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Anonymous wrote:I have a probably half-baked theory (the “Watkins-Stuart Hobson Theory”) that the only high SES parents who are willing to send their kids to the higher-poverty schools are both progressive politically AND have rock star students. There are a lot of politically progressive and higher SES families that have students who struggle more, and I suspect many ifnot most of those families bail because of their academic concerns. Thoughts?

We have a rockstar. We worry that she won’t be pushed to her full potential. So we avoid our IB DCPS.

Does she go to another DCPS or a charter or a private?

^^ replacing rockstar

Anonymous wrote:I have a probably half-baked theory (the “Watkins-Stuart Hobson Theory”) that the only high SES parents who are willing to send their kids to the higher-poverty schools are both progressive politically AND have rock star students. There are a lot of politically progressive and higher SES families that have students who struggle more, and I suspect many ifnot most of those families bail because of their academic concerns. Thoughts?

I think this is basically right, but with very solid student relaxing rockstar. For real rockstars, parents start worrying about their kid being pushed enough/comparable peer groups/Ivy League admissions pretty early.

Anonymous wrote:I have a probably half-baked theory (the “Watkins-Stuart Hobson Theory”) that the only high SES parents who are willing to send their kids to the higher-poverty schools are both progressive politically AND have rock star students. There are a lot of politically progressive and higher SES families that have students who struggle more, and I suspect many ifnot most of those families bail because of their academic concerns. Thoughts?

I'm the Bancroft poster... I don't think anyone knows when their kid is starting preK if they'll be a rock star. But I have seen middle class parents whose kids were having social or learning problems leave the school, and maybe that was the best decision for their child. My impression is that it's the kids who are not geniuses but don't need extra help who do best at our school.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a probably half-baked theory (the “Watkins-Stuart Hobson Theory”) that the only high SES parents who are willing to send their kids to the higher-poverty schools are both progressive politically AND have rock star students. There are a lot of politically progressive and higher SES families that have students who struggle more, and I suspect many ifnot most of those families bail because of their academic concerns. Thoughts?

No some parents are just racist idiots at this point. Don't laugh but Stuart Hobson is at least as good as Hardy and will be a Deal before too long

Just look at the stats

Free and Reduced Lunch is in the 30s and dropping
over half of the students are getting 3s or better and there are more 4s than white kids attending
In-bound is still low but rising

LMAO at the person who can make both those statements with a straight face.

yup LMAO seems like you are the racist here lots more black middle class kids in the city than people think

You're even dumber than I thought since very few people do think that. And how many FARMS are not African-American? God, you are dumb.

There are a few Latino poor kids too

Anonymous wrote:No, Ross and Mann are not the schools with programs to replicate -- unless you want to focus on improving Janney and Hearst and Murch, etc.

They start at 2nd / 3rd base because they have very few students who don't know English, who have special needs and whose families live in poverty.

The schools to learn from are those that have more than30-40% at risk whose students are still doing pretty well with 40-50% 4+ on either ELA or Math or both.

There are precious few of those, but they are out there.

Marie Reed ES is a one example
Overall ELA 55% M 47%
Black/AA ELA 45% M 31%
Hisp/Latino ELA 55% M 50%
White and Asian, not enough data to separate

Title 1 school so large percentage of economically disadvantaged and 46% ELL.
Perhaps something to learn from there.

Anonymous wrote:I have a probably half-baked theory (the “Watkins-Stuart Hobson Theory”) that the only high SES parents who are willing to send their kids to the higher-poverty schools are both progressive politically AND have rock star students. There are a lot of politically progressive and higher SES families that have students who struggle more, and I suspect many ifnot most of those families bail because of their academic concerns. Thoughts?

We have a rockstar. We worry that she won’t be pushed to her full potential. So we avoid our IB DCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a probably half-baked theory (the “Watkins-Stuart Hobson Theory”) that the only high SES parents who are willing to send their kids to the higher-poverty schools are both progressive politically AND have rock star students. There are a lot of politically progressive and higher SES families that have students who struggle more, and I suspect many ifnot most of those families bail because of their academic concerns. Thoughts?

