Anonymous wrote:Reading this thread really made me even more disgusted with men than I already am.

Anonymous wrote:Reading this thread really made me even more disgusted with men than I already am.

Anonymous wrote:Agree with PP, If you are going to have to raise your children by yourself with your DH sitting in the same house and not helping then what is the point of him? If your life is to be a single parent then be a single parent.

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Anonymous wrote:Let it sink in. What's happening in our world?

Men suck. They've always sucked. Back in the day when most women stayed at home, it was a given that they'd be responsible for the majority of the household and child rearing burden. In our current society women are now expected to work full time but STILL shoulder the lions share of those duties. It's a joke. My two cents.

Women of a certain class chose to work outside of the home, when it was entirely optional, without consulting their husbands about the housework. If you want to have it all, then have it all. Your circus, your monkeys (to pilfer a phrase I now LOVE).

Nice that you don't think housework and childcare are your responsibilities too. You know, you made the choice to work yourself. Why didn't you consult your wife about housework?

Those aren't my responsibilities. Work and providing for the family are my responsibilities. If DW chooses to work outside the home, then she should have a plan to deal with housework and childcare. Oh, and I have no doubt DW would be out the door in one minute if I decided to quit my job because I wanted to devote myself to the heart and hearth.

Wow. Seriously? If you have marriage troubles it's probably because you are living in the 1950s.

Marriage troubles? Nothing serious. Married 18 years with two lovely and lively children. And the only problem with the 1950s would be having to then live through the 1960s and 1970s.

Anonymous wrote:The Trump Effect on marriages is real. IMO, it's at least partially responsible for these more recent threads.

Anonymous wrote:Men do more than they ever have before. You think my dad or his dad did jack shit with the kids or dinner or housework? And, for the most part, modern men are putting in just as many hours at their jobs as dad or grandpa did.

Despite working just as hard at paying work and much harder with the kids and house, they get endless shit about not being good enough.

You can say it's because dad and grandpa had it far too easy. And maybe that's the case, but as a modern man, it's tough not to be resentful about doing more and getting shit upon for the effort.

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Anonymous wrote:Let it sink in. What's happening in our world?

Men suck. They've always sucked. Back in the day when most women stayed at home, it was a given that they'd be responsible for the majority of the household and child rearing burden. In our current society women are now expected to work full time but STILL shoulder the lions share of those duties. It's a joke. My two cents.

Women of a certain class chose to work outside of the home, when it was entirely optional, without consulting their husbands about the housework. If you want to have it all, then have it all. Your circus, your monkeys (to pilfer a phrase I now LOVE).

Nice that you don't think housework and childcare are your responsibilities too. You know, you made the choice to work yourself. Why didn't you consult your wife about housework?

Those aren't my responsibilities. Work and providing for the family are my responsibilities. If DW chooses to work outside the home, then she should have a plan to deal with housework and childcare. Oh, and I have no doubt DW would be out the door in one minute if I decided to quit my job because I wanted to devote myself to the heart and hearth.

How many hours do you work to provide for the family and how many hours does your DW work in the house? How many vacation hours do you take and how many vacation hours does she take.

Does your DW work a 9-7 like you do? Or what does her house work schedule look like?

Nope, DW does not. And most of the actual "heavy" housework is done by a help. We vacation together. I work your normal 9-7ish job, though am very well paid.

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Anonymous wrote:Let it sink in. What's happening in our world?

Men suck. They've always sucked. Back in the day when most women stayed at home, it was a given that they'd be responsible for the majority of the household and child rearing burden. In our current society women are now expected to work full time but STILL shoulder the lions share of those duties. It's a joke. My two cents.

Women of a certain class chose to work outside of the home, when it was entirely optional, without consulting their husbands about the housework. If you want to have it all, then have it all. Your circus, your monkeys (to pilfer a phrase I now LOVE).

Nice that you don't think housework and childcare are your responsibilities too. You know, you made the choice to work yourself. Why didn't you consult your wife about housework?

Those aren't my responsibilities. Work and providing for the family are my responsibilities. If DW chooses to work outside the home, then she should have a plan to deal with housework and childcare. Oh, and I have no doubt DW would be out the door in one minute if I decided to quit my job because I wanted to devote myself to the heart and hearth.

How many hours do you work to provide for the family and how many hours does your DW work in the house? How many vacation hours do you take and how many vacation hours does she take.

Does your DW work a 9-7 like you do? Or what does her house work schedule look like?

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Anonymous wrote:Let it sink in. What's happening in our world?

