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Anonymous wrote:But if this was in DC with terrible schools you would not wonder why?

DC is different, everybody works in DC so that is major pro. Gaithersburg does not support jobs to buy 1.5 mil homes and commute is a bitch.

No. Everybody does not work in DC. Most people don't work in DC.

Sure, there is NY, LA, Chicago, etc. But if we are talking this area, DC is the major job center.

It might be a "major job center"... for example DC has lots of bartenders and waitresses compared to Gaithersburg.

But most people do not work in DC. Most people actually work in the burbs.

Actually most biomedical engineers don't work in DC.

And yet, no one would blink at a $1.5M house in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:But if this was in DC with terrible schools you would not wonder why?

Nope, because people like and want to live in DC. OP is talking about Gaithersburg, which most people don't want to live in even at a much lower price tag.

Most people don't want to live in a city. Most people have to live in or near a city because of a job. Most people hate living in the city.

Most people prefer living in the burbs.

Is this a joke? Is this why cities are exploding and home values are increasing?

Anonymous wrote:A large gov't contractor is moving within 5 min of these houses. I'm positive their employees make 100+ per year. The area is nice and very walkable. It is 2 min away from the ICC. You can get to most areas without traffic in 30 min or less...including DC (via GT pkwy or Cabin John) and Tysons.

The issue is traffic and schools. Personally I would not want the most expensive house in a neighborhood. The house is gorgeous....but I pass.

Crown to Metro Center is 34 minutes at 7:30 am on a Saturday according to google maps. With even a modicum of traffic, never mind rush, it is a lot more. Some of the travel times quoted here just aren't realistic.

Anonymous wrote:So gentrification is okay and living in Gaithersburg is not okay?..

Exactly.

And don’t let crime happen in these gentrified areas bc then everyone is shocked and confused.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care what you people say - that’s freaking gorgeous.

yeah but it's in gaithersburg

Another racist. You voted for Trump, right? They look gorgeous from the outside too! Look at new home prices in Urbana, but that is probably ok since Urbana is more white?
https://www.zillow.com/homes/new_homes/16111793_plid/globalrelevanceex_sort/39.387121,-77.22951,39.323541,-77.339373_rect/12_zm/0_mmm/[url]

For crying out loud, there are reasons beyond racism that people might not want to live in Gaithersburg. It is far from DC and jobs in DC and Tysons/NoVa for that matter. It is similarly far from most of the attractions that make DC unique and exciting. There aren't many cultural attractions, highly regarded restaurants, or other things that make you say 'wow, I really want to be in Gaithersburg.'

Sorry, if we aren't all as excited about Crown and Rio as you are.

I assume most of these 'why would anyone not want to live in DC' posters like you are transplants to the area so you are all pressed to be in D.C. I work in DC, live in MD, and would love a job in MD.

You are helping prove my point. You said you would love a job in MD. The problem is that most jobs aren't in MD. You have decided you are willing to accept the longer commute. Many people aren't and being unwilling to have the longer commute doesn't make you racist.

And I never said I would only live in DC. In fact, I now live in MD, just much closer in than Gaithersburg.

Then why is 270 and 495 always so terrible? Where are these ppl going and coming from if not the suburbs?

The truth is most ppl commute and most ppl move to the suburbs bc you get more for your money. While you might hate driving, 270 in the morning says many, many ppl are willing to deal with the commute.

Most people do not commute to DC.

Most people move to the outer suburbs because they don't like smog, traffic, crime and crazy intense people.

They like green space, hiking trails (on the woods, not on the street like Capital Crescent Trail), neighborhoods and cookouts with friends.

Most commutes here are suburb to suburb.

Most of the STEM/IT/Biotech jobs are all in the suburbs. Same for most of the banking related jobs.

DC's population is dwarfed by the suburbs. MoCo, PG Fairfax are each roughly 50% bigger than DC's population.

