Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many times the N word gets used at Kennedy ? Oops I forgot they are allowed to use it let’s get back to focusing on Churchill

Who knows what happens there? There aren't a half dozen threads about it, and even if there were it wouldn't make it okay at Churchill. The point of this thread is that things like this keep happening at Churchill. This isn't going to get any better until parents stop making excuses and face the reality that this is a problem at Churchill.

I wonder how many times the N word gets used at Kennedy ? Oops I forgot they are allowed to use it let’s get back to focusing on Churchill

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Anonymous wrote:No one should be "made to feel like a villain" for doing the right thing because a student reported to those in authority what is happening in the school. After all, hasn't it been a big push after incidences at other schools to encourage students if they see something, say something? That is all one student did.

If students are being targeted as villains by other students solely because of their race, that only highlights the underlying bigger problem in the school.

It really makes me wonder how far spread this really is? Seriously, this probably happens way more frequently than gets reported. I suspect it is the combination of privilege and segregation that fosters an environment ripe for this sort of thing. The county really needs to step in.

+1 Not every incident reported to school administrators gets a community wide email response by the principal and a police investigation. I know this from personal experience.

The n word passes probably got an email and police attention because multiple passes were handed out through the school. The principal knew parents would find out sooner or later.

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Anonymous wrote:No one should be "made to feel like a villain" for doing the right thing because a student reported to those in authority what is happening in the school. After all, hasn't it been a big push after incidences at other schools to encourage students if they see something, say something? That is all one student did.

If students are being targeted as villains by other students solely because of their race, that only highlights the underlying bigger problem in the school.

It really makes me wonder how far spread this really is? Seriously, this probably happens way more frequently than gets reported. I suspect it is the combination of privilege and segregation that fosters an environment ripe for this sort of thing. The county really needs to step in.

I think the problems can be traced to a culture of bullying within the school. Many students are targeted who can be placed into one protected category or another. Many students are scared into silence because they don't want to become the next target. Victims turn into bullies because it is a high school with a dog eat dog environment.

Anonymous wrote:No one should be "made to feel like a villain" for doing the right thing because a student reported to those in authority what is happening in the school. After all, hasn't it been a big push after incidences at other schools to encourage students if they see something, say something? That is all one student did.

If students are being targeted as villains by other students solely because of their race, that only highlights the underlying bigger problem in the school.

It really makes me wonder how far spread this really is? Seriously, this probably happens way more frequently than gets reported. I suspect it is the combination of privilege and segregation that fosters an environment ripe for this sort of thing. The county really needs to step in.

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Anonymous wrote:The issues at Churchill are no more common than those at all other schools in the county. It's still among the top three schools any way you look at it. Sorry haters.

+1--The jealous Churchill bashers are out in full force again

Sorry. Churchill doesn’t get a pass by saying that the issues are no more common than at other high schools.

1) The issues at Churchill need to be fixed, not dismissed and ignored.

2) There's no data to back up your assumption of how prevalent the issues are at Churchill vs. other high schools.

3) Bigotry, bullying, and harassment should be addressed proactively at every school in MCPS. It's not a numbers game. All incidents in a high school are too many.

Agree that all incidents should be addressed. Disagree that Churchill is unique. It isn't.

Anonymous wrote:The issues at Churchill are no more common than those at all other schools in the county. It's still among the top three schools any way you look at it. Sorry haters.

No less common either, of course. Right?

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Anonymous wrote:The issues at Churchill are no more common than those at all other schools in the county. It's still among the top three schools any way you look at it. Sorry haters.

+1--The jealous Churchill bashers are out in full force again

Sorry. Churchill doesn’t get a pass by saying that the issues are no more common than at other high schools.

1) The issues at Churchill need to be fixed, not dismissed and ignored.

2) There's no data to back up your assumption of how prevalent the issues are at Churchill vs. other high schools.

3) Bigotry, bullying, and harassment should be addressed proactively at every school in MCPS. It's not a numbers game. All incidents in a high school are too many.

Anonymous wrote:The issues at Churchill are no more common than those at all other schools in the county. It's still among the top three schools any way you look at it. Sorry haters.

