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Anonymous wrote:You just have to be hot and rich to get into any sorority, and be able reasonably personable.

No. Girls have to submit their complete high school transcripts, test scores, and resumes. The most valuable asset a girl can bring to rush is a high GPA. Money? They mostly want to be sure you can pay your dues for four years. Dues at Alabama are high because they have to maintain mansions, but not all SEC schools are like this.

So many of you have awfully strong opinions about something you clearly know nothing about.

(And I’m really disappointed that liberal DCUM is so narrow minded and unaccepting of a cultural difference they don’t understand. It doesn’t have to be your thing, but some of you have made huge generalizations and been really insulting and ignorant.)

- liberal GDI parent of an SEC pre-law, feminist, sorority girl

Please please don't let her put sorority affiliation on her application to law school - signed Yale law grad.

I disagree with this completely, especially if she held leadership roles in the organization or played a particularly large role in philanthropy, for example.
https://abovethelaw.com/2011/08/friday-reader-poll-should-you-go-greek-on-your-resume/

I completely disagree. And I'm on my firm's hiring committee. This is a negative for a lawyer, like beauty pageants. DON'T put it on your resuume or law school application. Never!

Let's ask RBG!!!!

Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg was an Alpha Epsilon Phi at Cornell University.

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Anonymous wrote:You just have to be hot and rich to get into any sorority, and be able reasonably personable.

No. Girls have to submit their complete high school transcripts, test scores, and resumes. The most valuable asset a girl can bring to rush is a high GPA. Money? They mostly want to be sure you can pay your dues for four years. Dues at Alabama are high because they have to maintain mansions, but not all SEC schools are like this.

So many of you have awfully strong opinions about something you clearly know nothing about.

(And I’m really disappointed that liberal DCUM is so narrow minded and unaccepting of a cultural difference they don’t understand. It doesn’t have to be your thing, but some of you have made huge generalizations and been really insulting and ignorant.)

- liberal GDI parent of an SEC pre-law, feminist, sorority girl

Please please don't let her put sorority affiliation on her application to law school - signed Yale law grad.

I disagree with this completely, especially if she held leadership roles in the organization or played a particularly large role in philanthropy, for example.
https://abovethelaw.com/2011/08/friday-reader-poll-should-you-go-greek-on-your-resume/

I completely disagree. And I'm on my firm's hiring committee. This is a negative for a lawyer, like beauty pageants. DON'T put it on your resuume or law school application. Never!

Let's ask RBG!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:You just have to be hot and rich to get into any sorority, and be able reasonably personable.

No. Girls have to submit their complete high school transcripts, test scores, and resumes. The most valuable asset a girl can bring to rush is a high GPA. Money? They mostly want to be sure you can pay your dues for four years. Dues at Alabama are high because they have to maintain mansions, but not all SEC schools are like this.

So many of you have awfully strong opinions about something you clearly know nothing about.

(And I’m really disappointed that liberal DCUM is so narrow minded and unaccepting of a cultural difference they don’t understand. It doesn’t have to be your thing, but some of you have made huge generalizations and been really insulting and ignorant.)

- liberal GDI parent of an SEC pre-law, feminist, sorority girl

Please please don't let her put sorority affiliation on her application to law school - signed Yale law grad.

I disagree with this completely, especially if she held leadership roles in the organization or played a particularly large role in philanthropy, for example.
https://abovethelaw.com/2011/08/friday-reader-poll-should-you-go-greek-on-your-resume/

I completely disagree. And I'm on my firm's hiring committee. This is a negative for a lawyer, like beauty pageants. DON'T put it on your resuume or law school application. Never!

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Anonymous wrote:You just have to be hot and rich to get into any sorority, and be able reasonably personable.

No. Girls have to submit their complete high school transcripts, test scores, and resumes. The most valuable asset a girl can bring to rush is a high GPA. Money? They mostly want to be sure you can pay your dues for four years. Dues at Alabama are high because they have to maintain mansions, but not all SEC schools are like this.