No some parents are just racist idiots at this point. Don't laugh but Stuart Hobson is at least as good as Hardy and will be a Deal before too long

Just look at the stats

Free and Reduced Lunch is in the 30s and dropping
over half of the students are getting 3s or better and there are more 4s than white kids attending
In-bound is still low but rising

LMAO at the person who can make both those statements with a straight face.

yup LMAO seems like you are the racist here lots more black middle class kids in the city than people think

You're even dumber than I thought since very few people do think that. And how many FARMS are not African-American? God, you are dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a probably half-baked theory (the “Watkins-Stuart Hobson Theory”) that the only high SES parents who are willing to send their kids to the higher-poverty schools are both progressive politically AND have rock star students. There are a lot of politically progressive and higher SES families that have students who struggle more, and I suspect many ifnot most of those families bail because of their academic concerns. Thoughts?

No some parents are just racist idiots at this point. Don't laugh but Stuart Hobson is at least as good as Hardy and will be a Deal before too long

Just look at the stats

Free and Reduced Lunch is in the 30s and dropping
over half of the students are getting 3s or better and there are more 4s than white kids attending
In-bound is still low but rising

LMAO at the person who can make both those statements with a straight face.

yup LMAO seems like you are the racist here lots more black middle class kids in the city than people think

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Anonymous wrote:I have a probably half-baked theory (the “Watkins-Stuart Hobson Theory”) that the only high SES parents who are willing to send their kids to the higher-poverty schools are both progressive politically AND have rock star students. There are a lot of politically progressive and higher SES families that have students who struggle more, and I suspect many ifnot most of those families bail because of their academic concerns. Thoughts?

No some parents are just racist idiots at this point. Don't laugh but Stuart Hobson is at least as good as Hardy and will be a Deal before too long

Just look at the stats

Free and Reduced Lunch is in the 30s and dropping
over half of the students are getting 3s or better and there are more 4s than white kids attending
In-bound is still low but rising

LMAO at the person who can make both those statements with a straight face.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a probably half-baked theory (the “Watkins-Stuart Hobson Theory”) that the only high SES parents who are willing to send their kids to the higher-poverty schools are both progressive politically AND have rock star students. There are a lot of politically progressive and higher SES families that have students who struggle more, and I suspect many ifnot most of those families bail because of their academic concerns. Thoughts?

No some parents are just racist idiots at this point. Don't laugh but Stuart Hobson is at least as good as Hardy and will be a Deal before too long

Just look at the stats

Free and Reduced Lunch is in the 30s and dropping
over half of the students are getting 3s or better and there are more 4s than white kids attending
In-bound is still low but rising

I think some people are probably uncomfortable with the demographics, but I also think some people have kids that aren't rock stars or good advocates for themselves and parents are worried that the kid will get lost in the shuffle. Our kid isn't a rockstar academically but also didn't bomb and was pretty quiet (so didn't get attention either due to positive or negative behaviours). Kid fell through the cracks at a what's universally well-regarded elementary school and there wasn't enough going in Stuart-Hobson's favor to make us willing to give it a go. All we really wanted was a solid school where there were kids that did excel and everybody else was on grade level (with a few not on grade level because that is just how life goes).

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Anonymous wrote:Easy fix. City wide lottery!

No, because if that happens, all DCPS schools will be shitty.

So— we just want to keep some shitty & continue to talk about the ‘Ross’ methods for success?! ?

It's so typical for people that they would rather drag the successful schools down so they're all equally shitty instead of working to improve what we have.

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Anonymous wrote:Easy fix. City wide lottery!

No, because if that happens, all DCPS schools will be shitty.

So— we just want to keep some shitty & continue to talk about the ‘Ross’ methods for success?! ?

No. You can keep the high performing neighborhood schools AND work to improve the low performing schools at the same time.

Anonymous wrote:I have a probably half-baked theory (the “Watkins-Stuart Hobson Theory”) that the only high SES parents who are willing to send their kids to the higher-poverty schools are both progressive politically AND have rock star students. There are a lot of politically progressive and higher SES families that have students who struggle more, and I suspect many ifnot most of those families bail because of their academic concerns. Thoughts?

No some parents are just racist idiots at this point. Don't laugh but Stuart Hobson is at least as good as Hardy and will be a Deal before too long

Just look at the stats

Free and Reduced Lunch is in the 30s and dropping
over half of the students are getting 3s or better and there are more 4s than white kids attending
In-bound is still low but rising

I have a probably half-baked theory (the “Watkins-Stuart Hobson Theory”) that the only high SES parents who are willing to send their kids to the higher-poverty schools are both progressive politically AND have rock star students. There are a lot of politically progressive and higher SES families that have students who struggle more, and I suspect many ifnot most of those families bail because of their academic concerns. Thoughts?