You can't argue that Westover can't get special treatment in one sentence and then say that just making option is less disruptive b/c that is the same special treatment for other neighborhoods. I'm not going to be impacted either way, unless they bring another school into the mix, so maybe I see it without bias. McKinley, Tuckahoe or Nottingham make sense IF there has to be an option school.

Reed is closer to McKinley and the Tuckahoe unit adjacent to Reed is actually closer to McK than Tuckahoe anyway When the weird boundary shift happened a few years ago, that neighborhood stayed Tuck, while McK stretched way up into Tara-Leeway. The kids on the other side of Washington are actually walkers to Reed, too, with the placement of a crossing guard. Those families cross Washington all the time for the fields, library and Westover merchants. Going to school is no different.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t they just ‘Fleet’ McKinley? Move majority of McKinely to Reed, keeping same admins and teachers etc like PH to Fleet, and keeping majority of students. The make McKinely an option school for ATS, and then ATS becomes Key Immersion destination?

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Why is this better than making reed option? Plus McKinley is not walkers to reed and tuckahoe largely is

Or make tuckahoe Reed but that changes boundaries more b/c Reed is In McKinely zone

Red is I. Tuckahoe zone

Oh I see. Yeah, it’s being built on the boundary of Tuckahoe and McKinely zone. Sure you can make it Tuckahoe, I don’t really care. But it seems much closer to the majority of McKinely and changing that boundary literally only changes a couple of PU immediately adjacent between McKinely and Tuckahoe.

Yeah some work on the edges but less disruptive and it gets us an option school out west with less drama.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Elementary-School-Boundary-Map-SY19-20.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t they just ‘Fleet’ McKinley? Move majority of McKinely to Reed, keeping same admins and teachers etc like PH to Fleet, and keeping majority of students. The make McKinely an option school for ATS, and then ATS becomes Key Immersion destination?

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Why is this better than making reed option? Plus McKinley is not walkers to reed and tuckahoe largely is

Or make tuckahoe Reed but that changes boundaries more b/c Reed is In McKinely zone

Red is I. Tuckahoe zone

What they should do is break up the overwhelming poverty at CArlin Springs. Make it immersion. Give it’s current enrolled students priority for the unfilled Spanish speaking spots. And then push boundaries north. All the way to Nottingham and Tuckahoe. That helps more kids and while there will be some new bus riders in that scenario, that is inevitable. Unless we perfectly site each school in the middle of a walk zone we are going to see more and more bus riders in APS. I know that doesn’t fit the County’s walkability agenda but it’s reality when you develop the county without paying any attention to schools. Thanks APAH and company!

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t they just ‘Fleet’ McKinley? Move majority of McKinely to Reed, keeping same admins and teachers etc like PH to Fleet, and keeping majority of students. The make McKinely an option school for ATS, and then ATS becomes Key Immersion destination?

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Why is this better than making reed option? Plus McKinley is not walkers to reed and tuckahoe largely is

Neighborhood schools should get the larger, newer facilities. People will travel for option schools and accept less nice facilities, trailers even. They do it now. I really don’t think making a brand new highly walkable school an option is a good choice, any way you look at it. If there has to be an option school in the NW, it should be one of the other schools. They can do analysis of walk zones and accessibility for transportation and make a reasoned decision rather than one based on which school has the loudest advocates.

And maybe Reed McKinely isn’t the optimized walkers — but at least avoid long narrow boundaries which hurt everyone

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t they just ‘Fleet’ McKinley? Move majority of McKinely to Reed, keeping same admins and teachers etc like PH to Fleet, and keeping majority of students. The make McKinely an option school for ATS, and then ATS becomes Key Immersion destination?

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Why is this better than making reed option? Plus McKinley is not walkers to reed and tuckahoe largely is

Neighborhood schools should get the larger, newer facilities. People will travel for option schools and accept less nice facilities, trailers even. They do it now. I really don’t think making a brand new highly walkable school an option is a good choice, any way you look at it. If there has to be an option school in the NW, it should be one of the other schools. They can do analysis of walk zones and accessibility for transportation and make a reasoned decision rather than one based on which school has the loudest advocates.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t they just ‘Fleet’ McKinley? Move majority of McKinely to Reed, keeping same admins and teachers etc like PH to Fleet, and keeping majority of students. The make McKinely an option school for ATS, and then ATS becomes Key Immersion destination?

Yes...

Why is this better than making reed option? Plus McKinley is not walkers to reed and tuckahoe largely is

Or make tuckahoe Reed but that changes boundaries more b/c Reed is In McKinely zone

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t they just ‘Fleet’ McKinley? Move majority of McKinely to Reed, keeping same admins and teachers etc like PH to Fleet, and keeping majority of students. The make McKinely an option school for ATS, and then ATS becomes Key Immersion destination?

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Why is this better than making reed option? Plus McKinley is not walkers to reed and tuckahoe largely is

Because giving a NEW school to another option program will cause lots of strife. McKinely has suffered a lot the last few years with subpar facilities, so getting anew school is nice balance.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t they just ‘Fleet’ McKinley? Move majority of McKinely to Reed, keeping same admins and teachers etc like PH to Fleet, and keeping majority of students. The make McKinely an option school for ATS, and then ATS becomes Key Immersion destination?

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Why is this better than making reed option? Plus McKinley is not walkers to reed and tuckahoe largely is

Anonymous wrote:Why don’t they just ‘Fleet’ McKinley? Move majority of McKinely to Reed, keeping same admins and teachers etc like PH to Fleet, and keeping majority of students. The make McKinely an option school for ATS, and then ATS becomes Key Immersion destination?

One reason being that ATS doesn’t appear in IPP materials. Every indication is that it is being cut.

Anonymous wrote:Why don’t they just ‘Fleet’ McKinley? Move majority of McKinely to Reed, keeping same admins and teachers etc like PH to Fleet, and keeping majority of students. The make McKinely an option school for ATS, and then ATS becomes Key Immersion destination?

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Why don’t they just ‘Fleet’ McKinley? Move majority of McKinely to Reed, keeping same admins and teachers etc like PH to Fleet, and keeping majority of students. The make McKinely an option school for ATS, and then ATS becomes Key Immersion destination?

Anonymous wrote:1) Reed will be a neighborhood school. Accept it and move on (as I am doing, despite being a Nottingham parent who would be less likely to change schools if they made Reed option).

2) There are no perfect solutions here, or even great ones. There are only options that make the best of the situation at hand. So if you’re claiming your proposed solution is awesome, stop being disingenuous. And if you’re saying a solution you don’t like is a non-starter because it’s not ideal, also stop being disingenuous.

Guessing you're in that one Nottingham planning unit that is south of Lee Highway and near Reed, so you're part of the group pushing for Reed to be a neighborhood school.

I don't think it's a done deal at all. Why should Westover get a special promise to have a neighborhood school? Every school and site should be looked at equally to do what's best for the whole county, not give special protection to one neighborhood. An option school in Westover makes a lot of sense. It's a central location and it's less disruptive to existing school communities.

And the traffic arguments are just hilarious. That site is no less equipped for traffic than other school sites in Arlington.

Anonymous wrote:Immersion should go to Carlin Springs. ATS should either be eliminated or go to Nottingham. Ashlawn's boundary should come over and take some of the current Carlin Springs PUs, maybe even some of Barcroft's CAFs. ATS as a neighborhood school can help balance Barrett and relieve McKinley.

Everyone keeps forgetting Montessori, which APS may want to move in 2-5 years so Career Center can grow as HS center. Montessori to NW actually makes the most sense ( along with eliminating ATS).