It’s so clear neither of you PPs know anything about the traffic or commuting. I commute from Clarksburg to DC. The traffic gets worse at two particular exits (one in Gaithersburg and one in Rockville going toward DC and VA). If most ppl do not commute to DC then why are people saying most of the jobs are in DC. People commute to DC, get over it. You see the Maryland tags throughout DC. Someone said there were no jobs in the suburb and now you are saying there are. Well which is it? If the majority of commutes were suburb to suburb then 270 and 495 wouldn’t be a nightmare. You don’t see a lot of ppl getting off 270, just merging on.

And realize that most ppl are moving to the suburb bc most ppl don’t want to spend a large amount on a small space just to live in the city. DC has green space, trails, neighborhoods, and cookouts. What it doesn’t have is affordable and realistic housing options. That’s what the suburbs have.

"You people" ... um okay. I won't even address that.

So yes people commute. Most people, NO.

I get maybe you're new to this area but, people move here (DC area) for jobs.

Many jobs are in DC, not most not all. Once intelligent get experience they move to where they want to live and get a job close to home. Sorry you aren't there yet.

If everybody or most people commuted you would need 6 more lane.

Address what? The bolded means “previous posters” so maybe you must be new here and to the area but continue to be dense.

Actually, I’ve lived in this area my entire life. So wrong again.

Again, it’s obvious you aren’t from here and do not commute. Get on 270 and 495 during rush hour and then explain to everyone commuting that the reason they are commuting must be bc they aren’t intelligent and experienced in their careers. I choose to commute bc I don’t have a problem with driving like some ppl do. I choose to live in the suburbs bc I wanted more than a 1bd 1ba condo with ridiculous fees or an overpriced sh*tshack. So did many others hence the traffic. If you aren’t commuting then you have no idea what you are talking about. P.s. There have been so many petitions, articles, etc to widen 270 and local lanes.

So take your fake attempt at being passive aggressive and go study the DCUM abbrev (that’s abbreviations in case you don’t understand).

So gentrification is okay and living in Gaithersburg is not okay?..

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Anonymous wrote:It's not just one home, it's this City House collection by Crown Far. The upside is that area is highly walk able and has TONS of restaurants, coffee shops, grocery, cinema, bookstore, Target, shopping to walk to. The downside of course is the schools, unless you are thinking of private.

I'm not sure I would value this walkability that much. Yes, you can walk to a bunch, but most of it isn't terribly appealing. More importantly, you aren't walkable to transit so would almost certainly need a car for most things. Once you have a car and given that parking isn't much of an issue for the things you can walk to, I don't see the benefit of being able to walk there v a reasonable drive.

I guess if you want to go out drinking there is an advantage, but most people living here probably won't be at that stage of their life and you can always just grab an uber for the occasional night out. But for people who really want to be able to ditch their car, I don't see how this works for them.

It has free shuttle to metro and rapid transit buses go through it.

Anonymous wrote:A large gov't contractor is moving within 5 min of these houses. I'm positive their employees make 100+ per year. The area is nice and very walkable. It is 2 min away from the ICC. You can get to most areas without traffic in 30 min or less...including DC (via GT pkwy or Cabin John) and Tysons.

The issue is traffic and schools. Personally I would not want the most expensive house in a neighborhood. The house is gorgeous....but I pass.

Which gov't contractor is coming in?

A large gov't contractor is moving within 5 min of these houses. I'm positive their employees make 100+ per year. The area is nice and very walkable. It is 2 min away from the ICC. You can get to most areas without traffic in 30 min or less...including DC (via GT pkwy or Cabin John) and Tysons.

The issue is traffic and schools. Personally I would not want the most expensive house in a neighborhood. The house is gorgeous....but I pass.

