Anonymous
03/01/2020 09:37
Subject: hard to get into Duke Ellington?
It’s not that hard to get in if you are a PG County resident.
Anonymous
02/29/2020 22:34
Subject: hard to get into Duke Ellington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the real deal - despite the fact that Game of Thrones was the top story on every news show for a week, water cooler conversations begin and end with what came on TV, we all talk about certain music being the soundtrack of our lives, Amazon got popular by selling books and millions of people come to DC to visit museums, we still have only one school for 50 miles that takes training young people in those fields seriously. Yet we complain that 40-something slots go (legally) to MD.VA residents who pay tuition. Should we not be asking why the hell those areas don't have a similar program? Why DC only has one? Why do people want to dumb it down by adding students who are not serious about the arts? Why the city was willing to overspend on a building but not fully fund the arts education? These are the real questions.
Amen.
+1
I agree in part. But the arts is not just not job training. There is a flaw in thinking about and doing arts education in DC - it is so thought of as a pre professional or industry entry pathway. This is why DCPS does not take it seriously enough because art education is job training. Art for arts sake would be taking art seriously. To be "serious about the arts" does not need to mean that you aspire as a 10th grader to get a job in the arts.
To get a job or study an art in college.
Let’s put it another way. Ellington’s program requires 3 hrs a day x 180 school days x 4 years in one discipline, on top of your academic work. Is it the only to be serious about art - absolutely not. But for those who want it, and who often don’t have the resources to pursue arts through private lessons and so forth, it is a great option.
Anonymous
06/07/2019 07:15
Subject: hard to get into Duke Ellington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the real deal - despite the fact that Game of Thrones was the top story on every news show for a week, water cooler conversations begin and end with what came on TV, we all talk about certain music being the soundtrack of our lives, Amazon got popular by selling books and millions of people come to DC to visit museums, we still have only one school for 50 miles that takes training young people in those fields seriously. Yet we complain that 40-something slots go (legally) to MD.VA residents who pay tuition. Should we not be asking why the hell those areas don't have a similar program? Why DC only has one? Why do people want to dumb it down by adding students who are not serious about the arts? Why the city was willing to overspend on a building but not fully fund the arts education? These are the real questions.
Amen.
I agree in part. But the arts is not just not job training. There is a flaw in thinking about and doing arts education in DC - it is so thought of as a pre professional or industry entry pathway. This is why DCPS does not take it seriously enough because art education is job training. Art for arts sake would be taking art seriously. To be "serious about the arts" does not need to mean that you aspire as a 10th grader to get a job in the arts.
To get a job or study an art in college.
Let’s put it another way. Ellington’s program requires 3 hrs a day x 180 school days x 4 years in one discipline, on top of your academic work. Is it the only to be serious about art - absolutely not. But for those who want it, and who often don’t have the resources to pursue arts through private lessons and so forth, it is a great option.
Anonymous
06/06/2019 14:33
Subject: hard to get into Duke Ellington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the real deal - despite the fact that Game of Thrones was the top story on every news show for a week, water cooler conversations begin and end with what came on TV, we all talk about certain music being the soundtrack of our lives, Amazon got popular by selling books and millions of people come to DC to visit museums, we still have only one school for 50 miles that takes training young people in those fields seriously. Yet we complain that 40-something slots go (legally) to MD.VA residents who pay tuition. Should we not be asking why the hell those areas don't have a similar program? Why DC only has one? Why do people want to dumb it down by adding students who are not serious about the arts? Why the city was willing to overspend on a building but not fully fund the arts education? These are the real questions.
Amen.
I agree in part. But the arts is not just not job training. There is a flaw in thinking about and doing arts education in DC - it is so thought of as a pre professional or industry entry pathway. This is why DCPS does not take it seriously enough because art education is job training. Art for arts sake would be taking art seriously. To be "serious about the arts" does not need to mean that you aspire as a 10th grader to get a job in the arts.
Anonymous
06/01/2019 11:36
Subject: hard to get into Duke Ellington?
Anonymous wrote:Here's the real deal - despite the fact that Game of Thrones was the top story on every news show for a week, water cooler conversations begin and end with what came on TV, we all talk about certain music being the soundtrack of our lives, Amazon got popular by selling books and millions of people come to DC to visit museums, we still have only one school for 50 miles that takes training young people in those fields seriously. Yet we complain that 40-something slots go (legally) to MD.VA residents who pay tuition. Should we not be asking why the hell those areas don't have a similar program? Why DC only has one? Why do people want to dumb it down by adding students who are not serious about the arts? Why the city was willing to overspend on a building but not fully fund the arts education? These are the real questions.
Amen.
Anonymous
06/01/2019 10:31
Subject: hard to get into Duke Ellington?
