Anonymous
Post 04/18/2018 00:08     Subject: Re:Entering Kindergarten at 6
I’m happy that my child went on time even though she’s young, and would never have this discussion in public. I do feel sorry for the giant kids who look like second graders but are still in kindergarten, and it does make me question the parents’ judgment and values


I wish people would stop calling children "giants" and assuming they're older than the other kids. My child has a birthday that is shortly before the cutoff and went on time, so is actually the youngest in the class almost every year. He is also the tallest in the class almost every year. He is a skinny beanpole and doesn't need anyone calling him a giant.

He is also very athletic and is one of the fastest mile runners in the grade. I'm sure if you saw him you would assume that he was redshirted, but in reality, he is one of the youngest.

So, tallest and athletic doesn't always equate to oldest. And please don't use the word "giant" around your kids- it would be very hurtful if they slipped and used that word in class to describe another child who just happens to be tall.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2018 23:57     Subject: Re:Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:I have not bothered to read most of this thread, but — in consultation with the school and our child’s developmental pediatrician — we have just decided to have our child repeat 1st grade.

Our child is an August birthday, small in size, immature, ASD/ADHD, and struggles with basic classroom routines. Moreover, 1st grade has revealed that our child is also a bit dyslexic—as a result, our child is reading a year behind.

While we’ve always been hesitant to redshirt, after four years of full time education, there has been no narrowing of the gap, despite substantial support from the school (through an IEP), and we’re concerned that, on top of all the other challenges, the reading delay will lower our child’s self-esteem.

So we’ve decided to repeat First, when they’re still teaching the foundations of reading.

But, even with all those factors, this has not been an easy decision.



You might end up needing an alternative school environment for DS. That’s not necessarily a bad thing.

We red shirted our DC for immaturity (pre-K recommended it strongly) and because DC’s older sibling was severely delayed and held back.
DC turned out to be brilliant but was not overly bored in school because elem is boring for everyone, I think (did fun things after school) & then DC went to a challenging private school. DC’s maturity lagged throughout, though we feel okay about colllege for DC next year.
They don’t call it ‘the gift of another year’ for nothing.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2018 23:48     Subject: Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They should have a rule about it. Unless there is a documented reason by a school or doctor, there should be no red shirting.


What’s it to you?

Jerk.


NP here. Because when 6 and then 7 year olds are in K, its unfair to the correctly-aged kids. The older ones get bored, act up and misbehave. Later on they are hitting puberty earlier, are more mature which pulls all the issues of puberty across the grade early.


That doesn’t happen. Kids mature emotionally and physically on the own timetable.
Also, there are always going to be some kids who are older as they are born in different months throughout the year. Her kid will at most be 1-2 months older than some of the oldest kids. And some of the oldest kids might be the least mature.

Get over yourself and mind your own business
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2018 23:35     Subject: Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:Yep - and it dovetails so nicely with the residency cheating thread in terms of who must follow the rules and who is "above" them


No where does it say that if a parent does not send a kid on time they will be fined and the kid will have to go to first grade. With redshirting no one is lying about birthdays. The residency issue is fraud, when you kid begins K is a choice. My kid is two days before cut off. Would be with peers either way.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2018 23:27     Subject: Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The situation is very simple. I am sure there are pros and cons of redshirting. The parents that redshirt think the pros outweigh the costs for their children.
People bashing the redshirting parents are jealous and regret their own decision to not redshirt. The ones that are happy with the decision to send their child ontime could not care less if there are kids that are 12 or 14 months older than their kids.
Stop being jealous, stop trying to make other people feel bad when they are trying to what’s best for their children, just stop. Own your own decision and be happy with YOUR situation.


Bingo! But people certainly have sour grapes, thus a 37 page DCUM redshirting thread every other month.


I think it’s more that redshirting parents are defensive/embarrassed...


