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Anonymous wrote:There are many issues with boomers that I dislike. But someone said it up front: they don't pay it forward. Ever. This is true of every single boomer I know and that is in my family.

They benefited from parental help, babysitting, inheritances, huge pensions, and other benefits. But, god (bleeping) forbid that any of that is paid forward. They "got theirs", "worked for it", "never expected anything." Twenty reasons why they deserve to be selfish w/o recognizing the benefit handed to them, and help they had, that many people don't have access to (or bestowed on them) now.

I'm GenX. My parents were gifted all kinds of things from their parents/aunts/uncles: big checks at Xmas, free child care for weeks at a time so they could go to the Bahamas or work without having to deal with us, free tuition at parochial school, free bedroom sets for the kids paid for by grandparents, etc. My parents have literally not given me 1 damn bit of assistance since I turned "an adult." Despite being able to do so. I get told "I raised my kids." Even though they did so with a LOT of help. Loads of it.

I never complain to them about it; I just smile to myself at the lack of self-awareness. I've worked my ass off with no help. And I'll never be able to retire at the ages they did with a defined benefit plan (my father was able to retire in his late 40s). And you think they won't think twice about asking me for help when they need it?? LOL. Of course they will. They want it at both ends. They just don't want to give back. Or acknowledge what they've received.

I have no problem with working hard, earning my keep . . . I've been doing that since I was 18. And I started working PT in the summers, etc. when I was 14. That's fine. But, it burns me to hear them talk so sanctimoniously while absolutely being the most self-centered bunch of people.

You have a very narrow pool of people if you know no boomers who have paid it forward. Your comment illustrates why you hate boomers: you have constructed your narrative on how people must live their lives. Twenty years from now you will be making the same whine and still serving inferior cheese with it.

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Anonymous wrote:My parents are boomers who both went to business school, graduated with nothing but debt but then had very successful careers. My siblings and I went to top schools (plus one medical school) and graduated with no debt. They have set up 529's for all of our children, have helped us with bridge loans when buying homes and are very generous with annual gifts. They are incredibly generous with charities and they have helped many families in need. They are incredibly warm and loving plus they have a 40 year marriage that sets a wonderful example for all of us. So, I like boomers!

Shocking news flash: not every Boomer is like your parents. Mine and my ILs haven’t given anyone sh!t since we were 18, despite having the resources to do so. Not saying they owed that to us, so don’t jump all over me, but I will not be like that with my kids.

See, this is what's wrong with you kids. Why do you think they "owe" you anything? Go out and work you lazy a$$.

Jelly much? Maybe if they gave it to you your kids would expect it.
Jelly much? Do if they gave it to you would your kids de
Not PP, and I don't think anyone "owes" their adult children anything. But not all Boomers are "self-made." My husbands' mother had a lot of support from her parents, both financial and otherwise, the ought her life including during her adult years. MIL then inherited 6 figures from her parents after their death when my husband was a teen. She and her former husband didn't pay for anything for their kids once they turned 18, not a cent towards college or purchasing a home or anything. My husband spent all of this 20s and 30s payoff off his student loan debt. And MIL has said she intends to leave nothing behind, despite the fact that she and her current husband have very generous pensions, live in a LCOL area, had that six figure inheritance, and their house is paid off. I really have no idea what they spend their money on. They don't travel or do much of anything really, except eat out a lot and buy lots of "stuff" like essential oils or whatever health/diet fad is current and on projects around the house that they then tear out and re-do in less than a decade. They've done two kitchen remodels and two bathroom renos (to the same bathroom) since 2005. They don't give lavish gifts to their grandchildren. Their attitude toward money is just so bizarre. They feel compelled to spend everything, but on nothing that seems to bring them much happiness for more than a few moments. It's like the money is burning a hole in their pockets and they just have to spend it even if it makes no sense. It seems like poor stewardship of her parents' hard-earned money, as well as poor stewardship of her own money. My husband and I are careful savers because we want to send our children through school debt-free, and leave something behind for their children so they are a little bit better off. I thinks it's weird that my husband's parents don't feel the same way.

I don't think it's weird at all. Letting your kids think that they will inherit your money can cripple them. They will be thinking that they can be financially irresponsible waiting on a free money windfall upon your death.