+1--The jealous Churchill bashers are out in full force again

The issues at Churchill are no more common than those at all other schools in the county. It's still among the top three schools any way you look at it. Sorry haters.

Since Hoover and Cabin John had the same issues as Churchill this month, I am surprised the PTA meeting on February 19th wasn't opened up to the entire cluster.

This is the first year I have heard of the n word passes, but swastikas have been problematic within the cluster for over a decade. Every school year there are incidences of swastikas being drawn within the schools. Sometime permanent with spray paint or a sharpie. Sometimes not so permanent with pencil or sticky notes. The PTA meeting at Churchill is long overdue but I would encourage its replication at every school in the cluster.

No one should be "made to feel like a villain" for doing the right thing because a student reported to those in authority what is happening in the school. After all, hasn't it been a big push after incidences at other schools to encourage students if they see something, say something? That is all one student did.

If students are being targeted as villains by other students solely because of their race, that only highlights the underlying bigger problem in the school.

When I was in high school in the 80's the big issue for the school administration was drugs ("Just say no!"). While well-intentioned, the rules were often dogmatic and unrealistic ("Marijuana leads directly to heroin!.")
Kids would push the edge by bringing in fake marijuana plants, or drug paraphernalia and receive extreme punishments.

MCPS has well-intentioned rules to make sure that everyone feels welcome at school. These Churchill kids pushed the edge. They never said the N-word but only passed an Internet form that said "N-word" and otherwise did not make any derogatory comments to anyone. I suppose in more prudish times they would have had the same effect by passing a card that gave them permission to use the four letter F word.

The big to-do over this also hurts AA students at the school (well at least mine), who are made to feel like the villains, for making severe trouble for their classmates. I would have given the kids a one-day suspension, and saved the severe penalties for whoever is drawing swastikas.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see how this remotely relates to school.

So some kid printed off the Internet a Willy Wonka coupon that as a joke let's you say N word. What N word we don't know maybe Nice, Neat, New.

So a African American girl was eavesdropping and tattletailed to Principal to make a big deal, embarrass school and subject whole school to diversity training movies.

The Dad or brother of that girl should have taken care of it man to man. Or the girl should have minded her own bees wax.

What if she called then Honkies or Jive Turkeys? I doubt they attempt to ruin her life and label her a racist.

You have some awful ideas. She did the right thing by reporting it. This provides another opportunity for the Churchill community to grow.

She also wasn't eavesdropping. One of the white kids gave her the pass (i.e., gave her permission to use the word) and I think she then handed the pass to the teacher.

Wow. [b]My question is why do PPs know who reported the n word passes and what is Mrs. Heckert doing to protect her from retaliation?

+1000 Way to turn the blame on the student who morally did the right thing.

The leaking the identity of students who report hate, bullying, and harassment is a long standing tradition at Churchill. Opening up the reporter to retaliation how MCPS discourages students and staff from coming forward to report anything that may tarnish a school's reputation. An investigation into previous reports at Churchill will show a similar pattern. I suspect this pattern is persistent throughout MCPS. It would be great if an independent third party - either the State of Maryland or Federal Government - investigates this problem because it is a discriminatory practice by the school system.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see how this remotely relates to school.

So some kid printed off the Internet a Willy Wonka coupon that as a joke let's you say N word. What N word we don't know maybe Nice, Neat, New.

So a African American girl was eavesdropping and tattletailed to Principal to make a big deal, embarrass school and subject whole school to diversity training movies.

The Dad or brother of that girl should have taken care of it man to man. Or the girl should have minded her own bees wax.

What if she called then Honkies or Jive Turkeys? I doubt they attempt to ruin her life and label her a racist.

You have some awful ideas. She did the right thing by reporting it. This provides another opportunity for the Churchill community to grow.

She also wasn't eavesdropping. One of the white kids gave her the pass (i.e., gave her permission to use the word) and I think she then handed the pass to the teacher.

Wow. My question is why do PPs know who reported the n word passes and what is Mrs. Heckert doing to protect her from retaliation?