Honestly, I thinks it’s just a different view. There is nothing you can say that will discourage people from redshirting. The current system allows it.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2018 22:52     Subject: Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The situation is very simple. I am sure there are pros and cons of redshirting. The parents that redshirt think the pros outweigh the costs for their children.
People bashing the redshirting parents are jealous and regret their own decision to not redshirt. The ones that are happy with the decision to send their child ontime could not care less if there are kids that are 12 or 14 months older than their kids.
Stop being jealous, stop trying to make other people feel bad when they are trying to what’s best for their children, just stop. Own your own decision and be happy with YOUR situation.


Bingo! But people certainly have sour grapes, thus a 37 page DCUM redshirting thread every other month.


I think it’s more that redshirting parents are defensive/embarrassed...


What? Where? Reading comprehension is not your thing I see. Redshirting parents are attacked all the time for “gaming the system” for being “entitled” for doing “bad” to society?

They are defending themselves against being bad mouthed by the anti-redshirting (i.e. parents that wished they redshirted so their kids would not be the youngest in the class)


Multiple parents have said their children are doing fine as the youngest. That’s the whole point. What would they be jealous of?


If that were true, the would not be posting here bashing parents that made a different choice
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2018 22:49     Subject: Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:It is so interesting to see how different cultures can be.

I am in Canada and where I live the cut off is Dec 31st for K. You have to turn 5 by the end of the year. We also have junior kindergarten where you need to be 4 by Dec 31st. In many places, the JK and SK classes are mixed so there are kids from 3 turning 4 to 5 about to the 6 in the class. Some schools keep them separate but all K where I live is play based so ages aren't all the vital.

There is no such thing as red shirting, holding back or repeating K. You go to K on time and then move on with your cohort. Immaturity mostly resolves itself by 3rd grade.


Much better system!
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2018 22:48     Subject: Re:Entering Kindergarten at 6
I have not bothered to read most of this thread, but — in consultation with the school and our child’s developmental pediatrician — we have just decided to have our child repeat 1st grade.

Our child is an August birthday, small in size, immature, ASD/ADHD, and struggles with basic classroom routines. Moreover, 1st grade has revealed that our child is also a bit dyslexic—as a result, our child is reading a year behind.

While we’ve always been hesitant to redshirt, after four years of full time education, there has been no narrowing of the gap, despite substantial support from the school (through an IEP), and we’re concerned that, on top of all the other challenges, the reading delay will lower our child’s self-esteem.

So we’ve decided to repeat First, when they’re still teaching the foundations of reading.

But, even with all those factors, this has not been an easy decision.

Anonymous
Post 04/17/2018 22:48     Subject: Entering Kindergarten at 6
It is so interesting to see how different cultures can be.

I am in Canada and where I live the cut off is Dec 31st for K. You have to turn 5 by the end of the year. We also have junior kindergarten where you need to be 4 by Dec 31st. In many places, the JK and SK classes are mixed so there are kids from 3 turning 4 to 5 about to the 6 in the class. Some schools keep them separate but all K where I live is play based so ages aren't all the vital.

There is no such thing as red shirting, holding back or repeating K. You go to K on time and then move on with your cohort. Immaturity mostly resolves itself by 3rd grade.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2018 22:47     Subject: Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The situation is very simple. I am sure there are pros and cons of redshirting. The parents that redshirt think the pros outweigh the costs for their children.
People bashing the redshirting parents are jealous and regret their own decision to not redshirt. The ones that are happy with the decision to send their child ontime could not care less if there are kids that are 12 or 14 months older than their kids.
Stop being jealous, stop trying to make other people feel bad when they are trying to what’s best for their children, just stop. Own your own decision and be happy with YOUR situation.


Bingo! But people certainly have sour grapes, thus a 37 page DCUM redshirting thread every other month.


I think it’s more that redshirting parents are defensive/embarrassed...


What? Where? Reading comprehension is not your thing I see. Redshirting parents are attacked all the time for “gaming the system” for being “entitled” for doing “bad” to society?

