national championship (just prior to ECNL days)). Oh, and don’t forget about the 150 or so high school games (tried to get to most) and about 40 or so college games (can’t travel that much). I also was an officer of our youth rec league for 4 years. And, as my kids reffed I also took the certification classes and reffed for 4 years due to a shortage.

In retrospect I can say with some surety that exactly zero of all those club games meant anything other than maybe the usysa regionals. (Never had a kid make finals). And, the handful of games where my kids were being scouted. Some of the college playoff games were “important” in the sense of team ranking and rivalry. More important to the kid than to us obviously. By then though, as I have said before, you are mostly hoping to have your kid avoid getting hurt.

So - one thing all those years of experiences gives you is perspective. And one large dose of parent perspective is that your kid’s team winning a u10 or u14 or u17 game, any game, means exactly zero. Nothing at all. What matters is whether your kid and others learned something at each stage, and whether they had fun at each stage. That’s it. So, with all that hindsight, that all good coaches and club directors have, it is easy to say: play every kid as much as possible. And if you have a concern that a kid is not good enough to play then don’t put them on the team and don’t take their money. Easy.

Exactly. There is no reason to look at any 9 year old, put them on a team and then relegate them to "bench position" . Let the kids play!

Anonymous wrote:


Just go away. You don’t understand competitive sports and the purpose of travel and rec sports. Your kid will not last long in travel sports.

Just because you paid does not mean playing time is an entitlement. 50% of minutes is fair. Take a look at DA game reports and you’ll see kids getting 10-20 minutes a game and they pay significantly more than U10.

————//////

Yep. That’s me.

I have 3 kids who played youth soccer. 1 played 4 years of college. 1 played through u18 and is in Germany now - he switched to competitive lifting (there’s a dull sport to watch). 1 dropped out at u14 but is a heckuva drummer. I coached 8 years myself and had my D license (lapsed long ago) I have stood on the sidelines and watched my kids in at least 1000 youth games (my daughter at u14 played in 82 games - another dad and I figured that out a few years back. Insanity of course but the goal then was to set the team up to win a USYSA national championship (just prior to ECNL days)). Oh, and don’t forget about the 150 or so high school games (tried to get to most) and about 40 or so college games (can’t travel that much). I also was an officer of our youth rec league for 4 years. And, as my kids reffed I also took the certification classes and reffed for 4 years due to a shortage.

In retrospect I can say with some surety that exactly zero of all those club games meant anything other than maybe the usysa regionals. (Never had a kid make finals). And, the handful of games where my kids were being scouted. Some of the college playoff games were “important” in the sense of team ranking and rivalry. More important to the kid than to us obviously. By then though, as I have said before, you are mostly hoping to have your kid avoid getting hurt.

So - one thing all those years of experiences gives you is perspective. And one large dose of parent perspective is that your kid’s team winning a u10 or u14 or u17 game, any game, means exactly zero. Nothing at all. What matters is whether your kid and others learned something at each stage, and whether they had fun at each stage. That’s it. So, with all that hindsight, that all good coaches and club directors have, it is easy to say: play every kid as much as possible. And if you have a concern that a kid is not good enough to play then don’t put them on the team and don’t take their money. Easy.