This IS weird. We're not talking about a sum of money that would allow someone to sit around and wait for it, and we don't need it. We're doing fine without it. It's just wasteful. They are giving it away for stupid STUFF rather than saving it for their grandchildren and great-grandchildren, or even for a good charity or cause.

They're frittering away something that was given to them rather than paying it forward. They invested nothing in educating their own children, or helping them get a leg up, when they had the means to do so and someone did it for them. They also retired at 65 and make more money in retirement than they did when working because they have good pensions AND collect SS. They're not even doing anything fun with it, like travel or nice vacations. It's like watching someone burn money or flush it down the toilet.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many issues with boomers that I dislike. But someone said it up front: they don't pay it forward. Ever. This is true of every single boomer I know and that is in my family.

They benefited from parental help, babysitting, inheritances, huge pensions, and other benefits. But, god (bleeping) forbid that any of that is paid forward. They "got theirs", "worked for it", "never expected anything." Twenty reasons why they deserve to be selfish w/o recognizing the benefit handed to them, and help they had, that many people don't have access to (or bestowed on them) now.

I'm GenX. My parents were gifted all kinds of things from their parents/aunts/uncles: big checks at Xmas, free child care for weeks at a time so they could go to the Bahamas or work without having to deal with us, free tuition at parochial school, free bedroom sets for the kids paid for by grandparents, etc. My parents have literally not given me 1 damn bit of assistance since I turned "an adult." Despite being able to do so. I get told "I raised my kids." Even though they did so with a LOT of help. Loads of it.

I never complain to them about it; I just smile to myself at the lack of self-awareness. I've worked my ass off with no help. And I'll never be able to retire at the ages they did with a defined benefit plan (my father was able to retire in his late 40s). And you think they won't think twice about asking me for help when they need it?? LOL. Of course they will. They want it at both ends. They just don't want to give back. Or acknowledge what they've received.

I have no problem with working hard, earning my keep . . . I've been doing that since I was 18. And I started working PT in the summers, etc. when I was 14. That's fine. But, it burns me to hear them talk so sanctimoniously while absolutely being the most self-centered bunch of people.

I'm sorry your parents are so terrible. You truly deserve better and you should grieve over not getting the parents you deserve. But, I didn't make them act that way. I'm a responsible baby boomer who has given a lot to the next generation (and will continue to do so because this economy sucks for young people). I refuse to take responsibility for the assholes who raised you. But I do hope things get better for you, pp.

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But here's the thing - the Baby Boomers who are in leadership positions in this country are exactly like this. And Baby Boomers keeping voting these assholes into office over and over again - politicians who want to wreck everything for the next generations due to their sheer greed and misanthropy.

Which, of course, leads us to believe that Baby Boomer voters absolutely agree with these amoral leaders.

You can't have it both ways, Baby Boomers. On one hand you say "I'm generous and very caring!" and then vote for Baby Boomers who want to wreck the environment, drastically cut funding to schools/health care/infrastructure, explode deficits for future generations to pay off, and stick our troops in endless wars.

You're talking out both sides of your mouth.

Oh really? And you know that I voted for that politician you detest? Boy, you sure know a lot about me I guess because you've decided who I support politically. Go back and look at the bar chart showing voting patterns. Yes, a majority of baby boomers voted for Trump. And what are you going to say to those of us who didn't? That we deserve to go out on the ice floes along with the Trump voters just because we're the same age? That would make you a bigot, pp. I hope that's not true. But, if your attitudes are reflective of other people in this area, I guess it's good to know that there are people out there who hate me because of my age, regardless of anything else I do with my life.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many issues with boomers that I dislike. But someone said it up front: they don't pay it forward. Ever. This is true of every single boomer I know and that is in my family.

They benefited from parental help, babysitting, inheritances, huge pensions, and other benefits. But, god (bleeping) forbid that any of that is paid forward. They "got theirs", "worked for it", "never expected anything." Twenty reasons why they deserve to be selfish w/o recognizing the benefit handed to them, and help they had, that many people don't have access to (or bestowed on them) now.

