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Anonymous wrote:It’s brilliant. Women shop for men a lot and it may cause some to buy Gillette for their men instead of another brand

do you shave him also? I would find it very odd if my wife bought me new personal grooming materials. Kind of like how women don't generally like men to dictate their personal hair grooming habits

my DH has used the same shave gel and razors for years. And yes, if I’m the one at the store I buy them. Just like he buys me tampons or deodorant if he’s at the store.

1 in 3 women can expect to be raped. That’s a very busy 1% of men.

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PP you keep talking about the commercial and that is fair but do you not see the core problem that this commercial is tackling? I think, for example, that radical muslims absolutely are facing negativity because they have been violent and have hurt people. In the same vein, men are responsible for mass shootings, responsible for assault and harassment of women. Not all men of course, but this is a problem in how we are raising boys. A problem we need to tackle as a society. Maybe Gillette isn't getting 100% right but I think they're getting closer to it then we have gotten so far.

No, no, no.

Muslims have not been violent and hurt people. Some particular Muslims have, and only they are responsible for their misdeeds, not the group as a whole.

"Men" are not responsible for mass shootings and assault and harassment of men. Only a tiny minority of particular men. This is not a problem in "how we are raising boys" because nobody is raising their son to be a violent criminal.

Um, a tiny minority of men? Statistics on rape, murder, sexual assault, and pedophilia suggest that many, many, MANY men are doing this crap. Obviously a lot of people are (unintentionally) raising their sons to be criminals.

Have you ever asked the men in your lives how old they were when they lost their virginity and to whom? Do you know many male rapes and sexual assaults go unreported?

How does your response counter my argument? Do you believe it's women raping these men and boys? Because by and large, it is not. Males are doing this to women, girls, and boys and men. Lots and lots of males are doing this. So what is wrong with them? It must be cultural right because men are not inherently bad. Are they?

No it’s not lots and lots of males raping and killing. It’s under 1% but keep up with all men and boys are evil. You are an example of toxic femininity. What is wrong with you?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s brilliant. Women shop for men a lot and it may cause some to buy Gillette for their men instead of another brand

do you shave him also? I would find it very odd if my wife bought me new personal grooming materials. Kind of like how women don't generally like men to dictate their personal hair grooming habits

my DH has used the same shave gel and razors for years. And yes, if I’m the one at the store I buy them. Just like he buys me tampons or deodorant if he’s at the store.

Um, a tiny minority of men? Statistics on rape, murder, sexual assault, and pedophilia suggest that many, many, MANY men are doing this crap. Obviously a lot of people are (unintentionally) raising their sons to be criminals.

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Anonymous wrote:Gillette...the best a beta man can gettttt.....

ha ha!!!!

I love these lines!

Uh, I think that illustrates the point.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s brilliant. Women shop for men a lot and it may cause some to buy Gillette for their men instead of another brand

do you shave him also? I would find it very odd if my wife bought me new personal grooming materials. Kind of like how women don't generally like men to dictate their personal hair grooming habits

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PP you keep talking about the commercial and that is fair but do you not see the core problem that this commercial is tackling? I think, for example, that radical muslims absolutely are facing negativity because they have been violent and have hurt people. In the same vein, men are responsible for mass shootings, responsible for assault and harassment of women. Not all men of course, but this is a problem in how we are raising boys. A problem we need to tackle as a society. Maybe Gillette isn't getting 100% right but I think they're getting closer to it then we have gotten so far.

No, no, no.

Muslims have not been violent and hurt people. Some particular Muslims have, and only they are responsible for their misdeeds, not the group as a whole.

"Men" are not responsible for mass shootings and assault and harassment of men. Only a tiny minority of particular men. This is not a problem in "how we are raising boys" because nobody is raising their son to be a violent criminal.

Um, a tiny minority of men? Statistics on rape, murder, sexual assault, and pedophilia suggest that many, many, MANY men are doing this crap. Obviously a lot of people are (unintentionally) raising their sons to be criminals.

Have you ever asked the men in your lives how old they were when they lost their virginity and to whom? Do you know many male rapes and sexual assaults go unreported?

