Anonymous wrote:You're so sporty in your sport utility vehicle.

And you look so cool in your skintight shorts on your trike. A regular James Dean.

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When the vast majority of people commute using cars, and lanes were designed to fit cars, not tricycles, then of course you are congesting and causing the roads. You, of course, know this, unless you have some kind of cognitive difficulty, and that's where the deliberate obtuseness comes into play. You're not fooling anyone, and simply causing the already rampant hatred of tricyclists to grow.

Lanes are designed to fit trucks, actually. Cars don't need 12-foot lanes. People should keep their cars off the road; they get in the way of trucks.

The vast majority of people commute using cars. You are congesting and clogging the road on your tricycle. And making yourself look like an ass.

This is why I run a camera on my helmet. Drivers should be aware that if they participate in dangerous and illegal behavior they may be held to account.

The PC thing is to say that bikers have as much right to the road as a car,

That is not the PC thing. Other than on limited access highways, it is the law in DC and Virginia (and on any road without a bike lane in Md)

but the reality is that the roads are designed for vehicular traffic,

They are not designed for SUV's, or for current volumes of traffic, and in many places for people to cross the street. We are not limited to what they were designed for (though planners are trying to change those designs)

and city planners bank on being able to move a certain number of vehicles in a given amount of time.

In almost every jurisdiction in greater DC city planners bank on getting more people to commute by bike, by walking and on transit, and fewer by car.

Legally, a car can drive 10-15 miles below the speed limit on a highway, but that has a massive effect on traffic flow.

Legally off a grade separated highway, there are no minimum speed limits. Its illegal to deliberately obstruct traffic, but a vehicle, whether bicycle, work vehicles, or amish buggy going as fast as it can is within the law

A bike isn't much different especially since there are timed traffic lights on roads.

Bikes are different because they typically are on faster roads only for short sections, and even there can (where there is an unoccupied parking lane) swerve to the side to let faster vehicles (a technique called lock and release, which I use, though only where I consider it safe to do so)

Unfortunately, short of banning bikes during rush hour (which wouldn't work), there isn't a viable solution.

There are multiple solutions. One is to add appropriate bike infrastructure to every fast road. A second is to provide connections between quiet streets that currently dead end, so there are alternative routes for riders. A third that makes sense esp where there are a lot of pedestrians, is to lower speed limits.

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When the vast majority of people commute using cars, and lanes were designed to fit cars, not tricycles, then of course you are congesting and causing the roads. You, of course, know this, unless you have some kind of cognitive difficulty, and that's where the deliberate obtuseness comes into play. You're not fooling anyone, and simply causing the already rampant hatred of tricyclists to grow.

Lanes are designed to fit trucks, actually. Cars don't need 12-foot lanes. People should keep their cars off the road; they get in the way of trucks.

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Just to be safe, I will lay on my horn loudly, to ensure a tricyclist like yourself is not caught unawares and wanders into my path. Very thoughtful of me, I think. Get ready.

No, it's illegal. At least in Maryland. It's also dangerous and aggressive.

You're so sporty in your sport utility vehicle.

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Absolutely no comparison to the slowness added by one car vs one bike. You're holding up traffic, being deliberately obtuse and smug about it, and then you wonder why cars hate you and honk at you. You get what you give.

When you're spending all that time in traffic, it's not because of people on bikes. It's because of you in your car, and me in my car, and all those other people in their cars, all trying to go places in our cars at the same time.

And then, of course, there are buses, which stop and hold up the cars behind them. And people crossing the street on foot -- when I'm driving and stop at a crosswalk (as the law requires) to let people walk across, often other people in cars have to stop behind me. Are people on buses and people on foot also being deliberately obtuse, smug, and obstructionist (of people in cars)?

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Anonymous wrote:It is true that you will rarely go to jail for vehicular manslaughter.

My point is that the cyclists I see are clearly NOT on the way to work. They are just exercising. In the middle of the road. During rush hour. It is extremely inconsiderate. Given you aren't going to work so don't have to be anywhere anytime soon, why don't you ride your tricycle to an actual, I don't know, BIKE PATH, so you can roam free among your people???

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Btw, i walk a lot on a bike path which is right by my house, and heaven help those who get in the way of the tricyclists. They will FREAK OUT and try to physically intimidate you into moving.

BUT if a car dishes right back, of course that is COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.


I just don't care anymore. You want to bike on the road, fine. I'll just move my car a few inches to the side and sail past, IDGAF. Tricyclists are the worst people.

