Anonymous
12/06/2018 10:36
Subject: MD report cards are out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So happy that my kids school got a 5! I always thought that Barnsley was great and nice to see them score so well! Principal and staff work so hard and its nice to see the high score!
Barnsley has CES which probably helps with the scores. My DC went to HGC there. I think the non CES part of the school is supposed to be pretty good, too, but I think the scores probably do reflect that the center is there.
I disagree. The non-CES part of Barnsley is deplorable. If you take out the CES part, I highly doubt that Barnsley would still be rated five stars. Certainly, my kids have had some good teachers over the years. But the principal continuously moves teachers from grade to grade, resulting in staff planning new lessons each year rather than honing ones that have been used in previous years. The principal also has an angry demeanor that I suspect is at least partially responsible for the ridiculous amount of staff turnover. Indeed, according to the latest staff climate survey, staff morale--only 24% say staff morale is positive--is much, much lower than at other schools in the cluster: http://sharedaccountability.mcpsmd.org/SurveyResults/content.php?l=0&sch=505&survey=2018SSE&type=Staff&comparison=4
Anonymous
12/06/2018 10:32
Subject: Re:MD report cards are out!
Baltimore City POLY scores:
http://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/3/17/6/30/0403
Asian: 90% math, 90% ela
Black / AA: 72% math, 80% ela
Hispanic: 69.6% math, 91.3% ela
White: 92.9% math, 95.7% ela
Find me another school with scores like that, let alone with such a diverse student population. And POLY is a couple blocks from Cross Keys and Roland Park, hardly dangerous neighborhoods.
http://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/3/17/6/30/0403
Asian: 90% math, 90% ela
Black / AA: 72% math, 80% ela
Hispanic: 69.6% math, 91.3% ela
White: 92.9% math, 95.7% ela
Find me another school with scores like that, let alone with such a diverse student population. And POLY is a couple blocks from Cross Keys and Roland Park, hardly dangerous neighborhoods.
Anonymous
12/06/2018 10:15
Subject: Re:MD report cards are out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All of the people that react with shock when people recommend Baltimore City Public Schools, particularly the magnet schools, should check out where Baltimore Poly scored. Kids of all races are scoring great there.
Yes, but then people get stabbed in the neck while trying to generously give a person in need money. —> see the latest news report about an innocent woman getting stabbed to death. The crime in Baltimore is horrendous, we will pass.
Compared to cities with similar populations like Seattle and San Diego, DC is a very dangerous city as well. Someone was stabbed in the neck on the Red Line near Takoma going to 4th of July two years ago and there and dozens more examples of crimes like that. Baltimore does have more crime, but like DC it is localized.
Fact is that kids in POLY are outscoring kids in MoCo’s top magnet schools (Poolesville and Blair) on the same standardized test. Don’t believe me, look at the scores.
Anonymous
12/06/2018 10:14
Subject: MD report cards are out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:RCES got a 71. Seems the cutoff for a 5 is 75, so not that far behind.
Again, almost certainly due to the fact that RCES has about 20% FARMS and is below 50% white.
Really nothing revelatory.
Weller Road ES got a 5, right? <5.0% white, 80% FARMs, 54% ESOL.
Sure, but they're an exception. Basically the scores are a proxy for FARMS and ESOL rates in the schools, like every other metric.
I agree, but that PP was making excuses for RCES only getting a 4. There are actually a few other ES with a highish FARMs rate, low white population that got a 5.
Beall ES -- white 35%, FARMS 25%
Stop making excuses. RCES is a fine school, but you're trying too hard to make excuses as to why it didn't get a 5.
Whitman didn't either. Explain that one.
Don’t worry, “they did it on purpose”. Remember?
Of course. When it's a W school underperforming, the metric is wrong or they did it on purpose. When a non-W school underperforms, it means the school is mediocre.
Anonymous
12/06/2018 10:09
Subject: MD report cards are out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:RCES got a 71. Seems the cutoff for a 5 is 75, so not that far behind.
Again, almost certainly due to the fact that RCES has about 20% FARMS and is below 50% white.
Really nothing revelatory.