Here's the real deal - despite the fact that Game of Thrones was the top story on every news show for a week, water cooler conversations begin and end with what came on TV, we all talk about certain music being the soundtrack of our lives, Amazon got popular by selling books and millions of people come to DC to visit museums, we still have only one school for 50 miles that takes training young people in those fields seriously. Yet we complain that 40-something slots go (legally) to MD.VA residents who pay tuition. Should we not be asking why the hell those areas don't have a similar program? Why DC only has one? Why do people want to dumb it down by adding students who are not serious about the arts? Why the city was willing to overspend on a building but not fully fund the arts education? These are the real questions.
Anonymous
05/29/2019 09:11
Subject: hard to get into Duke Ellington?
Anonymous wrote:+1Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The pp who mentioned the regional pull of Ellington has a good point. Maryland and Virginia have schools with advanced academic programs but Ellington is unique in the area so of course it attracts OOS students. And they’re below their 10% cap. And probably those OOS students who beat out a DC student for admission were just plain better. So if you have a problem with this, contact your city government.
~mom of a former white DC Ellington student
So this should be the deal: DC will only admit some MD and VA students to Ellington if VA takes a certain number of DC students into TJ high school and DCstidents get access to MoCo’s top magnet. Otherwise we’re just suckers.
This. It’s still a head scratcher why DC taxpayers have to subsidize an education for out-of-state students, when DC council members are taking about tax increase because they say that DC needs revenue, including for the schools. (And then there’s the full subsidy for students who are fraudulently enrolled in Ellington and other DC schools.)
+1.
Systemic corruption will only end with a new Mayor who's not part of the local Dem machine.
We've become worse than Chicago.
Having a legal policy that you don't like - in this case allowing up to 10% of students who pass the audition from OOS - is not evidence of systemic corruption. There is corruption in DC, but this isn't an instance of it.
This. This is a case of sour grapes.
I met a student from Ellington a few months ago and was absolutely stunned by her work. I assume she is a District resident, but could care less if she's not. The girl is gifted and I'm thankful that there's a place for kids like her in our area.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 21:38
Subject: hard to get into Duke Ellington?
You're not exactly subsidizing the 10% since those people pay tuition that equals the per-pupil fee. If anything the city breaks even on those slots. But you do touch on a more effective solution, which would really be to limit the number of kids from each county and for students to apply to their county for the cost to go to Ellington since those counties do not provide arts education. Any county with an equal arts education should not be eligible.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 13:58
Subject: hard to get into Duke Ellington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The pp who mentioned the regional pull of Ellington has a good point. Maryland and Virginia have schools with advanced academic programs but Ellington is unique in the area so of course it attracts OOS students. And they’re below their 10% cap. And probably those OOS students who beat out a DC student for admission were just plain better. So if you have a problem with this, contact your city government.
~mom of a former white DC Ellington student
So this should be the deal: DC will only admit some MD and VA students to Ellington if VA takes a certain number of DC students into TJ high school and DCstidents get access to MoCo’s top magnet. Otherwise we’re just suckers.
This. It’s still a head scratcher why DC taxpayers have to subsidize an education for out-of-state students, when DC council members are taking about tax increase because they say that DC needs revenue, including for the schools. (And then there’s the full subsidy for students who are fraudulently enrolled in Ellington and other DC schools.)
Perhaps you could work out an exchange. Otherwise, those kids from DC who went to TJ would have to pay tuition. But honestly with all the issues with DCPS and more broadly education in the city, is this the hill to die on?
A lot of parents who would like to see a second WOTP high school ask if the location in Burleith is the hill to put Ellington on!
Anonymous
05/28/2019 11:52
Subject: hard to get into Duke Ellington?
+1Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The pp who mentioned the regional pull of Ellington has a good point. Maryland and Virginia have schools with advanced academic programs but Ellington is unique in the area so of course it attracts OOS students. And they’re below their 10% cap. And probably those OOS students who beat out a DC student for admission were just plain better. So if you have a problem with this, contact your city government.
~mom of a former white DC Ellington student
So this should be the deal: DC will only admit some MD and VA students to Ellington if VA takes a certain number of DC students into TJ high school and DCstidents get access to MoCo’s top magnet. Otherwise we’re just suckers.
This. It’s still a head scratcher why DC taxpayers have to subsidize an education for out-of-state students, when DC council members are taking about tax increase because they say that DC needs revenue, including for the schools. (And then there’s the full subsidy for students who are fraudulently enrolled in Ellington and other DC schools.)
+1.
Systemic corruption will only end with a new Mayor who's not part of the local Dem machine.
We've become worse than Chicago.
