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Anonymous wrote:In my view, few campuses are as profoundly impressive as UVA’s and William & Mary’s.

You have a very limited view. Have you ever ventured outside of Virginia?

NP. I've lived all over the country, and have only been in VA for a few years, and find UVA and William and Mary to be absolutely gorgeous. And impressive.

Why are you (and many others here) so threatened by the fact that people *gasp* like the public universities in Virginia? What's up with that?

I literally couldn’t care less about Virginia public universities but I find it odd that somebody can’t appreciate the beauty of campuses outside of the colonial architecture spectrum.....seems limited.

Gosh, I guess you are more intelligent than Forbes. https://www.forbes.com/pictures/ekkf45i/university-of-virginia-charlottesville-va/#11cdfd24197c

Intelligent? You’re an idiot.

would you prefer Great Value Colleges? UVA is often listed as no. 1 by ranking services. I guess you assume they are all idiots https://news.virginia.edu/content/accolades-uva-again-ranked-beautiful-college-list

What are the few colleges that are as "profoundly impressive"? Since you did say you have been to colleges outside of VA. Surely, you can name a few.

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THE has them ranked quite low. Are they idiots?

I’m not disputing their “rank”, but asking you what are some of the other “profoundly impressive” college campuses. Surely you can think of a few others. Right?

You’re arguing with a different poster. I’m merely pointing out that to disagree with a ranking has nothing to do with someone’s intelligence. If Forbes likes a particular campus anyone can disagree without it being a question of their intelligence. It was a stupid comment. That said, I think UVA is beautiful. W&M too. (Though I think Richmond has them both beat.)

Richmond is certainly more consistent than UVA or W&M. For some reason they are often overlooked in these rankings. Richmond always incorporated Gothic elements into buildings while UVA and W&M were off building some ugly modern buildings. (I'm not at all opposed to modern, but it can be tough to integrate with traditional buildings and a bad modern building is usually worse than a bad traditional buildings.) Even the Robins Center has Gothic elements (that probably added a lot to the cost). It also hasn't had to expand into disconnected areas to accommodate growth like UVA has to. W&M has as well, but to a lesser extent. Still, I can't say I like Richmond's campus more than W&M or UVA. Although it is in a residential area, it seems kind of isolated. W&M and UVA have commercial parts of their towns just across the street.

What disconnected areas? And ALL older universities have had the same problem that you raise: how to efficiently build newer, better, more comfortable and environmentally-friendly buildings on a budget (especially true for state schools). My own SLAC has AWFUL dorms built in the 70s. Huge, ugly cinderblock monstrosities next to gorgeous gothic buildings. The Lamont library at Harvard comes to mind - ugly but functional and totally alien in style to the Widener library next door or other adjacent buildings dating back 100s of years. Universities do what they can afford and move on.

You might have just described why it seems Harvard doesn't seem to get mentioned on this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:In my view, few campuses are as profoundly impressive as UVA’s and William & Mary’s.

You have a very limited view. Have you ever ventured outside of Virginia?

NP. I've lived all over the country, and have only been in VA for a few years, and find UVA and William and Mary to be absolutely gorgeous. And impressive.

Why are you (and many others here) so threatened by the fact that people *gasp* like the public universities in Virginia? What's up with that?

I literally couldn’t care less about Virginia public universities but I find it odd that somebody can’t appreciate the beauty of campuses outside of the colonial architecture spectrum.....seems limited.

Gosh, I guess you are more intelligent than Forbes. https://www.forbes.com/pictures/ekkf45i/university-of-virginia-charlottesville-va/#11cdfd24197c

Intelligent? You’re an idiot.

would you prefer Great Value Colleges? UVA is often listed as no. 1 by ranking services. I guess you assume they are all idiots https://news.virginia.edu/content/accolades-uva-again-ranked-beautiful-college-list

What are the few colleges that are as "profoundly impressive"? Since you did say you have been to colleges outside of VA. Surely, you can name a few.

Well?

THE has them ranked quite low. Are they idiots?