I'm GenX. My parents were gifted all kinds of things from their parents/aunts/uncles: big checks at Xmas, free child care for weeks at a time so they could go to the Bahamas or work without having to deal with us, free tuition at parochial school, free bedroom sets for the kids paid for by grandparents, etc. My parents have literally not given me 1 damn bit of assistance since I turned "an adult." Despite being able to do so. I get told "I raised my kids." Even though they did so with a LOT of help. Loads of it.

I never complain to them about it; I just smile to myself at the lack of self-awareness. I've worked my ass off with no help. And I'll never be able to retire at the ages they did with a defined benefit plan (my father was able to retire in his late 40s). And you think they won't think twice about asking me for help when they need it?? LOL. Of course they will. They want it at both ends. They just don't want to give back. Or acknowledge what they've received.

I have no problem with working hard, earning my keep . . . I've been doing that since I was 18. And I started working PT in the summers, etc. when I was 14. That's fine. But, it burns me to hear them talk so sanctimoniously while absolutely being the most self-centered bunch of people.

I'm sorry your parents are so terrible. You truly deserve better and you should grieve over not getting the parents you deserve. But, I didn't make them act that way. I'm a responsible baby boomer who has given a lot to the next generation (and will continue to do so because this economy sucks for young people). I refuse to take responsibility for the assholes who raised you. But I do hope things get better for you, pp.

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But here's the thing - the Baby Boomers who are in leadership positions in this country are exactly like this. And Baby Boomers keeping voting these assholes into office over and over again - politicians who want to wreck everything for the next generations due to their sheer greed and misanthropy.

Which, of course, leads us to believe that Baby Boomer voters absolutely agree with these amoral leaders.

You can't have it both ways, Baby Boomers. On one hand you say "I'm generous and very caring!" and then vote for Baby Boomers who want to wreck the environment, drastically cut funding to schools/health care/infrastructure, explode deficits for future generations to pay off, and stick our troops in endless wars.

You're talking out both sides of your mouth.

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But here's the thing - the Baby Boomers who are in leadership positions in this country are exactly like this. And Baby Boomers keeping voting these assholes into office over and over again - politicians who want to wreck everything for the next generations due to their sheer greed and misanthropy.

Which, of course, leads us to believe that Baby Boomer voters absolutely agree with these amoral leaders.

You can't have it both ways, Baby Boomers. On one hand you say "I'm generous and very caring!" and then vote for Baby Boomers who want to wreck the environment, drastically cut funding to schools/health care/infrastructure, explode deficits for future generations to pay off, and stick our troops in endless wars.

You're talking out both sides of your mouth.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many issues with boomers that I dislike. But someone said it up front: they don't pay it forward. Ever. This is true of every single boomer I know and that is in my family.

They benefited from parental help, babysitting, inheritances, huge pensions, and other benefits. But, god (bleeping) forbid that any of that is paid forward. They "got theirs", "worked for it", "never expected anything." Twenty reasons why they deserve to be selfish w/o recognizing the benefit handed to them, and help they had, that many people don't have access to (or bestowed on them) now.

I'm GenX. My parents were gifted all kinds of things from their parents/aunts/uncles: big checks at Xmas, free child care for weeks at a time so they could go to the Bahamas or work without having to deal with us, free tuition at parochial school, free bedroom sets for the kids paid for by grandparents, etc. My parents have literally not given me 1 damn bit of assistance since I turned "an adult." Despite being able to do so. I get told "I raised my kids." Even though they did so with a LOT of help. Loads of it.

I never complain to them about it; I just smile to myself at the lack of self-awareness. I've worked my ass off with no help. And I'll never be able to retire at the ages they did with a defined benefit plan (my father was able to retire in his late 40s). And you think they won't think twice about asking me for help when they need it?? LOL. Of course they will. They want it at both ends. They just don't want to give back. Or acknowledge what they've received.

I have no problem with working hard, earning my keep . . . I've been doing that since I was 18. And I started working PT in the summers, etc. when I was 14. That's fine. But, it burns me to hear them talk so sanctimoniously while absolutely being the most self-centered bunch of people.

