Anonymous wrote:LOL what a joke. How many non-URMs are Yale and Harvard or Yale and Stanford cross-admits a year? Probably fewer than 100.

actually there have to be over 600 or so HYPSM cross admits, just by looking at how many people turn down a HYPSM school. (HYPSM lose the vast majority of their cross admits to each other). I highly doubt only 100 out o 600-700 kids are white.

Anonymous wrote:At my daughter’s progressive private school, there are six ED applications to Brown and zero to Harvard and Stanford (Yale has one). No one is particularly interested in being part of the military industrial complex.

Very sad private school that must be.

LOL what a joke. How many non-URMs are Yale and Harvard or Yale and Stanford cross-admits a year? Probably fewer than 100.

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Anonymous wrote:"Safety" compared to all other ivies besides Cornell, not places like WashU or GU or Emory of course.

So, having a higher admissions rate makes it is a "safety" relative to six other colleges... and not the other 3,000?

That is not a definition of a safety I have ever heard. It's not a sensible statement. By that logic, Yale is a "safety" for Stanford applicants. Please stop trolling.

Safety is not the best word but what people mean here is that students choose other places if they get the chance. Desirability is not dependent just on admissions rate. At GDS most students jump at the chance of attending another ivy other than Brown and Cornell if they have the option. Tis is def true. And yes, Yale is a safety to Harvard/Stanford in the sense that most people would jump at the chance of attending one of the latter over the former. This is not controversial.

You may be an imbecile but more likely a moron.

Forbes...

Brown #9 (ahead of Columbia, Dartmouth, Chicago, Williams)

https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/list/

Our DC is at what has been ranked as the #1 high school in the country and opted to go ED to Brown. Not Yale, not Harvard, not Princeton -- liked Brown.

Did it occur to you that it may be the number one school in a location that is not in Washington DC? And since it’s not in DC or the surrounding suburbs, kids have a much better track recordgetting into top schools like Brown. You should get out of your DC bubble once in a while.

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Anonymous wrote:At my daughter’s progressive private school, there are six ED applications to Brown and zero to Harvard and Stanford (Yale has one). No one is particularly interested in being part of the military industrial complex.

code for mediocre private.

+1 if there are no kids at your private who are ambitious or qualified enough to be gunning for HYPS SCEA, then it is probably a fledgling private. Any (actually) elite private has a bunch of HYPS SCEA applicants each year

Anonymous wrote:At my daughter’s progressive private school, there are six ED applications to Brown and zero to Harvard and Stanford (Yale has one). No one is particularly interested in being part of the military industrial complex.

code for mediocre private.

At my daughter’s progressive private school, there are six ED applications to Brown and zero to Harvard and Stanford (Yale has one). No one is particularly interested in being part of the military industrial complex.

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Safety is not the best word but what people mean here is that students choose other places if they get the chance. Desirability is not dependent just on admissions rate. At GDS most students jump at the chance of attending another ivy other than Brown and Cornell if they have the option. Tis is def true. And yes, Yale is a safety to Harvard/Stanford in the sense that most people would jump at the chance of attending one of the latter over the former. This is not controversial.

Agreed it is not controversial, and in fact so much so it is nonsensical, as in "People often prefer what they prefer to what they don't prefer". News flash: That's the case at GDS and every school on the planet. I do not believe that was was trying to be said, which was essentially "GDS students think little of Brown and it's the bottom of the barrel for them". The data shows this is false. They go there and also to schools with far lower yields and 75th percentiles.

Anonymous wrote: And yes, Yale is a safety to Harvard/Stanford in the sense that most people would jump at the chance of attending one of the latter over the former.

You do not understand what a safety is.

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Anonymous wrote:"Safety" compared to all other ivies besides Cornell, not places like WashU or GU or Emory of course.

So, having a higher admissions rate makes it is a "safety" relative to six other colleges... and not the other 3,000?

That is not a definition of a safety I have ever heard. It's not a sensible statement. By that logic, Yale is a "safety" for Stanford applicants. Please stop trolling.

Safety is not the best word but what people mean here is that students choose other places if they get the chance. Desirability is not dependent just on admissions rate. At GDS most students jump at the chance of attending another ivy other than Brown and Cornell if they have the option. Tis is def true. And yes, Yale is a safety to Harvard/Stanford in the sense that most people would jump at the chance of attending one of the latter over the former. This is not controversial.

Anonymous wrote:"Safety" compared to all other ivies besides Cornell, not places like WashU or GU or Emory of course.

So, having a higher admissions rate makes it is a "safety" relative to six other colleges... and not the other 3,000?

That is not a definition of a safety I have ever heard. It's not a sensible statement. By that logic, Yale is a "safety" for Stanford applicants. Please stop trolling.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused about what these lists actually prove.

The ridiculous idea that Brown is a "safety" for GDS students when the vast majority go to lower ranked (but still excellent) schools.

18 to WashU gets at your point perfectly.

"Safety" compared to all other ivies besides Cornell, not places like WashU or GU or Emory of course.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused about what these lists actually prove.

The ridiculous idea that Brown is a "safety" for GDS students when the vast majority go to lower ranked (but still excellent) schools.

18 to WashU gets at your point perfectly.