I’m not disputing their “rank”, but asking you what are some of the other “profoundly impressive” college campuses. Surely you can think of a few others. Right?

You’re arguing with a different poster. I’m merely pointing out that to disagree with a ranking has nothing to do with someone’s intelligence. If Forbes likes a particular campus anyone can disagree without it being a question of their intelligence. It was a stupid comment. That said, I think UVA is beautiful. W&M too. (Though I think Richmond has them both beat.)

Richmond is certainly more consistent than UVA or W&M. For some reason they are often overlooked in these rankings. Richmond always incorporated Gothic elements into buildings while UVA and W&M were off building some ugly modern buildings. (I'm not at all opposed to modern, but it can be tough to integrate with traditional buildings and a bad modern building is usually worse than a bad traditional buildings.) Even the Robins Center has Gothic elements (that probably added a lot to the cost). It also hasn't had to expand into disconnected areas to accommodate growth like UVA has to. W&M has as well, but to a lesser extent. Still, I can't say I like Richmond's campus more than W&M or UVA. Although it is in a residential area, it seems kind of isolated. W&M and UVA have commercial parts of their towns just across the street.

What disconnected areas? And ALL older universities have had the same problem that you raise: how to efficiently build newer, better, more comfortable and environmentally-friendly buildings on a budget (especially true for state schools). My own SLAC has AWFUL dorms built in the 70s. Huge, ugly cinderblock monstrosities next to gorgeous gothic buildings. The Lamont library at Harvard comes to mind - ugly but functional and totally alien in style to the Widener library next door or other adjacent buildings dating back 100s of years. Universities do what they can afford and move on.

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Anonymous wrote:In my view, few campuses are as profoundly impressive as UVA’s and William & Mary’s.

You have a very limited view. Have you ever ventured outside of Virginia?

NP. I've lived all over the country, and have only been in VA for a few years, and find UVA and William and Mary to be absolutely gorgeous. And impressive.

Why are you (and many others here) so threatened by the fact that people *gasp* like the public universities in Virginia? What's up with that?

I literally couldn’t care less about Virginia public universities but I find it odd that somebody can’t appreciate the beauty of campuses outside of the colonial architecture spectrum.....seems limited.

Gosh, I guess you are more intelligent than Forbes. https://www.forbes.com/pictures/ekkf45i/university-of-virginia-charlottesville-va/#11cdfd24197c

Intelligent? You’re an idiot.

would you prefer Great Value Colleges? UVA is often listed as no. 1 by ranking services. I guess you assume they are all idiots https://news.virginia.edu/content/accolades-uva-again-ranked-beautiful-college-list

What are the few colleges that are as "profoundly impressive"? Since you did say you have been to colleges outside of VA. Surely, you can name a few.

Well?

THE has them ranked quite low. Are they idiots?

I’m not disputing their “rank”, but asking you what are some of the other “profoundly impressive” college campuses. Surely you can think of a few others. Right?

You’re arguing with a different poster. I’m merely pointing out that to disagree with a ranking has nothing to do with someone’s intelligence. If Forbes likes a particular campus anyone can disagree without it being a question of their intelligence. It was a stupid comment. That said, I think UVA is beautiful. W&M too. (Though I think Richmond has them both beat.)

Richmond is certainly more consistent than UVA or W&M. For some reason they are often overlooked in these rankings. Richmond always incorporated Gothic elements into buildings while UVA and W&M were off building some ugly modern buildings. (I'm not at all opposed to modern, but it can be tough to integrate with traditional buildings and a bad modern building is usually worse than a bad traditional buildings.) Even the Robins Center has Gothic elements (that probably added a lot to the cost). It also hasn't had to expand into disconnected areas to accommodate growth like UVA has to. W&M has as well, but to a lesser extent. Still, I can't say I like Richmond's campus more than W&M or UVA. Although it is in a residential area, it seems kind of isolated. W&M and UVA have commercial parts of their towns just across the street.

Nice analysis and largely agreed, though some might prefer the isolation. Personally I prefer the city of Richmond to either Charlottesville or Williamsburg and would happily trade all it has to offer for the relative inconvenience of getting to it, but that’s just my preference.

