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Anonymous wrote:I'm a parent of a current freshman and I think Tech will do just fine next year. While it sounds like a lot in real terms, in relative terms it's not that bad and they will find a way to absorb it. My DC is in a program that requires two years in the dorms and it's really not something that worries me. With respect to number of applicants, they did go down by approximately 3%. But, Tech switched from it's own application to the Coalition App this year. So, the numbers aren't directly comparable.

Until you get the call, that those have been waived and she needs to found housing. I would be looking now. Sophomores are most at risk, not incoming freshman.

Also, apps should have gone way up with the coalition app, not down. Your comment makes no sense.

I would agree if it was the Common App. But, the Coalition App is still kind of an odd animal based on what I saw from folks trying to complete it this year. Upperclassman have already picked out specific rooms for next year. While they may let them out of the program and the commitment to the 2nd year in the dorm, I seriously doubt they will take away the room.

You haven't looked into what other schools have done then, have you? I would start if I were you.

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Anonymous wrote:Only 30% of VT's students are engineering...there are a ton of other majors (albeit a good amount are still hard sciences).

Also remember that a lot of other areas of the state are not as rigorous in high school, but are still allotted spots. Northern VA kids are (in general) more advanced coming in.

It is a math/science/engineering school. Having Algebra 2 as your highest math Senior year is going to get you another year of tuition at a school like this.

But it’s really not. There are significantly more students majoring in other subjects than there are STEM subjects. Don’t let the name fool you.

Or consider the whole name: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a parent of a current freshman and I think Tech will do just fine next year. While it sounds like a lot in real terms, in relative terms it's not that bad and they will find a way to absorb it. My DC is in a program that requires two years in the dorms and it's really not something that worries me. With respect to number of applicants, they did go down by approximately 3%. But, Tech switched from it's own application to the Coalition App this year. So, the numbers aren't directly comparable.

Until you get the call, that those have been waived and she needs to found housing. I would be looking now. Sophomores are most at risk, not incoming freshman.

Also, apps should have gone way up with the coalition app, not down. Your comment makes no sense.

I would agree if it was the Common App. But, the Coalition App is still kind of an odd animal based on what I saw from folks trying to complete it this year. Upperclassman have already picked out specific rooms for next year. While they may let them out of the program and the commitment to the 2nd year in the dorm, I seriously doubt they will take away the room.

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Anonymous wrote:Only 30% of VT's students are engineering...there are a ton of other majors (albeit a good amount are still hard sciences).

Also remember that a lot of other areas of the state are not as rigorous in high school, but are still allotted spots. Northern VA kids are (in general) more advanced coming in.

It is a math/science/engineering school. Having Algebra 2 as your highest math Senior year is going to get you another year of tuition at a school like this.

But it’s really not. There are significantly more students majoring in other subjects than there are STEM subjects. Don’t let the name fool you.

Anonymous wrote:Only 30% of VT's students are engineering...there are a ton of other majors (albeit a good amount are still hard sciences).

Also remember that a lot of other areas of the state are not as rigorous in high school, but are still allotted spots. Northern VA kids are (in general) more advanced coming in.

It is a math/science/engineering school. Having Algebra 2 as your highest math Senior year is going to get you another year of tuition at a school like this.

Only 30% of VT's students are engineering...there are a ton of other majors (albeit a good amount are still hard sciences).

Also remember that a lot of other areas of the state are not as rigorous in high school, but are still allotted spots. Northern VA kids are (in general) more advanced coming in.

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Anonymous wrote:Any chance they’ll start rescinding like UC Davis did when they over enrolled a couple years ago?

I sure wouldn’t want my kid getting a C or 2 or worse second semester. Or any sort of “rescindable” trouble. Those acceptances do have contingencies.

What I find shocking is how many kids that get accepted to Tech have never even had pre-calc. I mean this is a tech school and there are 18 years old going in without an ounce of even pre-calc?
So many on CC are talking about should they take pre-calc at CC this summer, what is math emporium like, can I start in Calc without pre-calc kinda thing. I mean why are they accepting that caliber of kids there. I know they have a high admission rate, but people always said it was high caliber kids applying. I am not buying that anymore

I know! It's funny how the norms vary so much by immediate location. My kid who is doing well in Calc his senior year in the context of taking the most rigorous courses in other areas, and has a 720 SAT score in math without prep, viewed himself as not a VT kind of kid because he's not "math-y" because other kids were more advanced in math (he was deciding between JMU and VT for his "safety" and this was his rationale). Meanwhile in some other parts of Virginia, kids not even having taken pre-calc think they are good matches. I know NOVA is a bubble, but I didn't realize how much of one--and I also didn't realize how much it limits our kids' perceptions of themselves. My kid who could succeed in any reasonable engineering program with his abilities/background if he wanted --basically sees that as clearly not a real option. It's not that I want him to be an engineer, but your immediate context shapes what you think you are good at, prepared for etc and I think being around such high achieving norms can tilt your conceptions and in strange ways limits your perceptions of opportunities.

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Anonymous wrote:Any chance they’ll start rescinding like UC Davis did when they over enrolled a couple years ago?