I'm sorry your parents are so terrible. You truly deserve better and you should grieve over not getting the parents you deserve. But, I didn't make them act that way. I'm a responsible baby boomer who has given a lot to the next generation (and will continue to do so because this economy sucks for young people). I refuse to take responsibility for the assholes who raised you. But I do hope things get better for you, pp.

Anonymous wrote:There are many issues with boomers that I dislike. But someone said it up front: they don't pay it forward. Ever. This is true of every single boomer I know and that is in my family.

They benefited from parental help, babysitting, inheritances, huge pensions, and other benefits. But, god (bleeping) forbid that any of that is paid forward. They "got theirs", "worked for it", "never expected anything." Twenty reasons why they deserve to be selfish w/o recognizing the benefit handed to them, and help they had, that many people don't have access to (or bestowed on them) now.

I'm GenX. My parents were gifted all kinds of things from their parents/aunts/uncles: big checks at Xmas, free child care for weeks at a time so they could go to the Bahamas or work without having to deal with us, free tuition at parochial school, free bedroom sets for the kids paid for by grandparents, etc. My parents have literally not given me 1 damn bit of assistance since I turned "an adult." Despite being able to do so. I get told "I raised my kids." Even though they did so with a LOT of help. Loads of it.

I never complain to them about it; I just smile to myself at the lack of self-awareness. I've worked my ass off with no help. And I'll never be able to retire at the ages they did with a defined benefit plan (my father was able to retire in his late 40s). And you think they won't think twice about asking me for help when they need it?? LOL. Of course they will. They want it at both ends. They just don't want to give back. Or acknowledge what they've received.

I have no problem with working hard, earning my keep . . . I've been doing that since I was 18. And I started working PT in the summers, etc. when I was 14. That's fine. But, it burns me to hear them talk so sanctimoniously while absolutely being the most self-centered bunch of people.

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Anonymous wrote:My parents are boomers who both went to business school, graduated with nothing but debt but then had very successful careers. My siblings and I went to top schools (plus one medical school) and graduated with no debt. They have set up 529's for all of our children, have helped us with bridge loans when buying homes and are very generous with annual gifts. They are incredibly generous with charities and they have helped many families in need. They are incredibly warm and loving plus they have a 40 year marriage that sets a wonderful example for all of us. So, I like boomers!

Shocking news flash: not every Boomer is like your parents. Mine and my ILs haven’t given anyone sh!t since we were 18, despite having the resources to do so. Not saying they owed that to us, so don’t jump all over me, but I will not be like that with my kids.

See, this is what's wrong with you kids. Why do you think they "owe" you anything? Go out and work you lazy a$$.

Not PP, and I don't think anyone "owes" their adult children anything. But not all Boomers are "self-made." My husbands' mother had a lot of support from her parents, both financial and otherwise, the ought her life including during her adult years. MIL then inherited 6 figures from her parents after their death when my husband was a teen. She and her former husband didn't pay for anything for their kids once they turned 18, not a cent towards college or purchasing a home or anything. My husband spent all of this 20s and 30s payoff off his student loan debt. And MIL has said she intends to leave nothing behind, despite the fact that she and her current husband have very generous pensions, live in a LCOL area, had that six figure inheritance, and their house is paid off. I really have no idea what they spend their money on. They don't travel or do much of anything really, except eat out a lot and buy lots of "stuff" like essential oils or whatever health/diet fad is current and on projects around the house that they then tear out and re-do in less than a decade. They've done two kitchen remodels and two bathroom renos (to the same bathroom) since 2005. They don't give lavish gifts to their grandchildren. Their attitude toward money is just so bizarre. They feel compelled to spend everything, but on nothing that seems to bring them much happiness for more than a few moments. It's like the money is burning a hole in their pockets and they just have to spend it even if it makes no sense. It seems like poor stewardship of her parents' hard-earned money, as well as poor stewardship of her own money. My husband and I are careful savers because we want to send our children through school debt-free, and leave something behind for their children so they are a little bit better off. I thinks it's weird that my husband's parents don't feel the same way.

I don't think it's weird at all. Letting your kids think that they will inherit your money can cripple them. They will be thinking that they can be financially irresponsible waiting on a free money windfall upon your death.

