Anonymous
Post 02/21/2018 12:22     Subject: Re:FCPS Ready to Screw Poorer/GenEd Kids Again
Eliminating LLIV at Thoreau would help solve the issue at Jackson.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2018 12:10     Subject: FCPS Ready to Screw Poorer/GenEd Kids Again
Anonymous wrote:You bought a house in a "4" school zone. Why are you just tealizing that now and trying to pretend it isn't?


Jackson is currently rated a "6" and was probably a 7 or 8 before the latest change in the GS methodology.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2018 11:44     Subject: FCPS Ready to Screw Poorer/GenEd Kids Again
Anonymous wrote:You bought a house in a "4" school zone. Why are you just tealizing that now and trying to pretend it isn't?


What are you talking about? Great Schools hasn't been around that long and fluctuates every year. It is the responsibility of the School Board an Board of Supervisors to try to better equalize school districts and neighborhoods. What is your solution?
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2018 11:33     Subject: FCPS Ready to Screw Poorer/GenEd Kids Again
Realizing
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2018 11:32     Subject: FCPS Ready to Screw Poorer/GenEd Kids Again
You bought a house in a "4" school zone. Why are you just tealizing that now and trying to pretend it isn't?
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2018 11:30     Subject: FCPS Ready to Screw Poorer/GenEd Kids Again
Anonymous wrote:Some people are just trying to resolve the single issue of where to put the excess students at Jackson. Some people are trying to define the problem much bigger: how to improve the reputation/test scores of the entire Falls Church pyramid.


How about just maintaining their reputation and test score levels? Improvement would be great and is necessary, however I'm more worried right now about a decline.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2018 11:26     Subject: FCPS Ready to Screw Poorer/GenEd Kids Again
Anonymous wrote:Some people are just trying to resolve the single issue of where to put the excess students at Jackson. Some people are trying to define the problem much bigger: how to improve the reputation/test scores of the entire Falls Church pyramid.


Some people are just pretending that moving a number of the highest-income neighborhoods zoned for Jackson to Thoreau won't have a detrimental impact on both Jackson and Falls Church.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2018 11:25     Subject: FCPS Ready to Screw Poorer/GenEd Kids Again
Some people are just trying to resolve the single issue of where to put the excess students at Jackson. Some people are trying to define the problem much bigger: how to improve the reputation/test scores of the entire Falls Church pyramid.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2018 11:09     Subject: Re:FCPS Ready to Screw Poorer/GenEd Kids Again
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:the nicer neighborhoods in that area moved there?


Higher end areas were moved out of Hayfield and into South County. Leaving the crappy parts of Lorton still in Hayfield even though they are much closer to the physical building that is South County HS. The pyramid boundaries look like one of those gerrymandered GOP districts.


Hayfield is not near that 45% and over FARMS rate which is probably why it has remained steady.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2018 10:54     Subject: Re:FCPS Ready to Screw Poorer/GenEd Kids Again
10:50. Either way then, FCPS should be looking at Jackson and Falls Church to see how they can prevent those schools from falling further into poverty. I'm not familiar with what neighborhoods would be affected by this, but unless the new school somehow provides less poverty through redistricting at Jackson and Falls Church, it is a moot point.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2018 10:50     Subject: Re:FCPS Ready to Screw Poorer/GenEd Kids Again
Anonymous wrote:How would the new elementary school affect Jackson? Do you think they would go to Lanier instead? I'm not following.


I don't have any specifics, this is just educated guess. That the current OES and Mosby Woods students that go to Jackson could be rezoned to this new elementary school and a different middle school (like Lanier) in the process.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2018 10:45     Subject: Re:FCPS Ready to Screw Poorer/GenEd Kids Again
How would the new elementary school affect Jackson? Do you think they would go to Lanier instead? I'm not following.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2018 10:42     Subject: Re:FCPS Ready to Screw Poorer/GenEd Kids Again
Anonymous wrote:10:32. My question is how would a new elementary school affect Jackson and Falls Church for the better in the future?


I was just thinking that OES and Mosby Woods may be leaving Jackson either through the current rezoning proposal or the new elementary school. And so, it's not worth the fight to keep them at Jackson.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2018 10:37     Subject: Re:FCPS Ready to Screw Poorer/GenEd Kids Again
10:32. My question is how would a new elementary school affect Jackson and Falls Church for the better in the future?
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2018 10:32     Subject: Re:FCPS Ready to Screw Poorer/GenEd Kids Again
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How would that school impact Jackson and Falls Church? FCPS realizes there is an issue at Annandale and haven't done anything. I doubt they will go back once the decision has been made.


It's relevant to Jackson/Falls Church for at least two reasons:

1) Part of the solution to overcrowding at Jackson could be to move students at Poe, which shares a boundary with Jackson. Doing so could relieve overcrowding at Jackson and reduce the poverty rates at Poe, since the neighborhoods that could be considered have higher-than-average FARMS rates for Jackson and lower-than-average FARMS rates for Poe

2) The Annandale/Poe experience illustrates what happens when you make incremental boundary changes at schools like Jackson that already have high ESOL/FARMS rates. It's viewed as a sign of benign neglect by FCPS, and you end up with more poverty at schools with lower than expected enrollments.


What does this have to do with an elementary school in north Oakton?


I'm not sure where you got north Oakton. I was talking about the Oakton/Fairfax elementary school proposed in the latest CIP that slots Vienna, Mosby Woods, Oakton, Waples Mills, Daniels Run and Providence elementary schools as possibly being affected. Since both Oakton and Mosby Woods are part of this Jackson boundary change, I was wondering if the new elementary school would affect middle school boundaries as well. Maybe I am thinking too far ahead, but just a thought.