So many of you have awfully strong opinions about something you clearly know nothing about.

(And I’m really disappointed that liberal DCUM is so narrow minded and unaccepting of a cultural difference they don’t understand. It doesn’t have to be your thing, but some of you have made huge generalizations and been really insulting and ignorant.)

- liberal GDI parent of an SEC pre-law, feminist, sorority girl

Hi, I'm the PP and I was in a sorority at Duke, which isn't SEC and Greek isn't hugely important there but I would hardly say I know nothing. All of the candidates have high or comparable GPA and impressive resumes because they got into the same University. There were completely amazing women in my chapter who have gone on to incredible, impactful careers. The best way to get into a sorority is to be hot and rich and reasonably personable.

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Anonymous wrote:You just have to be hot and rich to get into any sorority, and be able reasonably personable.

No. Girls have to submit their complete high school transcripts, test scores, and resumes. The most valuable asset a girl can bring to rush is a high GPA. Money? They mostly want to be sure you can pay your dues for four years. Dues at Alabama are high because they have to maintain mansions, but not all SEC schools are like this.

So many of you have awfully strong opinions about something you clearly know nothing about.

(And I’m really disappointed that liberal DCUM is so narrow minded and unaccepting of a cultural difference they don’t understand. It doesn’t have to be your thing, but some of you have made huge generalizations and been really insulting and ignorant.)

- liberal GDI parent of an SEC pre-law, feminist, sorority girl

Haha. This is naive. They ask for those things to check your SES status and class. Are you the type of girl who has the right signifiers? That’s what they’re looking for. Not your resume experience, not your grades, except to determine that you’re their kind. Don’t fool yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:You just have to be hot and rich to get into any sorority, and be able reasonably personable.

No. Girls have to submit their complete high school transcripts, test scores, and resumes. The most valuable asset a girl can bring to rush is a high GPA. Money? They mostly want to be sure you can pay your dues for four years. Dues at Alabama are high because they have to maintain mansions, but not all SEC schools are like this.

So many of you have awfully strong opinions about something you clearly know nothing about.

(And I’m really disappointed that liberal DCUM is so narrow minded and unaccepting of a cultural difference they don’t understand. It doesn’t have to be your thing, but some of you have made huge generalizations and been really insulting and ignorant.)

- liberal GDI parent of an SEC pre-law, feminist, sorority girl

Please please don't let her put sorority affiliation on her application to law school - signed Yale law grad.

I disagree with this completely, especially if she held leadership roles in the organization or played a particularly large role in philanthropy, for example.
https://abovethelaw.com/2011/08/friday-reader-poll-should-you-go-greek-on-your-resume/

I completely disagree. And I'm on my firm's hiring committee. This is a negative for a lawyer, like beauty pageants. DON'T put it on your resuume or law school application. Never!

This is idiotic. Lots of people put it on their applications and resumes. And it can work in their benefit if the hiring/selection person is of the same sorority. And if you held a leadership role. The top roles (President, VP, Rush) are big commitments and a lot of work. You have to be organized and highly motivated.

I say this as someone who was in a sorority but am ambivalent about it for my DD.

Uh, no, not in the law. I have never seen a legal resume with a sorority or frat listed on it. honor societies, yes. Sororities, no.

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Anonymous wrote:What college?

There are campuses where rush is pretty straightforward and this would be massive overkill. And then there are the big southern schools where it may actually be useful.

+1. At a smaller school or a school that is less Greek, it’s not needed. You can find a lot of information on Pinterest/admitted student forums/etc. If the school does formal recruitment in the Spring semester (after they come back from winter break - less common but does happen at some schools), it’s probably not needed there either as your DD will have the whole Fall semester to get acquainted with the chapters on campus.