I can't speak for tricyclists, as I ride a bicycle (are you referring to little kids, or to folks who ride recumbent bikes)

On trails I call my passes or ring my bell, then go to the far side of the yellow line to pass. Are you perhaps thinking that ringing the bell is an attempt to intimidate you? It is not. It is an attempt to WARN you, so you don't wander into the passing lane (as some pedestrians do)

You being a tricyclist, I guess you won't mind me loudly laying on my horn as a courteous warning to you not to wander into my side of the road (as some tricyclists do)

1. I havent ridden a tricycle since I was 3 years old. What are you going on about?

2. I never see bike riders wandering across the line into the opposite lane. You do realize that mindless parallelism is not a form of argument?

Just to be safe, I will lay on my horn loudly, to ensure a tricyclist like yourself is not caught unawares and wanders into my path. Very thoughtful of me, I think. Get ready.

Anonymous wrote:The same a$$hole drivers bitching about the cyclist who "inconveniences" them are the same ones bitching about the guy in front going "too slow" even though s/he is going the speed limit.

No, we most certainly aren't.

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Anonymous wrote:Stick to bike lanes and bike trails. We won't have a problem.

Stick to driving on interstate highways, where bikes are banned, and we won't have a problem.

No thanks. I'll give you a wide berth of 6 inches and honk as I veer around you. No problem for me either way.

If you hit someone you will be liable, as that is a violation of the law in all local jurisdictions.

And let's be real, nothing will happen. To me at least.

Are you planning on sticking around after you hit them, or planning a hit and run?

Stick around and help peel em off the road, of course.

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Anonymous wrote:Bikers are disgusting and the entitlement and lack of concern they show for others is truly staggering.

Because?

Because they block major thoroughfares knowing full well the vast number of people it will inconvenience and cause to be late.

Your car does that too.

My car is capable of keeping up with the speed of traffic, so no it doesn't. Wishful thinking, trike.

It still slows traffic by adding to congestion, and when you do that lovely gridlock thing, its a lot worse.

Absolutely no comparison to the slowness added by one car vs one bike. You're holding up traffic, being deliberately obtuse and smug about it, and then you wonder why cars hate you and honk at you. You get what you give.

I am not smug, and am certainly not deliberately obtuse - and as I said, the places where I ride in the street I am not significantly slowing traffic, and in fact most of my ride removes me from traffic. Again, its a settled fact in transportation that you can fit more cyclists in a growing congested place than more cars.

When the vast majority of people commute using cars, and lanes were designed to fit cars, not tricycles, then of course you are congesting and causing the roads. You, of course, know this, unless you have some kind of cognitive difficulty, and that's where the deliberate obtuseness comes into play. You're not fooling anyone, and simply causing the already rampant hatred of tricyclists to grow.

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Anonymous wrote:Hmmm.. I think roads were paved so that CARS could drive on them. At some point cyclists decided they had a right to muscle in on the roads built for CARS. It is so annoying.

You think wrong. Roads were paved for cyclists. Cars came later.

Maybe your whole paradigm is wrong?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2011/aug/15/cyclists-paved-way-for-roads

cyclist should use the sidewalk

Illegal in downtown DC and in parts of Old Town Alexandria. And a generally poor idea in most places - sidewalks are dangerous for cyclists, and sidewalk riding (other than on particularly wide sidepaths) is a threat to pedestrians.

The same a$$hole drivers bitching about the cyclist who "inconveniences" them are the same ones bitching about the guy in front going "too slow" even though s/he is going the speed limit.

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Anonymous wrote:It is true that you will rarely go to jail for vehicular manslaughter.

My point is that the cyclists I see are clearly NOT on the way to work. They are just exercising. In the middle of the road. During rush hour. It is extremely inconsiderate. Given you aren't going to work so don't have to be anywhere anytime soon, why don't you ride your tricycle to an actual, I don't know, BIKE PATH, so you can roam free among your people???

+100000

Btw, i walk a lot on a bike path which is right by my house, and heaven help those who get in the way of the tricyclists. They will FREAK OUT and try to physically intimidate you into moving.

BUT if a car dishes right back, of course that is COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.


I just don't care anymore. You want to bike on the road, fine. I'll just move my car a few inches to the side and sail past, IDGAF. Tricyclists are the worst people.

I can't speak for tricyclists, as I ride a bicycle (are you referring to little kids, or to folks who ride recumbent bikes)

On trails I call my passes or ring my bell, then go to the far side of the yellow line to pass. Are you perhaps thinking that ringing the bell is an attempt to intimidate you? It is not. It is an attempt to WARN you, so you don't wander into the passing lane (as some pedestrians do)

You being a tricyclist, I guess you won't mind me loudly laying on my horn as a courteous warning to you not to wander into my side of the road (as some tricyclists do)

1. I havent ridden a tricycle since I was 3 years old. What are you going on about?

2. I never see bike riders wandering across the line into the opposite lane. You do realize that mindless parallelism is not a form of argument?