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Anonymous wrote:It’s still a second degree felony to destroy a turtle egg.

Priorities are clear.

It’s a felony in NY to possess a firearm magazine that can hold 11 bullets.

But killing a unborn baby, nearly full term, that could live if it were delivered, simply “because I don’t wanna have this baby”, is perfectly legal.


It’s absolutely mind bending.

Truth.

Name an instance.

You know it’s clear you’re male, right?

Liar. I choose not to kill the human life within me, in spite of diar circumstances at the time.

Choose life. More and more people are finding themselves infertile when they finally decide they want a child. My heart goes out to them.

Most of the people who are infertile are infertile for reason.
Most of the people who chose to abort the child made a good choice because they would never be capable to love that child even if she carry it to a full term.

It's usually almost impossible to be sure exactly why the fertility rates are skyrocketing, isn't it? For that reason, previous abortion history cannot be excluded. After all, abortions DO mess with your reproductive organs. Perhaps Mother Nature doesn't much like elective interference.

Eco-systems can be highly sensitive.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes.

Because beyond being a mom, I am a person, and my own health and life has innate value.

This is part of why NY is a maker state, not a failed red state, by the by: equality for adults leads to better outcomes for all families and children over longer terms.

I'm 52.

no longer a practicing Catholic - but Italian . . . So there's a close tie btw the two worlds.

married late, had two kids in my late 30s, early 40s - healthy, no interventions

pro-choice to a degree, as I've supported many friends who had abortions - no judgment

But I did tell my husband with both deliveries that if he had to choose between me and the baby, that the baby would be saved. I'm no martyr; let's get that straight. But a baby has a lifetime ahead of him/her.

And that's your choice. But it's not the best choice for every family.

I grew up near a family who lost a mother, leaving behind 5 young children, and her death became a snowball effect that led to one tragedy after another. Those kids desperately needed their mother, who had kept the family stable and sound, and losing her forever ruined their lives (2 of which were needlessly cut short due to self-destructive behavior). Not saying every family goes to hell after a parent dies. But a decision to sacrifice a mother shouldn't be up to the state.

I could not agree more. Also, mothers should be able to chose whether to have additional children, based on their ability to care for the kids they already have.

Abortions should not be Birth Control 2.0. THAT'S a slippery slope, folks.

um ... abortion is Birth Control 2.0. that was the point of my comment.

Anonymous wrote:CNN article
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/23/health/new-york-abortion-measures-trnd/index.html

"We need to be honest with the public and say that this bill does not simply codify Roe v. Wade... what this bill does is expand abortion up to birth and the third trimester," State Assembly Rep. Nicole Malliotakis argued before the state legislature. She criticized the part of the law allowing medical professionals other than doctors to perform abortions, saying Roe v. Wade requires a licensed physician perform the procedure. But this law removes that requirement and allows physician assistants, nurse practitioners and midwives to perform abortions.

She also argued that removing abortion from the criminal code would mean that if a fetus died as the result of an assault on a woman there would be no prosecution. "Being assaulted and losing your baby is not a woman's choice," she said.

and if both the baby and mother die b/c the person performing the procedure was done by. . . let's say a nurse practitioner? I'm sure malpractice lawyers are salivating over this change.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes.

Because beyond being a mom, I am a person, and my own health and life has innate value.

This is part of why NY is a maker state, not a failed red state, by the by: equality for adults leads to better outcomes for all families and children over longer terms.

I'm 52.

no longer a practicing Catholic - but Italian . . . So there's a close tie btw the two worlds.

married late, had two kids in my late 30s, early 40s - healthy, no interventions

pro-choice to a degree, as I've supported many friends who had abortions - no judgment

But I did tell my husband with both deliveries that if he had to choose between me and the baby, that the baby would be saved. I'm no martyr; let's get that straight. But a baby has a lifetime ahead of him/her.

And that's your choice. But it's not the best choice for every family.

I grew up near a family who lost a mother, leaving behind 5 young children, and her death became a snowball effect that led to one tragedy after another. Those kids desperately needed their mother, who had kept the family stable and sound, and losing her forever ruined their lives (2 of which were needlessly cut short due to self-destructive behavior). Not saying every family goes to hell after a parent dies. But a decision to sacrifice a mother shouldn't be up to the state.

I could not agree more. Also, mothers should be able to chose whether to have additional children, based on their ability to care for the kids they already have.

Abortions should not be Birth Control 2.0. THAT'S a slippery slope, folks.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s still a second degree felony to destroy a turtle egg.

Priorities are clear.

It’s a felony in NY to possess a firearm magazine that can hold 11 bullets.

But killing a unborn baby, nearly full term, that could live if it were delivered, simply “because I don’t wanna have this baby”, is perfectly legal.


It’s absolutely mind bending.

Truth.

Name an instance.

You know it’s clear you’re male, right?

Liar. I choose not to kill the human life within me, in spite of diar circumstances at the time.

Choose life. More and more people are finding themselves infertile when they finally decide they want a child. My heart goes out to them.

Most of the people who are infertile are infertile for reason.
Most of the people who chose to abort the child made a good choice because they would never be capable to love that child even if she carry it to a full term.

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I'm still waiting for a pro-life person to explain why NY's law about abortion being ok if the mother's health is at risk or the fetus is not viable is so much worse than WV, AK, MS abortion law that allows for full term abortions even when the mother's life is not at risk. No prolifer has addressed my numerous post about this. Why is that?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s still a second degree felony to destroy a turtle egg.

Priorities are clear.

It’s a felony in NY to possess a firearm magazine that can hold 11 bullets.