Anonymous wrote:Another fun thread bites the dust because of obsessive UVA boosters.

I wrote the PP. Not an obsessive UVA booster. Just a bit of an architecture buff.

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Anonymous wrote:In my view, few campuses are as profoundly impressive as UVA’s and William & Mary’s.

You have a very limited view. Have you ever ventured outside of Virginia?

NP. I've lived all over the country, and have only been in VA for a few years, and find UVA and William and Mary to be absolutely gorgeous. And impressive.

Why are you (and many others here) so threatened by the fact that people *gasp* like the public universities in Virginia? What's up with that?

I literally couldn’t care less about Virginia public universities but I find it odd that somebody can’t appreciate the beauty of campuses outside of the colonial architecture spectrum.....seems limited.

Gosh, I guess you are more intelligent than Forbes. https://www.forbes.com/pictures/ekkf45i/university-of-virginia-charlottesville-va/#11cdfd24197c

Intelligent? You’re an idiot.

would you prefer Great Value Colleges? UVA is often listed as no. 1 by ranking services. I guess you assume they are all idiots https://news.virginia.edu/content/accolades-uva-again-ranked-beautiful-college-list

What are the few colleges that are as "profoundly impressive"? Since you did say you have been to colleges outside of VA. Surely, you can name a few.

Well?

THE has them ranked quite low. Are they idiots?

I’m not disputing their “rank”, but asking you what are some of the other “profoundly impressive” college campuses. Surely you can think of a few others. Right?

You’re arguing with a different poster. I’m merely pointing out that to disagree with a ranking has nothing to do with someone’s intelligence. If Forbes likes a particular campus anyone can disagree without it being a question of their intelligence. It was a stupid comment. That said, I think UVA is beautiful. W&M too. (Though I think Richmond has them both beat.)

Richmond is certainly more consistent than UVA or W&M. For some reason they are often overlooked in these rankings. Richmond always incorporated Gothic elements into buildings while UVA and W&M were off building some ugly modern buildings. (I'm not at all opposed to modern, but it can be tough to integrate with traditional buildings and a bad modern building is usually worse than a bad traditional buildings.) Even the Robins Center has Gothic elements (that probably added a lot to the cost). It also hasn't had to expand into disconnected areas to accommodate growth like UVA has to. W&M has as well, but to a lesser extent. Still, I can't say I like Richmond's campus more than W&M or UVA. Although it is in a residential area, it seems kind of isolated. W&M and UVA have commercial parts of their towns just across the street.

Another fun thread bites the dust because of obsessive UVA boosters.

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Anonymous wrote:In my view, few campuses are as profoundly impressive as UVA’s and William & Mary’s.

You have a very limited view. Have you ever ventured outside of Virginia?

NP. I've lived all over the country, and have only been in VA for a few years, and find UVA and William and Mary to be absolutely gorgeous. And impressive.

Why are you (and many others here) so threatened by the fact that people *gasp* like the public universities in Virginia? What's up with that?

I literally couldn’t care less about Virginia public universities but I find it odd that somebody can’t appreciate the beauty of campuses outside of the colonial architecture spectrum.....seems limited.

The never said that, bro. And are you sure that UVA is colonial architecture?

I think there are different posters here, which may be causing confusion. Colonial architecture is not a precise style. It is the architecture of the mother country adapted to the colony. William & Mary's oldest buildings could certainly be characterized as colonial. UVA was founded after independence, so you could still try to apply that term, but it is really early republic and Jefferson's influences were classical (Roman, Greek) and Palladio. I would call it neoclassical. Jefferson didn't use the same materials or building methods, clearly, as the Romans. The Rotunda is really a 1/3rd model of the Pantheon. William & Mary's later buildings are probably best described as Georgian or neo-Georgian. Both UVA and William & Mary started building in the modern style in the 1950s-1970s. I don't think either school did it very well at all. The building came off as uninspired and half-baked. They've both been trying to fix it ever since.