They are defending themselves against being bad mouthed by the anti-redshirting (i.e. parents that wished they redshirted so their kids would not be the youngest in the class)


Multiple parents have said their children are doing fine as the youngest. That’s the whole point. What would they be jealous of?
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2018 22:43     Subject: Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The situation is very simple. I am sure there are pros and cons of redshirting. The parents that redshirt think the pros outweigh the costs for their children.
People bashing the redshirting parents are jealous and regret their own decision to not redshirt. The ones that are happy with the decision to send their child ontime could not care less if there are kids that are 12 or 14 months older than their kids.
Stop being jealous, stop trying to make other people feel bad when they are trying to what’s best for their children, just stop. Own your own decision and be happy with YOUR situation.


We regretted listening to everyone and our child ended up skipping a grade as it made no sense to hold back. I preferred to give my child the benefit of being challenged and still achieving.


Great I am glad it worked out for your child in the end
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2018 22:42     Subject: Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The situation is very simple. I am sure there are pros and cons of redshirting. The parents that redshirt think the pros outweigh the costs for their children.
People bashing the redshirting parents are jealous and regret their own decision to not redshirt. The ones that are happy with the decision to send their child ontime could not care less if there are kids that are 12 or 14 months older than their kids.
Stop being jealous, stop trying to make other people feel bad when they are trying to what’s best for their children, just stop. Own your own decision and be happy with YOUR situation.


Bingo! But people certainly have sour grapes, thus a 37 page DCUM redshirting thread every other month.


I think it’s more that redshirting parents are defensive/embarrassed...


What? Where? Reading comprehension is not your thing I see. Redshirting parents are attacked all the time for “gaming the system” for being “entitled” for doing “bad” to society?

They are defending themselves against being bad mouthed by the anti-redshirting (i.e. parents that wished they redshirted so their kids would not be the youngest in the class)
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2018 22:41     Subject: Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:The situation is very simple. I am sure there are pros and cons of redshirting. The parents that redshirt think the pros outweigh the costs for their children.
People bashing the redshirting parents are jealous and regret their own decision to not redshirt. The ones that are happy with the decision to send their child ontime could not care less if there are kids that are 12 or 14 months older than their kids.
Stop being jealous, stop trying to make other people feel bad when they are trying to what’s best for their children, just stop. Own your own decision and be happy with YOUR situation.


We regretted listening to everyone and our child ended up skipping a grade as it made no sense to hold back. I preferred to give my child the benefit of being challenged and still achieving.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2018 22:39     Subject: Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The situation is very simple. I am sure there are pros and cons of redshirting. The parents that redshirt think the pros outweigh the costs for their children.
People bashing the redshirting parents are jealous and regret their own decision to not redshirt. The ones that are happy with the decision to send their child ontime could not care less if there are kids that are 12 or 14 months older than their kids.
Stop being jealous, stop trying to make other people feel bad when they are trying to what’s best for their children, just stop. Own your own decision and be happy with YOUR situation.


I’m happy that my child went on time even though she’s young, and would never have this discussion in public. I do feel sorry for the giant kids who look like second graders but are still in kindergarten, and it does make me question the parents’ judgment and values.


IF YOU ARE HAPPY, WHY DO YOU CARE?!?!?!


Because it’s annoying that we live in a culture where upper middle class white people so often think the rules shouldn’t apply to them. It’s a symptom of entitlement that’s unfortunate for everyone, even if it doesn’t affect my child personally.


The rules DO apply to everyone. A child must be younger than 7 when entering K. I have not seen an 8 year old in K. On top of that in DC PK is free so everyone can redshirt. There is no discussion here. No entitlement. Just parents trying to do what they think itMs best for their kids.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2018 22:39     Subject: Entering Kindergarten at 6
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The situation is very simple. I am sure there are pros and cons of redshirting. The parents that redshirt think the pros outweigh the costs for their children.
People bashing the redshirting parents are jealous and regret their own decision to not redshirt. The ones that are happy with the decision to send their child ontime could not care less if there are kids that are 12 or 14 months older than their kids.
Stop being jealous, stop trying to make other people feel bad when they are trying to what’s best for their children, just stop. Own your own decision and be happy with YOUR situation.


Bingo! But people certainly have sour grapes, thus a 37 page DCUM redshirting thread every other month.


I think it’s more that redshirting parents are defensive/embarrassed...