But killing a unborn baby, nearly full term, that could live if it were delivered, simply “because I don’t wanna have this baby”, is perfectly legal.


It’s absolutely mind bending.

Truth.

Name an instance.

You know it’s clear you’re male, right?

Liar. I choose not to kill the human life within me, in spite of diar circumstances at the time.

Choose life. More and more people are finding themselves infertile when they finally decide they want a child. My heart goes out to them.

Most of the people who are infertile are infertile for reason.
Most of the people who chose to abort the child made a good choice because they would never be capable to love that child even if she carry it to a full term.

"We need to be honest with the public and say that this bill does not simply codify Roe v. Wade... what this bill does is expand abortion up to birth and the third trimester," State Assembly Rep. Nicole Malliotakis argued before the state legislature. She criticized the part of the law allowing medical professionals other than doctors to perform abortions, saying Roe v. Wade requires a licensed physician perform the procedure. But this law removes that requirement and allows physician assistants, nurse practitioners and midwives to perform abortions.

She also argued that removing abortion from the criminal code would mean that if a fetus died as the result of an assault on a woman there would be no prosecution. "Being assaulted and losing your baby is not a woman's choice," she said.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s still a second degree felony to destroy a turtle egg.

Priorities are clear.

It’s a felony in NY to possess a firearm magazine that can hold 11 bullets.

But killing a unborn baby, nearly full term, that could live if it were delivered, simply “because I don’t wanna have this baby”, is perfectly legal.


It’s absolutely mind bending.

Truth.

Name an instance.

You know it’s clear you’re male, right?

Liar. I choose not to kill the human life within me, in spite of diar circumstances at the time.

Choose life. More and more people are finding themselves infertile when they finally decide they want a child. My heart goes out to them.

Anonymous wrote:And yes, these cases aren't common. Neither is very late stage abortion -- but these problems exist, whether or not you have heard of them, unfortunately, ad that means they need to be accounted for in the law.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes.

Because beyond being a mom, I am a person, and my own health and life has innate value.

This is part of why NY is a maker state, not a failed red state, by the by: equality for adults leads to better outcomes for all families and children over longer terms.

I'm 52.

no longer a practicing Catholic - but Italian . . . So there's a close tie btw the two worlds.

married late, had two kids in my late 30s, early 40s - healthy, no interventions

pro-choice to a degree, as I've supported many friends who had abortions - no judgment

But I did tell my husband with both deliveries that if he had to choose between me and the baby, that the baby would be saved. I'm no martyr; let's get that straight. But a baby has a lifetime ahead of him/her.

And I told my husband and OB to pick me. Because I, too, have a whole life in front of me and for two of three births, kids and home for whom to care for.

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Anonymous wrote:Wild. Let's see what happens when the first pregnant woman is murdered. Democrats rejected the Republicans attempt to strengthen the rights of the unborn in crimes.

It truly is playing God.

The pregnant woman and only the pregnant woman gets to decide whether to have an abortion.

If anyone else decides for her and harms her embryo/fetus, it’s a crime.

I don’t see the problem.

Nope.

Can't eat your cake and have it, too. Sorry.

Actually you can.

Having sex with a woman isn't a crime. Unless of course, she declines your advances and you do it against her will. Then it's rape.

See how that works? The person who has the uterus or vagina or what have you gets to decide what does or does not happen to it (or whatever goes inside or stays inside).

Are there any reason why she cannot decide prior to having sex (other than diminished brain capacity)?

I think we’ve lost the plot here. WTF are you talking about?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s still a second degree felony to destroy a turtle egg.

Priorities are clear.

It’s a felony in NY to possess a firearm magazine that can hold 11 bullets.

But killing a unborn baby, nearly full term, that could live if it were delivered, simply “because I don’t wanna have this baby”, is perfectly legal.


It’s absolutely mind bending.

Truth.

Name an instance.

You know it’s clear you’re male, right?

Liar. I choose not to kill the human life within me, in spite of diar circumstances at the time.

Choose life. More and more people are finding themselves infertile when they finally decide they want a child. My heart goes out to them.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes.

Because beyond being a mom, I am a person, and my own health and life has innate value.

This is part of why NY is a maker state, not a failed red state, by the by: equality for adults leads to better outcomes for all families and children over longer terms.

I'm 52.

no longer a practicing Catholic - but Italian . . . So there's a close tie btw the two worlds.

married late, had two kids in my late 30s, early 40s - healthy, no interventions

pro-choice to a degree, as I've supported many friends who had abortions - no judgment

But I did tell my husband with both deliveries that if he had to choose between me and the baby, that the baby would be saved. I'm no martyr; let's get that straight. But a baby has a lifetime ahead of him/her.

And that's your choice. But it's not the best choice for every family.

I grew up near a family who lost a mother, leaving behind 5 young children, and her death became a snowball effect that led to one tragedy after another. Those kids desperately needed their mother, who had kept the family stable and sound, and losing her forever ruined their lives (2 of which were needlessly cut short due to self-destructive behavior). Not saying every family goes to hell after a parent dies. But a decision to sacrifice a mother shouldn't be up to the state.

I could not agree more. Also, mothers should be able to chose whether to have additional children, based on their ability to care for the kids they already have.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s still a second degree felony to destroy a turtle egg.

Priorities are clear.

It’s a felony in NY to possess a firearm magazine that can hold 11 bullets.

But killing a unborn baby, nearly full term, that could live if it were delivered, simply “because I don’t wanna have this baby”, is perfectly legal.


It’s absolutely mind bending.

Name a single instance of a nearly full-term viable, healthy baby in the womb of a healthy woman with no medical emergency was aborted.