How does your response counter my argument? Do you believe it's women raping these men and boys? Because by and large, it is not. Males are doing this to women, girls, and boys and men. Lots and lots of males are doing this. So what is wrong with them? It must be cultural right because men are not inherently bad. Are they?

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PP you keep talking about the commercial and that is fair but do you not see the core problem that this commercial is tackling? I think, for example, that radical muslims absolutely are facing negativity because they have been violent and have hurt people. In the same vein, men are responsible for mass shootings, responsible for assault and harassment of women. Not all men of course, but this is a problem in how we are raising boys. A problem we need to tackle as a society. Maybe Gillette isn't getting 100% right but I think they're getting closer to it then we have gotten so far.

No, no, no.

Muslims have not been violent and hurt people. Some particular Muslims have, and only they are responsible for their misdeeds, not the group as a whole.

"Men" are not responsible for mass shootings and assault and harassment of men. Only a tiny minority of particular men. This is not a problem in "how we are raising boys" because nobody is raising their son to be a violent criminal.

Um, a tiny minority of men? Statistics on rape, murder, sexual assault, and pedophilia suggest that many, many, MANY men are doing this crap. Obviously a lot of people are (unintentionally) raising their sons to be criminals.

Have you ever asked the men in your lives how old they were when they lost their virginity and to whom? Do you know many male rapes and sexual assaults go unreported?

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Anonymous wrote:It's very good. And imo it's the way we should culturally start talking about boys in general.

The problem with the phrase 'toxic masculinity' is that it can so easily be construed as 'masculinity is toxic'. We need to preserve the good in masculinity. Show them how to be strong good men.

I personally am amazed at the kids programming on nick and Disney, how prolific the 'strong smart girl's protagonist is versus a boy. A boy is either an anthropomorphized animal or object (Mickey, blaze etc) or Ryder. We have done a fantastic job getting feminist messaging into children's ears. We need to do the same thing for boys.

I'm a mother of boys who has never had a problem finding films for them with strong and interesting male roles. What I do have a problem is finding films for them in which female characters play equally prominent roles.

Compare those tv shows you cite to roles in Hollywood films. How many female roles vs. male roles and who gets the most lines? How many superhero movies are primarily about female superheroes? I was so happy to bring them to Wonder Woman. I have spent a lifetime watching movies about men, or movies about women pining for men. I'd like my boys to grow up watching movies in which both boys and girls, men and women play strong roles and get generous amounts of time to talk on screen and not just about the other sex.

I agree generally but not in the toddler years which is where I am. I honestly didnt notice until I had DS, DD is 3 and DS is almost 2 and there just seems to be crap targeted at him. PJ Masks where kids leave their homes in the middle of the night, animals, objects and Ryder. And some of that is great. Daniel Tiger is great for both. But compare that to...

Girls:
Elena of Avalor
Frozen
Sofia
Fancy Nancy
Nella
Peppa Pig
Vampirina
Shimmer and shine

Neutral/equal:
Bubble guppies
Mickey and co
Daniel tiger

Boys:
Paw Patrol
Puppy dog pals
Blaze
Muppet Babies
Pj masks

For the girls there are so many strong smart great girls. I agree historically it has been the other way. But the pendulum is swinging and I want role models for my son too. In terms of quality and quantity girls preschool programming knocks boys programming out of the park. Where is the African american ryder show? We have Nella and elena and vampirina...looking at diversity. Nothing for boys.

I'm a feminist too...I believe part of feminism is teaching my son to be a good man. Teaching all of our sons to be good men. And having media that exemplifies what we want a "good man" to be is important and lacking in preschool.

Did you forget Bob the Builder, Thomas the Tank Engine? I know it's over now but surely you can still find DJ Jazzy Jeff online? And I am a mother of girls, I can easily think of many more shows with strong male leads. The Loud House? Henry Danger?

I'm listing what happens to be on in the mornings and the evenings. I did forget thomas but once again, anthropormorphized. Isn't DJ Jazzy Jeff a character on the Fresh Prince of Bell Air? Are you posting from 1998?

Anonymous wrote:It’s brilliant. Women shop for men a lot and it may cause some to buy Gillette for their men instead of another brand

Anonymous wrote:It’s brilliant. Women shop for men a lot and it may cause some to buy Gillette for their men instead of another brand