Weller Road ES got a 5, right? <5.0% white, 80% FARMs, 54% ESOL.
Sure, but they're an exception. Basically the scores are a proxy for FARMS and ESOL rates in the schools, like every other metric.
I agree, but that PP was making excuses for RCES only getting a 4. There are actually a few other ES with a highish FARMs rate, low white population that got a 5.
Beall ES -- white 35%, FARMS 25%
Stop making excuses. RCES is a fine school, but you're trying too hard to make excuses as to why it didn't get a 5.
Whitman didn't either. Explain that one.
Don’t worry, “they did it on purpose”. Remember?
Anonymous
12/06/2018 10:03
Subject: MD report cards are out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:RCES got a 71. Seems the cutoff for a 5 is 75, so not that far behind.
Again, almost certainly due to the fact that RCES has about 20% FARMS and is below 50% white.
Really nothing revelatory.
Weller Road ES got a 5, right? <5.0% white, 80% FARMs, 54% ESOL.
Sure, but they're an exception. Basically the scores are a proxy for FARMS and ESOL rates in the schools, like every other metric.
I agree, but that PP was making excuses for RCES only getting a 4. There are actually a few other ES with a highish FARMs rate, low white population that got a 5.
Beall ES -- white 35%, FARMS 25%
Stop making excuses. RCES is a fine school, but you're trying too hard to make excuses as to why it didn't get a 5.
Whitman didn't either. Explain that one.
Anonymous
12/06/2018 09:52
Subject: MD report cards are out!
Can someone explain to me what Credit for Well Rounded Curriculum means? And access to well rounded curriculum? They both seem like nondefined points. For example if a school near me has single digit percent proficient how can the same school earn 100% for access to s well rounded curriculum. The whole thing seems bogus to me.
Anonymous
12/06/2018 09:52
Subject: MD report cards are out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:RCES got a 71. Seems the cutoff for a 5 is 75, so not that far behind.
Again, almost certainly due to the fact that RCES has about 20% FARMS and is below 50% white.
Really nothing revelatory.
Weller Road ES got a 5, right? <5.0% white, 80% FARMs, 54% ESOL.
Sure, but they're an exception. Basically the scores are a proxy for FARMS and ESOL rates in the schools, like every other metric.
I agree, but that PP was making excuses for RCES only getting a 4. There are actually a few other ES with a highish FARMs rate, low white population that got a 5.
Beall ES -- white 35%, FARMS 25%
Stop making excuses. RCES is a fine school, but you're trying too hard to make excuses as to why it didn't get a 5.
Beall had the highest score in the RM cluster.
Anonymous
12/06/2018 09:34
Subject: MD report cards are out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:RCES got a 71. Seems the cutoff for a 5 is 75, so not that far behind.
Again, almost certainly due to the fact that RCES has about 20% FARMS and is below 50% white.
Really nothing revelatory.
Weller Road ES got a 5, right? <5.0% white, 80% FARMs, 54% ESOL.
Sure, but they're an exception. Basically the scores are a proxy for FARMS and ESOL rates in the schools, like every other metric.
Not at the elementary school level, they're not. Here are the schools that scored a 5 (from Bethesda Beat, which is why the list is unalphabetized):
Germantown
Poolesville
Lois P Rockwell
Ronald McNair
Lakewood
Travilah
Farmland
Luxmanor
Beverly Farms
Fallsmead
Wayside
Cold Spring
Cloverly
Little Bennett
Bethesda
Chevy Chase
Somerset
Westbrook
Bradley Hills
North Chevy Chase
Wood Acres
Burning Tree
Bannockburn
Wyngate
Ashburton
Olney
Westover
Barnsley
Belmont
Matsunaga
Diamond
Potomac
Seven Locks
Carderock Springs
Bells Mill
Stone Mill
Cedar Grove
Woodfield
Oakland Terrace
Weller Road
Kensington Parkwood
Forest Knolls
Lots of schools with lots of affluent parents, it's true. But also a meaningful number of schools that aren't like that. What are they doing that Rachel Carson ES isn't doing?