Ha! Too funny. Sorry, it is sometimes hard to know who is saying what on this thing. As proof I’ll offer that I did not post anything prior about VA colleges so I’m not fixated. Just offering my two cents. For the record my favorite campus is U Chicago.

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Anonymous wrote:In my view, few campuses are as profoundly impressive as UVA’s and William & Mary’s.

You have a very limited view. Have you ever ventured outside of Virginia?

NP. I've lived all over the country, and have only been in VA for a few years, and find UVA and William and Mary to be absolutely gorgeous. And impressive.

Why are you (and many others here) so threatened by the fact that people *gasp* like the public universities in Virginia? What's up with that?

I literally couldn’t care less about Virginia public universities but I find it odd that somebody can’t appreciate the beauty of campuses outside of the colonial architecture spectrum.....seems limited.

Gosh, I guess you are more intelligent than Forbes. https://www.forbes.com/pictures/ekkf45i/university-of-virginia-charlottesville-va/#11cdfd24197c

Intelligent? You’re an idiot.

would you prefer Great Value Colleges? UVA is often listed as no. 1 by ranking services. I guess you assume they are all idiots https://news.virginia.edu/content/accolades-uva-again-ranked-beautiful-college-list

What are the few colleges that are as "profoundly impressive"? Since you did say you have been to colleges outside of VA. Surely, you can name a few.

Well?

THE has them ranked quite low. Are they idiots?

I’m not disputing their “rank”, but asking you what are some of the other “profoundly impressive” college campuses. Surely you can think of a few others. Right?

You’re arguing with a different poster. I’m merely pointing out that to disagree with a ranking has nothing to do with someone’s intelligence. If Forbes likes a particular campus anyone can disagree without it being a question of their intelligence. It was a stupid comment. That said, I think UVA is beautiful. W&M too. (Though I think Richmond has them both beat.)

And you're arguing with a different poster. I didn't make that comment. I was just asking for OTHER college campuses beyond VA. No need to get fixated on them. Again.

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Anonymous wrote:In my view, few campuses are as profoundly impressive as UVA’s and William & Mary’s.

You have a very limited view. Have you ever ventured outside of Virginia?

NP. I've lived all over the country, and have only been in VA for a few years, and find UVA and William and Mary to be absolutely gorgeous. And impressive.

Why are you (and many others here) so threatened by the fact that people *gasp* like the public universities in Virginia? What's up with that?

I literally couldn’t care less about Virginia public universities but I find it odd that somebody can’t appreciate the beauty of campuses outside of the colonial architecture spectrum.....seems limited.

The never said that, bro. And are you sure that UVA is colonial architecture?

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Anonymous wrote:In my view, few campuses are as profoundly impressive as UVA’s and William & Mary’s.

What are some others at the top of your list?

UCLA was great, as were a couple of the Claremont Colleges and Cal Tech. But I don’t live in CA anymore. I’m here now. Visited Cornell and that was good too. So far, nothing beats the two VA schools I mentioned. Just my opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:In my view, few campuses are as profoundly impressive as UVA’s and William & Mary’s.

You have a very limited view. Have you ever ventured outside of Virginia?

NP. I've lived all over the country, and have only been in VA for a few years, and find UVA and William and Mary to be absolutely gorgeous. And impressive.

Why are you (and many others here) so threatened by the fact that people *gasp* like the public universities in Virginia? What's up with that?

I literally couldn’t care less about Virginia public universities but I find it odd that somebody can’t appreciate the beauty of campuses outside of the colonial architecture spectrum.....seems limited.

Gosh, I guess you are more intelligent than Forbes. https://www.forbes.com/pictures/ekkf45i/university-of-virginia-charlottesville-va/#11cdfd24197c

Intelligent? You’re an idiot.

would you prefer Great Value Colleges? UVA is often listed as no. 1 by ranking services. I guess you assume they are all idiots https://news.virginia.edu/content/accolades-uva-again-ranked-beautiful-college-list

What are the few colleges that are as "profoundly impressive"? Since you did say you have been to colleges outside of VA. Surely, you can name a few.

Well?

THE has them ranked quite low. Are they idiots?