This IS weird. We're not talking about a sum of money that would allow someone to sit around and wait for it, and we don't need it. We're doing fine without it. It's just wasteful. They are giving it away for stupid STUFF rather than saving it for their grandchildren and great-grandchildren, or even for a good charity or cause.

They're frittering away something that was given to them rather than paying it forward. They invested nothing in educating their own children, or helping them get a leg up, when they had the means to do so and someone did it for them. They also retired at 65 and make more money in retirement than they did when working because they have good pensions AND collect SS. They're not even doing anything fun with it, like travel or nice vacations. It's like watching someone burn money or flush it down the toilet.

DP here, a Millennial:
It is bizarre. It's as if they are spiteful and completely illogical about the money. This would annoy the sh#t out of me as well.
It's as if the Baby Boomers have zero regard for their own legacy. They are going out as if history won't exist after they leave this earth - it's a very revealing attitude.

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Anonymous wrote:My parents are boomers who both went to business school, graduated with nothing but debt but then had very successful careers. My siblings and I went to top schools (plus one medical school) and graduated with no debt. They have set up 529's for all of our children, have helped us with bridge loans when buying homes and are very generous with annual gifts. They are incredibly generous with charities and they have helped many families in need. They are incredibly warm and loving plus they have a 40 year marriage that sets a wonderful example for all of us. So, I like boomers!

Shocking news flash: not every Boomer is like your parents. Mine and my ILs haven’t given anyone sh!t since we were 18, despite having the resources to do so. Not saying they owed that to us, so don’t jump all over me, but I will not be like that with my kids.

See, this is what's wrong with you kids. Why do you think they "owe" you anything? Go out and work you lazy a$$.

Can’t you read? I acknowledged that they don’t owe us anything. But I can point out that they are not generous people, and that I will be different with my children. Reading comprehension. Oh, and I have worked very hard and I am anything but lazy, so STFU.

PP is like the people who give advice on raising kids before having kids. You think now that you will be very different with your children. Wait and see.

Anonymous wrote:There are many issues with boomers that I dislike. But someone said it up front: they don't pay it forward. Ever. This is true of every single boomer I know and that is in my family.

They benefited from parental help, babysitting, inheritances, huge pensions, and other benefits. But, god (bleeping) forbid that any of that is paid forward. They "got theirs", "worked for it", "never expected anything." Twenty reasons why they deserve to be selfish w/o recognizing the benefit handed to them, and help they had, that many people don't have access to (or bestowed on them) now.

I'm GenX. My parents were gifted all kinds of things from their parents/aunts/uncles: big checks at Xmas, free child care for weeks at a time so they could go to the Bahamas or work without having to deal with us, free tuition at parochial school, free bedroom sets for the kids paid for by grandparents, etc. My parents have literally not given me 1 damn bit of assistance since I turned "an adult." Despite being able to do so. I get told "I raised my kids." Even though they did so with a LOT of help. Loads of it.

I never complain to them about it; I just smile to myself at the lack of self-awareness. I've worked my ass off with no help. And I'll never be able to retire at the ages they did with a defined benefit plan (my father was able to retire in his late 40s). And you think they won't think twice about asking me for help when they need it?? LOL. Of course they will. They want it at both ends. They just don't want to give back. Or acknowledge what they've received.

I have no problem with working hard, earning my keep . . . I've been doing that since I was 18. And I started working PT in the summers, etc. when I was 14. That's fine. But, it burns me to hear them talk so sanctimoniously while absolutely being the most self-centered bunch of people.

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Anonymous wrote:My parents are boomers who both went to business school, graduated with nothing but debt but then had very successful careers. My siblings and I went to top schools (plus one medical school) and graduated with no debt. They have set up 529's for all of our children, have helped us with bridge loans when buying homes and are very generous with annual gifts. They are incredibly generous with charities and they have helped many families in need. They are incredibly warm and loving plus they have a 40 year marriage that sets a wonderful example for all of us. So, I like boomers!

Shocking news flash: not every Boomer is like your parents. Mine and my ILs haven’t given anyone sh!t since we were 18, despite having the resources to do so. Not saying they owed that to us, so don’t jump all over me, but I will not be like that with my kids.