I sure wouldn’t want my kid getting a C or 2 or worse second semester. Or any sort of “rescindable” trouble. Those acceptances do have contingencies.

What I find shocking is how many kids that get accepted to Tech have never even had pre-calc. I mean this is a tech school and there are 18 years old going in without an ounce of even pre-calc?
So many on CC are talking about should they take pre-calc at CC this summer, what is math emporium like, can I start in Calc without pre-calc kinda thing. I mean why are they accepting that caliber of kids there. I know they have a high admission rate, but people always said it was high caliber kids applying. I am not buying that anymore

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Anonymous wrote:Any chance they’ll start rescinding like UC Davis did when they over enrolled a couple years ago?

I sure wouldn’t want my kid getting a C or 2 or worse second semester. Or any sort of “rescindable” trouble. Those acceptances do have contingencies.

Interesting

Two years ago, UC Davis rescinded 500 admissions offers, half for poor year-end grades. A known policy for all schools that’s rarely utilized.

I see that happening here for sure. The town is going nuts. This is not an urban campus where you can find apartment complexes or put kids in hotels. They have to get rid of some of these kids

Anonymous wrote:I'm a parent of a current freshman and I think Tech will do just fine next year. While it sounds like a lot in real terms, in relative terms it's not that bad and they will find a way to absorb it. My DC is in a program that requires two years in the dorms and it's really not something that worries me. With respect to number of applicants, they did go down by approximately 3%. But, Tech switched from it's own application to the Coalition App this year. So, the numbers aren't directly comparable.

Until you get the call, that those have been waived and she needs to found housing. I would be looking now. Sophomores are most at risk, not incoming freshman.

Also, apps should have gone way up with the coalition app, not down. Your comment makes no sense.

Anonymous wrote:I'm a parent of a current freshman and I think Tech will do just fine next year. While it sounds like a lot in real terms, in relative terms it's not that bad and they will find a way to absorb it. My DC is in a program that requires two years in the dorms and it's really not something that worries me. With respect to number of applicants, they did go down by approximately 3%. But, Tech switched from it's own application to the Coalition App this year. So, the numbers aren't directly comparable.

You would expect them to go up after that switch! But I think the admissions game is just really hard under changing higher ed conditions, and VT isn't particularly good at it.
I think the narrative is more that last year they had more applications than expected, but lower yield than expected so they undershot their numbers. This year they had a little fewer applications than expected (though still a healthy amount), but higher yield than expected and they overshot their numbers. They need to use their waitlist a little smarter and err on the side of accepting fewer but putting more on the waitlist and then right on May 2 having all hands on deck to work the waitlist.
In terms of their popularity, VT has had a steady stream of increases until this year that are fairly typical of the increases seen at the VA public schools--not any skyrocketing interest or precipitous decline. This really has to do more with demographics of the state--we'll likely see some easing up in the undergrad capacity issues in these schools as there's a demographic shift to fewer college-aged students in VA in coming years.

I'm a parent of a current freshman and I think Tech will do just fine next year. While it sounds like a lot in real terms, in relative terms it's not that bad and they will find a way to absorb it. My DC is in a program that requires two years in the dorms and it's really not something that worries me. With respect to number of applicants, they did go down by approximately 3%. But, Tech switched from it's own application to the Coalition App this year. So, the numbers aren't directly comparable.

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Anonymous wrote:Any chance they’ll start rescinding like UC Davis did when they over enrolled a couple years ago?

I sure wouldn’t want my kid getting a C or 2 or worse second semester. Or any sort of “rescindable” trouble. Those acceptances do have contingencies.

Interesting

Two years ago, UC Davis rescinded 500 admissions offers, half for poor year-end grades. A known policy for all schools that’s rarely utilized.

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Anonymous wrote:If they are so oversubscribed they should make an arrangememt with GMU (or UVA W&M JMU etc) to have the NoVA students have an option to take intro/freshman classes locally at GMU and then go to VT for the next level. They are both state unis so tuition reconciliation for these students should not be too complicated.

Even if 200-300 students took the opportunity it would allow VT at least 1 semester to line up housing for these students.

No room at GMU or UVA. Both are oversubscribed. GMU junior and senior students have been ordered out of the dorms in order to make room for the incoming class.

There is room at W&M, JMU, Longwood, Radford, and Mary Washington (source is other forums) If Tech had made the right number of offers, 1000+ students could have found a home at one of the other state colleges in the first place. Their actions have a ripple effect.

How is there room at W&M? They have been enrolling right at target.

I don't think there's room at W&M--other than the usual around 100 students they admit from the waitlist. But that's built into their enrollment target.

And furthermore, why would W&M be taking from VT rather than its own waitlist? And why would a kid who was accepted and committed to VT expect to go somewhere else? This is VT's problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Any chance they’ll start rescinding like UC Davis did when they over enrolled a couple years ago?

I sure wouldn’t want my kid getting a C or 2 or worse second semester. Or any sort of “rescindable” trouble. Those acceptances do have contingencies.

Interesting