I’m not disputing their “rank”, but asking you what are some of the other “profoundly impressive” college campuses. Surely you can think of a few others. Right?

You’re arguing with a different poster. I’m merely pointing out that to disagree with a ranking has nothing to do with someone’s intelligence. If Forbes likes a particular campus anyone can disagree without it being a question of their intelligence. It was a stupid comment. That said, I think UVA is beautiful. W&M too. (Though I think Richmond has them both beat.)

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Anonymous wrote:In my view, few campuses are as profoundly impressive as UVA’s and William & Mary’s.

You have a very limited view. Have you ever ventured outside of Virginia?

NP. I've lived all over the country, and have only been in VA for a few years, and find UVA and William and Mary to be absolutely gorgeous. And impressive.

Why are you (and many others here) so threatened by the fact that people *gasp* like the public universities in Virginia? What's up with that?

I literally couldn’t care less about Virginia public universities but I find it odd that somebody can’t appreciate the beauty of campuses outside of the colonial architecture spectrum.....seems limited.

Gosh, I guess you are more intelligent than Forbes. https://www.forbes.com/pictures/ekkf45i/university-of-virginia-charlottesville-va/#11cdfd24197c

Intelligent? You’re an idiot.

would you prefer Great Value Colleges? UVA is often listed as no. 1 by ranking services. I guess you assume they are all idiots https://news.virginia.edu/content/accolades-uva-again-ranked-beautiful-college-list

What are the few colleges that are as "profoundly impressive"? Since you did say you have been to colleges outside of VA. Surely, you can name a few.

Well?

THE has them ranked quite low. Are they idiots?

I’m not disputing their “rank”, but asking you what are some of the other “profoundly impressive” college campuses. Surely you can think of a few others. Right?

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Anonymous wrote:In my view, few campuses are as profoundly impressive as UVA’s and William & Mary’s.

You have a very limited view. Have you ever ventured outside of Virginia?

NP. I've lived all over the country, and have only been in VA for a few years, and find UVA and William and Mary to be absolutely gorgeous. And impressive.

Why are you (and many others here) so threatened by the fact that people *gasp* like the public universities in Virginia? What's up with that?

I literally couldn’t care less about Virginia public universities but I find it odd that somebody can’t appreciate the beauty of campuses outside of the colonial architecture spectrum.....seems limited.

Gosh, I guess you are more intelligent than Forbes. https://www.forbes.com/pictures/ekkf45i/university-of-virginia-charlottesville-va/#11cdfd24197c

Intelligent? You’re an idiot.

would you prefer Great Value Colleges? UVA is often listed as no. 1 by ranking services. I guess you assume they are all idiots https://news.virginia.edu/content/accolades-uva-again-ranked-beautiful-college-list

What are the few colleges that are as "profoundly impressive"? Since you did say you have been to colleges outside of VA. Surely, you can name a few.

Well?

THE has them ranked quite low. Are they idiots?

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Anonymous wrote:In my view, few campuses are as profoundly impressive as UVA’s and William & Mary’s.

You have a very limited view. Have you ever ventured outside of Virginia?

NP. I've lived all over the country, and have only been in VA for a few years, and find UVA and William and Mary to be absolutely gorgeous. And impressive.

Why are you (and many others here) so threatened by the fact that people *gasp* like the public universities in Virginia? What's up with that?

I literally couldn’t care less about Virginia public universities but I find it odd that somebody can’t appreciate the beauty of campuses outside of the colonial architecture spectrum.....seems limited.

Gosh, I guess you are more intelligent than Forbes. https://www.forbes.com/pictures/ekkf45i/university-of-virginia-charlottesville-va/#11cdfd24197c

Intelligent? You’re an idiot.

would you prefer Great Value Colleges? UVA is often listed as no. 1 by ranking services. I guess you assume they are all idiots https://news.virginia.edu/content/accolades-uva-again-ranked-beautiful-college-list

What are the few colleges that are as "profoundly impressive"? Since you did say you have been to colleges outside of VA. Surely, you can name a few.

Well?