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/quarter-of-mcps-schools-receive-top-rank-in-new-state-accountability-model/
So not all the W schools got 5 stars...interesting. What is going on with Whitman?
Anonymous
12/06/2018 09:30
Subject: MD report cards are out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:RCES got a 71. Seems the cutoff for a 5 is 75, so not that far behind.
Again, almost certainly due to the fact that RCES has about 20% FARMS and is below 50% white.
Really nothing revelatory.
Weller Road ES got a 5, right? <5.0% white, 80% FARMs, 54% ESOL.
Sure, but they're an exception. Basically the scores are a proxy for FARMS and ESOL rates in the schools, like every other metric.
I agree, but that PP was making excuses for RCES only getting a 4. There are actually a few other ES with a highish FARMs rate, low white population that got a 5.
Beall ES -- white 35%, FARMS 25%
Stop making excuses. RCES is a fine school, but you're trying too hard to make excuses as to why it didn't get a 5.
Anonymous
12/06/2018 09:27
Subject: MD report cards are out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:RCES got a 71. Seems the cutoff for a 5 is 75, so not that far behind.
Again, almost certainly due to the fact that RCES has about 20% FARMS and is below 50% white.
Really nothing revelatory.
Weller Road ES got a 5, right? <5.0% white, 80% FARMs, 54% ESOL.
Sure, but they're an exception. Basically the scores are a proxy for FARMS and ESOL rates in the schools, like every other metric.
Not at the elementary school level, they're not. Here are the schools that scored a 5 (from Bethesda Beat, which is why the list is unalphabetized):
Germantown
Poolesville
Lois P Rockwell
Ronald McNair
Lakewood
Travilah
Farmland
Luxmanor
Beverly Farms
Fallsmead
Wayside
Cold Spring
Cloverly
Little Bennett
Bethesda
Chevy Chase
Somerset
Westbrook
Bradley Hills
North Chevy Chase
Wood Acres
Burning Tree
Bannockburn
Wyngate
Ashburton
Olney
Westover
Barnsley
Belmont
Matsunaga
Diamond
Potomac
Seven Locks
Carderock Springs
Bells Mill
Stone Mill
Cedar Grove
Woodfield
Oakland Terrace
Weller Road
Kensington Parkwood
Forest Knolls
Lots of schools with lots of affluent parents, it's true. But also a meaningful number of schools that aren't like that. What are they doing that Rachel Carson ES isn't doing?
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/quarter-of-mcps-schools-receive-top-rank-in-new-state-accountability-model/
Anonymous
12/06/2018 09:19
Subject: MD report cards are out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:RCES got a 71. Seems the cutoff for a 5 is 75, so not that far behind.
Again, almost certainly due to the fact that RCES has about 20% FARMS and is below 50% white.
Really nothing revelatory.
Weller Road ES got a 5, right? <5.0% white, 80% FARMs, 54% ESOL.
Sure, but they're an exception. Basically the scores are a proxy for FARMS and ESOL rates in the schools, like every other metric.
Anonymous
12/06/2018 09:13
Subject: MD report cards are out!
Anonymous wrote:RCES got a 71. Seems the cutoff for a 5 is 75, so not that far behind.
Again, almost certainly due to the fact that RCES has about 20% FARMS and is below 50% white.
Really nothing revelatory.
Weller Road ES got a 5, right? <5.0% white, 80% FARMs, 54% ESOL.
Anonymous
12/06/2018 09:09
Subject: MD report cards are out!
FYI if you want to compare scores with another state, here's NJ's.
https://www.state.nj.us/education/schools/achievement/18/parcc/spring.htm
https://www.state.nj.us/education/schools/achievement/18/parcc/spring.htm
Anonymous
12/06/2018 08:55
Subject: MD report cards are out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:RCES got a 71. Seems the cutoff for a 5 is 75, so not that far behind.
Again, almost certainly due to the fact that RCES has about 20% FARMS and is below 50% white.
Really nothing revelatory.
lol um.. ok.. there are some schools where white population is below 50% and schools got a 5.
Yes, but do those schools have FARMS and ESOL rates as high as RCES?