Having a legal policy that you don't like - in this case allowing up to 10% of students who pass the audition from OOS - is not evidence of systemic corruption. There is corruption in DC, but this isn't an instance of it.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 11:47
Subject: hard to get into Duke Ellington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The pp who mentioned the regional pull of Ellington has a good point. Maryland and Virginia have schools with advanced academic programs but Ellington is unique in the area so of course it attracts OOS students. And they’re below their 10% cap. And probably those OOS students who beat out a DC student for admission were just plain better. So if you have a problem with this, contact your city government.
~mom of a former white DC Ellington student
So this should be the deal: DC will only admit some MD and VA students to Ellington if VA takes a certain number of DC students into TJ high school and DCstidents get access to MoCo’s top magnet. Otherwise we’re just suckers.
This. It’s still a head scratcher why DC taxpayers have to subsidize an education for out-of-state students, when DC council members are taking about tax increase because they say that DC needs revenue, including for the schools. (And then there’s the full subsidy for students who are fraudulently enrolled in Ellington and other DC schools.)
+1.
Systemic corruption will only end with a new Mayor who's not part of the local Dem machine.
We've become worse than Chicago.
Having a legal policy that you don't like - in this case allowing up to 10% of students who pass the audition from OOS - is not evidence of systemic corruption. There is corruption in DC, but this isn't an instance of it.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 11:42
Subject: hard to get into Duke Ellington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The pp who mentioned the regional pull of Ellington has a good point. Maryland and Virginia have schools with advanced academic programs but Ellington is unique in the area so of course it attracts OOS students. And they’re below their 10% cap. And probably those OOS students who beat out a DC student for admission were just plain better. So if you have a problem with this, contact your city government.
~mom of a former white DC Ellington student
So this should be the deal: DC will only admit some MD and VA students to Ellington if VA takes a certain number of DC students into TJ high school and DCstidents get access to MoCo’s top magnet. Otherwise we’re just suckers.
This. It’s still a head scratcher why DC taxpayers have to subsidize an education for out-of-state students, when DC council members are taking about tax increase because they say that DC needs revenue, including for the schools. (And then there’s the full subsidy for students who are fraudulently enrolled in Ellington and other DC schools.)
+1.
Systemic corruption will only end with a new Mayor who's not part of the local Dem machine.
We've become worse than Chicago.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 10:58
Subject: hard to get into Duke Ellington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The pp who mentioned the regional pull of Ellington has a good point. Maryland and Virginia have schools with advanced academic programs but Ellington is unique in the area so of course it attracts OOS students. And they’re below their 10% cap. And probably those OOS students who beat out a DC student for admission were just plain better. So if you have a problem with this, contact your city government.
~mom of a former white DC Ellington student
So this should be the deal: DC will only admit some MD and VA students to Ellington if VA takes a certain number of DC students into TJ high school and DCstidents get access to MoCo’s top magnet. Otherwise we’re just suckers.
This. It’s still a head scratcher why DC taxpayers have to subsidize an education for out-of-state students, when DC council members are taking about tax increase because they say that DC needs revenue, including for the schools. (And then there’s the full subsidy for students who are fraudulently enrolled in Ellington and other DC schools.)
Perhaps you could work out an exchange. Otherwise, those kids from DC who went to TJ would have to pay tuition. But honestly with all the issues with DCPS and more broadly education in the city, is this the hill to die on?
Anonymous
05/28/2019 10:44
Subject: hard to get into Duke Ellington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The pp who mentioned the regional pull of Ellington has a good point. Maryland and Virginia have schools with advanced academic programs but Ellington is unique in the area so of course it attracts OOS students. And they’re below their 10% cap. And probably those OOS students who beat out a DC student for admission were just plain better. So if you have a problem with this, contact your city government.
~mom of a former white DC Ellington student
So this should be the deal: DC will only admit some MD and VA students to Ellington if VA takes a certain number of DC students into TJ high school and DCstidents get access to MoCo’s top magnet. Otherwise we’re just suckers.
This. It’s still a head scratcher why DC taxpayers have to subsidize an education for out-of-state students, when DC council members are taking about tax increase because they say that DC needs revenue, including for the schools. (And then there’s the full subsidy for students who are fraudulently enrolled in Ellington and other DC schools.)
Anonymous
05/27/2019 21:38
Subject: hard to get into Duke Ellington?
Anonymous wrote:The pp who mentioned the regional pull of Ellington has a good point. Maryland and Virginia have schools with advanced academic programs but Ellington is unique in the area so of course it attracts OOS students. And they’re below their 10% cap. And probably those OOS students who beat out a DC student for admission were just plain better. So if you have a problem with this, contact your city government.
~mom of a former white DC Ellington student
So this should be the deal: DC will only admit some MD and VA students to Ellington if VA takes a certain number of DC students into TJ high school and DCstidents get access to MoCo’s top magnet. Otherwise we’re just suckers.