Jobs exist only in DC? Laughable. That's a joke.
There are 6M people living in the greater DC Metro area. Out of those, 690k live in DC proper.
There are 770k jobs in DC according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Do the math. So, there are millions of jobs outside of DC.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care what you people say - that’s freaking gorgeous.

yeah but it's in gaithersburg

Another racist. You voted for Trump, right? They look gorgeous from the outside too! Look at new home prices in Urbana, but that is probably ok since Urbana is more white?
https://www.zillow.com/homes/new_homes/16111793_plid/globalrelevanceex_sort/39.387121,-77.22951,39.323541,-77.339373_rect/12_zm/0_mmm/[url]

For crying out loud, there are reasons beyond racism that people might not want to live in Gaithersburg. It is far from DC and jobs in DC and Tysons/NoVa for that matter. It is similarly far from most of the attractions that make DC unique and exciting. There aren't many cultural attractions, highly regarded restaurants, or other things that make you say 'wow, I really want to be in Gaithersburg.'

Sorry, if we aren't all as excited about Crown and Rio as you are.

I assume most of these 'why would anyone not want to live in DC' posters like you are transplants to the area so you are all pressed to be in D.C. I work in DC, live in MD, and would love a job in MD.

You are helping prove my point. You said you would love a job in MD. The problem is that most jobs aren't in MD. You have decided you are willing to accept the longer commute. Many people aren't and being unwilling to have the longer commute doesn't make you racist.

And I never said I would only live in DC. In fact, I now live in MD, just much closer in than Gaithersburg.

Then why is 270 and 495 always so terrible? Where are these ppl going and coming from if not the suburbs?

The truth is most ppl commute and most ppl move to the suburbs bc you get more for your money. While you might hate driving, 270 in the morning says many, many ppl are willing to deal with the commute.

Most people do not commute to DC.

Most people move to the outer suburbs because they don't like smog, traffic, crime and crazy intense people.

They like green space, hiking trails (on the woods, not on the street like Capital Crescent Trail), neighborhoods and cookouts with friends.

Most commutes here are suburb to suburb.

Most of the STEM/IT/Biotech jobs are all in the suburbs. Same for most of the banking related jobs.

DC's population is dwarfed by the suburbs. MoCo, PG Fairfax are each roughly 50% bigger than DC's population.

It’s so clear neither of you PPs know anything about the traffic or commuting. I commute from Clarksburg to DC. The traffic gets worse at two particular exits (one in Gaithersburg and one in Rockville going toward DC and VA). If most ppl do not commute to DC then why are people saying most of the jobs are in DC. People commute to DC, get over it. You see the Maryland tags throughout DC. Someone said there were no jobs in the suburb and now you are saying there are. Well which is it? If the majority of commutes were suburb to suburb then 270 and 495 wouldn’t be a nightmare. You don’t see a lot of ppl getting off 270, just merging on.

And realize that most ppl are moving to the suburb bc most ppl don’t want to spend a large amount on a small space just to live in the city. DC has green space, trails, neighborhoods, and cookouts. What it doesn’t have is affordable and realistic housing options. That’s what the suburbs have.

"You people" ... um okay. I won't even address that.

So yes people commute. Most people, NO.

I get maybe you're new to this area but, people move here (DC area) for jobs.

Many jobs are in DC, not most not all. Once intelligent get experience they move to where they want to live and get a job close to home. Sorry you aren't there yet.

If everybody or most people commuted you would need 6 more lane.

Yup, I worked in DC early on in my career but worked in MOCO making more money a few yrs later. Got another job in VA after that and then now back to MOCO. I'm in my mid 40s now so I'm pretty established in my career; and so are my friends, all of whom work in the suburbs with the exception of two who work for the Feds.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care what you people say - that’s freaking gorgeous.

yeah but it's in gaithersburg

Another racist. You voted for Trump, right? They look gorgeous from the outside too! Look at new home prices in Urbana, but that is probably ok since Urbana is more white?
https://www.zillow.com/homes/new_homes/16111793_plid/globalrelevanceex_sort/39.387121,-77.22951,39.323541,-77.339373_rect/12_zm/0_mmm/[url]

For crying out loud, there are reasons beyond racism that people might not want to live in Gaithersburg. It is far from DC and jobs in DC and Tysons/NoVa for that matter. It is similarly far from most of the attractions that make DC unique and exciting. There aren't many cultural attractions, highly regarded restaurants, or other things that make you say 'wow, I really want to be in Gaithersburg.'