See, this is what's wrong with you kids. Why do you think they "owe" you anything? Go out and work you lazy a$$.

Can’t you read? I acknowledged that they don’t owe us anything. But I can point out that they are not generous people, and that I will be different with my children. Reading comprehension. Oh, and I have worked very hard and I am anything but lazy, so STFU.

Anonymous wrote:There are many issues with boomers that I dislike. But someone said it up front: they don't pay it forward. Ever. This is true of every single boomer I know and that is in my family.

They benefited from parental help, babysitting, inheritances, huge pensions, and other benefits. But, god (bleeping) forbid that any of that is paid forward. They "got theirs", "worked for it", "never expected anything." Twenty reasons why they deserve to be selfish w/o recognizing the benefit handed to them, and help they had, that many people don't have access to (or bestowed on them) now.

I'm GenX. My parents were gifted all kinds of things from their parents/aunts/uncles: big checks at Xmas, free child care for weeks at a time so they could go to the Bahamas or work without having to deal with us, free tuition at parochial school, free bedroom sets for the kids paid for by grandparents, etc. My parents have literally not given me 1 damn bit of assistance since I turned "an adult." Despite being able to do so. I get told "I raised my kids." Even though they did so with a LOT of help. Loads of it.

I never complain to them about it; I just smile to myself at the lack of self-awareness. I've worked my ass off with no help. And I'll never be able to retire at the ages they did with a defined benefit plan (my father was able to retire in his late 40s). And you think they won't think twice about asking me for help when they need it?? LOL. Of course they will. They want it at both ends. They just don't want to give back. Or acknowledge what they've received.

I have no problem with working hard, earning my keep . . . I've been doing that since I was 18. And I started working PT in the summers, etc. when I was 14. That's fine. But, it burns me to hear them talk so sanctimoniously while absolutely being the most self-centered bunch of people.

Anonymous wrote:There are many issues with boomers that I dislike. But someone said it up front: they don't pay it forward. Ever. This is true of every single boomer I know and that is in my family.

They benefited from parental help, babysitting, inheritances, huge pensions, and other benefits. But, god (bleeping) forbid that any of that is paid forward. They "got theirs", "worked for it", "never expected anything." Twenty reasons why they deserve to be selfish w/o recognizing the benefit handed to them, and help they had, that many people don't have access to (or bestowed on them) now.

I'm GenX. My parents were gifted all kinds of things from their parents/aunts/uncles: big checks at Xmas, free child care for weeks at a time so they could go to the Bahamas or work without having to deal with us, free tuition at parochial school, free bedroom sets for the kids paid for by grandparents, etc. My parents have literally not given me 1 damn bit of assistance since I turned "an adult." Despite being able to do so. I get told "I raised my kids." Even though they did so with a LOT of help. Loads of it.

I never complain to them about it; I just smile to myself at the lack of self-awareness. I've worked my ass off with no help. And I'll never be able to retire at the ages they did with a defined benefit plan (my father was able to retire in his late 40s). And you think they won't think twice about asking me for help when they need it?? LOL. Of course they will. They want it at both ends. They just don't want to give back. Or acknowledge what they've received.

I have no problem with working hard, earning my keep . . . I've been doing that since I was 18. And I started working PT in the summers, etc. when I was 14. That's fine. But, it burns me to hear them talk so sanctimoniously while absolutely being the most self-centered bunch of people.

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Anonymous wrote:My parents are boomers who both went to business school, graduated with nothing but debt but then had very successful careers. My siblings and I went to top schools (plus one medical school) and graduated with no debt. They have set up 529's for all of our children, have helped us with bridge loans when buying homes and are very generous with annual gifts. They are incredibly generous with charities and they have helped many families in need. They are incredibly warm and loving plus they have a 40 year marriage that sets a wonderful example for all of us. So, I like boomers!

Shocking news flash: not every Boomer is like your parents. Mine and my ILs haven’t given anyone sh!t since we were 18, despite having the resources to do so. Not saying they owed that to us, so don’t jump all over me, but I will not be like that with my kids.

See, this is what's wrong with you kids. Why do you think they "owe" you anything? Go out and work you lazy a$$.