For a big Greek school though, it might be helpful. But I would still emphasize going into recruitment with a very open mind and not use the the consultant to try to get into one of the three or so top houses. She’ll have an overall better experience if she goes with the best fit house as opposed to gunning for the “top” chapter(s).

OTOH, if the girl is ambitious and really wants a top chapter because she wants that specific experience (social connections and easy access to the “best” guys with the biggest future earning potential), a consultant might be useful.

I say this as someone who knew nothing about Greek Life or how rich people control social networks post college and how disadvantaged you are if you are shut out of those networks.

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Especially since everyone knows that college is your best opportunity to find the most eligible mate you can.

And this, right here, is my problem with Southern sororities. The message you send your daughter the the most important thing she can invest in in college— in terms of money, and time and thought and planning and what she should work and sacrifice for— is landing the guy who will ensure her social standing and financial well being. In my world view, you should teach your daughter that college is the time to be investing those things in herself and her studies so that she can have a successful career and ensure her own financial success and social standing. It’s moms teaching their daughters to out themselves second to what “the right” men want. And there might be a useful place for networking and there is nothing inherently wrong with sororities that doesn’t pull resources that should be spend elsewhere.

At heart, many of these SEC sororities are about join the good sorority to meet a boy from the good fraternity so he will marry you and support you in the style to which you are accustomed. You are there to get an Mrs. And your own personal development is second to that. Before you’ve had a real chance to develop. It’s one thing to decide with your spouse auto offtrack and raise kids at 35. It’s another to never develop the skills, or even think about what you want out of life at the beginning of adulthood.

The truth is, it's both. You should be investing in yourself. Of course. That goes without saying. But it's also one of the easiest times to find a future husband. That's just reality. You may not like it but ignoring it doesn't make it go away.

Completely agree. As a yankee who attended an SEC school and fought tooth & nail to get into the best sorority I could get in, it PAID OFF. I met the right people, married well and now have a powerful alumni network for life. I've always been an "empowered women" who can support myself but also snagged the best guy to contribute to the bottom line.

It also taught me to take pride in my appearance and dress well which contributes to ANY women's confidence. Confidence=Success

Put on that Lilly pulitzer dress, wear your pearls, blow out that hair and give it your best shot!

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Anonymous wrote:You just have to be hot and rich to get into any sorority, and be able reasonably personable.

No. Girls have to submit their complete high school transcripts, test scores, and resumes. The most valuable asset a girl can bring to rush is a high GPA. Money? They mostly want to be sure you can pay your dues for four years. Dues at Alabama are high because they have to maintain mansions, but not all SEC schools are like this.

So many of you have awfully strong opinions about something you clearly know nothing about.

(And I’m really disappointed that liberal DCUM is so narrow minded and unaccepting of a cultural difference they don’t understand. It doesn’t have to be your thing, but some of you have made huge generalizations and been really insulting and ignorant.)

- liberal GDI parent of an SEC pre-law, feminist, sorority girl

Please please don't let her put sorority affiliation on her application to law school - signed Yale law grad.

I disagree with this completely, especially if she held leadership roles in the organization or played a particularly large role in philanthropy, for example.
https://abovethelaw.com/2011/08/friday-reader-poll-should-you-go-greek-on-your-resume/

I completely disagree. And I'm on my firm's hiring committee. This is a negative for a lawyer, like beauty pageants. DON'T put it on your resuume or law school application. Never!

This is idiotic. Lots of people put it on their applications and resumes. And it can work in their benefit if the hiring/selection person is of the same sorority. And if you held a leadership role. The top roles (President, VP, Rush) are big commitments and a lot of work. You have to be organized and highly motivated.

I say this as someone who was in a sorority but am ambivalent about it for my DD.

Uh, no, not in the law. I have never seen a legal resume with a sorority or frat listed on it. honor societies, yes. Sororities, no.

The original post was talking about applications to law school, not to legal jobs. Try to keep up.[/quote]


That point was made - don't put sorority membership on law school application or talk about it in essay.