Sorry, if we aren't all as excited about Crown and Rio as you are.

I assume most of these 'why would anyone not want to live in DC' posters like you are transplants to the area so you are all pressed to be in D.C. I work in DC, live in MD, and would love a job in MD.

You are helping prove my point. You said you would love a job in MD. The problem is that most jobs aren't in MD. You have decided you are willing to accept the longer commute. Many people aren't and being unwilling to have the longer commute doesn't make you racist.

And I never said I would only live in DC. In fact, I now live in MD, just much closer in than Gaithersburg.

Then why is 270 and 495 always so terrible? Where are these ppl going and coming from if not the suburbs?

The truth is most ppl commute and most ppl move to the suburbs bc you get more for your money. While you might hate driving, 270 in the morning says many, many ppl are willing to deal with the commute.

Most people do not commute to DC.

Most people move to the outer suburbs because they don't like smog, traffic, crime and crazy intense people.

They like green space, hiking trails (on the woods, not on the street like Capital Crescent Trail), neighborhoods and cookouts with friends.

Most commutes here are suburb to suburb.

Most of the STEM/IT/Biotech jobs are all in the suburbs. Same for most of the banking related jobs.

DC's population is dwarfed by the suburbs. MoCo, PG Fairfax are each roughly 50% bigger than DC's population.

It’s so clear neither of you PPs know anything about the traffic or commuting. I commute from Clarksburg to DC. The traffic gets worse at two particular exits (one in Gaithersburg and one in Rockville going toward DC and VA). If most ppl do not commute to DC then why are people saying most of the jobs are in DC. People commute to DC, get over it. You see the Maryland tags throughout DC. Someone said there were no jobs in the suburb and now you are saying there are. Well which is it? If the majority of commutes were suburb to suburb then 270 and 495 wouldn’t be a nightmare. You don’t see a lot of ppl getting off 270, just merging on.

And realize that most ppl are moving to the suburb bc most ppl don’t want to spend a large amount on a small space just to live in the city. DC has green space, trails, neighborhoods, and cookouts. What it doesn’t have is affordable and realistic housing options. That’s what the suburbs have.

"You people" ... um okay. I won't even address that.

So yes people commute. Most people, NO.

I get maybe you're new to this area but, people move here (DC area) for jobs.

Many jobs are in DC, not most not all. Once intelligent get experience they move to where they want to live and get a job close to home. Sorry you aren't there yet.

If everybody or most people commuted you would need 6 more lane.

What difference does all this data make? The fact is they are making huge stone Gothic like, very nice looking single family homes in Gaithersburg and they are selling. OP is clearly not of a sound mind when she can't tell a difference between a SFH and a town-home.
No doubt she would be stunned at the prices of brand new town-homes there too, which are above 750K.
https://www.mihomes.com/new-homes/district-of-columbia/washington-dc/gaithersburg/crown?utm_source=googlemybusiness&utm_campaign=product-community&utm_medium=social-organic&utm_content=text&utm_term=consumer

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care what you people say - that’s freaking gorgeous.

yeah but it's in gaithersburg

Another racist. You voted for Trump, right? They look gorgeous from the outside too! Look at new home prices in Urbana, but that is probably ok since Urbana is more white?
https://www.zillow.com/homes/new_homes/16111793_plid/globalrelevanceex_sort/39.387121,-77.22951,39.323541,-77.339373_rect/12_zm/0_mmm/[url]

For crying out loud, there are reasons beyond racism that people might not want to live in Gaithersburg. It is far from DC and jobs in DC and Tysons/NoVa for that matter. It is similarly far from most of the attractions that make DC unique and exciting. There aren't many cultural attractions, highly regarded restaurants, or other things that make you say 'wow, I really want to be in Gaithersburg.'

Sorry, if we aren't all as excited about Crown and Rio as you are.

I assume most of these 'why would anyone not want to live in DC' posters like you are transplants to the area so you are all pressed to be in D.C. I work in DC, live in MD, and would love a job in MD.