Men suck. They've always sucked. Back in the day when most women stayed at home, it was a given that they'd be responsible for the majority of the household and child rearing burden. In our current society women are now expected to work full time but STILL shoulder the lions share of those duties. It's a joke. My two cents.

Women of a certain class chose to work outside of the home, when it was entirely optional, without consulting their husbands about the housework. If you want to have it all, then have it all. Your circus, your monkeys (to pilfer a phrase I now LOVE).

Nice that you don't think housework and childcare are your responsibilities too. You know, you made the choice to work yourself. Why didn't you consult your wife about housework?

Those aren't my responsibilities. Work and providing for the family are my responsibilities. If DW chooses to work outside the home, then she should have a plan to deal with housework and childcare. Oh, and I have no doubt DW would be out the door in one minute if I decided to quit my job because I wanted to devote myself to the heart and hearth.

Wow. Seriously? If you have marriage troubles it's probably because you are living in the 1950s.

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Anonymous wrote:Let it sink in. What's happening in our world?

Men suck. They've always sucked. Back in the day when most women stayed at home, it was a given that they'd be responsible for the majority of the household and child rearing burden. In our current society women are now expected to work full time but STILL shoulder the lions share of those duties. It's a joke. My two cents.

Women of a certain class chose to work outside of the home, when it was entirely optional, without consulting their husbands about the housework. If you want to have it all, then have it all. Your circus, your monkeys (to pilfer a phrase I now LOVE).

Nice that you don't think housework and childcare are your responsibilities too. You know, you made the choice to work yourself. Why didn't you consult your wife about housework?

Those aren't my responsibilities. Work and providing for the family are my responsibilities. If DW chooses to work outside the home, then she should have a plan to deal with housework and childcare. Oh, and I have no doubt DW would be out the door in one minute if I decided to quit my job because I wanted to devote myself to the heart and hearth.

Wow. Seriously? If you have marriage troubles it's probably because you are living in the 1950s.

Marriage troubles? Nothing serious. Married 18 years with two lovely and lively children. And the only problem with the 1950s would be having to then live through the 1960s and 1970s.

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Anonymous wrote:Well. Women wanted these sensitive, metro sexual men in touch with their feelings. This is what you get..worthless, lacking ambition weak men.

More to the point, judging by the threads, divorce rate and sexless marriages posted about here, there is little reason men see the benefits of marriage. There are great women out there...not many are found in DC or posting on this forum though

When I read this I think of some sensitive guy with a beard. You know, the type who call someone a soulmate. I cannot believe women want these men. You see them all over the place. Those super skinny urban nerds who have the fanny packs.

Unbelievable bullshit. Sometimes I feel like there's a contingent of posters here who don't actually have social interaction. Your posts describe caricatures of people, stereotypes that exist solely to make you foam at the mouth on the internet. I'm one of the PPs whose husband pulls equal weight at home. He is the opposite of a sensitive beardo type. Also, metrosexual? Has anyone used that word since 2002? My husband is allergic to feelings, physically and mentally tough, and his hobbies are golf and beer. He doesn't have to be emotionally sensitive or whatever nonsense you're banging on about in order to cook a meal, scrub a toilet, and shush a crying baby. Which he does. Because he isn't lazy and selfish.

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But men like to tell themselves a myth of "men who help out with chores don't get laid or are somehow 'embarrassing'" to make themselves feel better about their laziness. It's hilariously transparent.

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Anonymous wrote:Well. Women wanted these sensitive, metro sexual men in touch with their feelings. This is what you get..worthless, lacking ambition weak men.

More to the point, judging by the threads, divorce rate and sexless marriages posted about here, there is little reason men see the benefits of marriage. There are great women out there...not many are found in DC or posting on this forum though

When I read this I think of some sensitive guy with a beard. You know, the type who call someone a soulmate. I cannot believe women want these men. You see them all over the place. Those super skinny urban nerds who have the fanny packs.

Unbelievable bullshit. Sometimes I feel like there's a contingent of posters here who don't actually have social interaction. Your posts describe caricatures of people, stereotypes that exist solely to make you foam at the mouth on the internet. I'm one of the PPs whose husband pulls equal weight at home. He is the opposite of a sensitive beardo type. Also, metrosexual? Has anyone used that word since 2002? My husband is allergic to feelings, physically and mentally tough, and his hobbies are golf and beer. He doesn't have to be emotionally sensitive or whatever nonsense you're banging on about in order to cook a meal, scrub a toilet, and shush a crying baby. Which he does. Because he isn't lazy and selfish.