You are helping prove my point. You said you would love a job in MD. The problem is that most jobs aren't in MD. You have decided you are willing to accept the longer commute. Many people aren't and being unwilling to have the longer commute doesn't make you racist.

And I never said I would only live in DC. In fact, I now live in MD, just much closer in than Gaithersburg.

Then why is 270 and 495 always so terrible? Where are these ppl going and coming from if not the suburbs?

The truth is most ppl commute and most ppl move to the suburbs bc you get more for your money. While you might hate driving, 270 in the morning says many, many ppl are willing to deal with the commute.

Most people do not commute to DC.

Most people move to the outer suburbs because they don't like smog, traffic, crime and crazy intense people.

They like green space, hiking trails (on the woods, not on the street like Capital Crescent Trail), neighborhoods and cookouts with friends.

Most commutes here are suburb to suburb.

Most of the STEM/IT/Biotech jobs are all in the suburbs. Same for most of the banking related jobs.

DC's population is dwarfed by the suburbs. MoCo, PG Fairfax are each roughly 50% bigger than DC's population.

It’s so clear neither of you PPs know anything about the traffic or commuting. I commute from Clarksburg to DC. The traffic gets worse at two particular exits (one in Gaithersburg and one in Rockville going toward DC and VA). If most ppl do not commute to DC then why are people saying most of the jobs are in DC. People commute to DC, get over it. You see the Maryland tags throughout DC. Someone said there were no jobs in the suburb and now you are saying there are. Well which is it? If the majority of commutes were suburb to suburb then 270 and 495 wouldn’t be a nightmare. You don’t see a lot of ppl getting off 270, just merging on.

And realize that most ppl are moving to the suburb bc most ppl don’t want to spend a large amount on a small space just to live in the city. DC has green space, trails, neighborhoods, and cookouts. What it doesn’t have is affordable and realistic housing options. That’s what the suburbs have.

Most people are not commuting to DC. If you have been reading greater washington, WaPo and a number of other places, the refrain again and again is that most commutes are within the suburbs. About 400k people commute into DC, and there are 3.3 million jobs in the metro area. You can go look up the American Community Survey data yourself.

I'm not saying this to minimize your frustration, but to note that most of the employment is not in the city itself.

This data is old, but you can see commutes visually here:
Fairfax commuters http://bigbytes.mobyus.com/commute.aspx?County=59&State=51&MinMiles=0&MaxMiles=29&MaxCoV=0.8&CountyType=home
Montgomery County http://bigbytes.mobyus.com/commute.aspx?County=31&State=24&MinMiles=0&MaxMiles=29&MaxCoV=0.8&CountyType=home

What is interesting is that even with the old data, you have more MD commuters going to VA, than vice versa. I would imagine that things look a bit different with Tysons and the rt28 corrordor being even more developed than they were from that 2006-2010 dataset.

Here's Fairfax county's data from 2017

Of those who work outside of the county, a little more than a third are commuting to DC. Nearly as many go to Alexandria/Arlington. The last 1/3 go to PWC, MD and Loudoun.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/demographics/commuting-patterns

Here is MoCo:

https://mwejobs.maryland.gov/admin/gsipub/htmlarea/uploads/Montgomery_WorkforceRegion_Commuting_Patterns.pdf

Less than 20% of their commuters go into DC.

In Frederick, more people work in Gaithersberg than DC! In fact more than 8x more Frederick residents commute to Montomery County than they do to DC. Only 2.7% of frederick residents commute to DC.

https://mwejobs.maryland.gov/admin/gsipub/htmlarea/uploads/Frederick_WorkforceRegion_Commuting_Patterns.pdf

MD's data is all here: https://www.dllr.state.md.us/lmi/wiacommuting/

Anonymous wrote:If you have to try and convince people how nice or well off an area is, it isn’t

I guess you’re referring to Bethesda. Because Crown is brand new, no different than Pike and Rose or Bethesda facades. Not sure how one is better when they have same stores, exteriors, etc.

But school assignments and caliber of housing do differ. This house is much nicer than the rundown Bethesda homes, but schools worse in Crown.