Anonymous
11/21/2016 08:03
Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fed is so bloated now its ridiculous. Please... everyone start walking out the door. You won't be missed.
+1.
Finally, some serious spring cleaning.
Not really. Here's what happens under Republican administrations: more contractors. Less work performed, less oversight, more money. Great thinking, guys!
Contractors are definitely way more expensive. And the republican are looking to once again allow them to fire people for belonging to the LGBT community, which they were banned from doing under Obama.
We need some new laws in place regarding contractors - namely, that you can't quit a job paying $140,000 a year, collect a pension of $80,000, and then contract back your services as a contractor for $250,000 a year. What formerly cost taxpayers $140,000 is now costing $330,000. Multiply that scenario several hundred times, and you see the problem.
My sister's boyfriend is contemplating this very thing, He's a GS 14 earning around $125,000, and he's trying to decide whether to be a part-time contractor for the same $125,000 or continue to work full-time as a comtractor for $250,000.
Wait. I thought privatization saved the government money? That's what the GOP has been preaching for years! You mean it's actually the problem? Who knew?
Anonymous
11/21/2016 07:59
Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Federal worker here. No one is leaving because of Trump, they're filling you. At my agency they were going to be retiring in the next couple of years regardless. I hope they do, we need young fresh blood who wants to take risks. Too many employees sitting there basically Retired in Place (RIP) and not doing shit or doing the minimum to get buy. They've made their high three and will be leaving with a generous retirement.
In IT, the average age of the federal worker is 55. Way, way too old to adapt new technology and move federal IT into the next wave. They don't understand technology really and won't push to implement new ideas or technologies because they fear change and are just waiting until they retire so it's not their problem.
A lot of older federal workers are irrelevant and a waste of space.
Very ageist comments, bro. Bitter about a promotion?
Can anyone ever tell the truth without you getting offended and pushing for the status quo? The way we're going isn't working.
Get that thru your f'n thick skull... and I'm not a racist or whateverist for saying so either.
I'm PP who made "ageist" comments. I speak the truth. I'm also 36 and a GS-14, almost unheard of. I got there because of cast private sector experience, took a 13 and then promoted to 14 in less than four years to a branch director. Reason being - I was young blood that took risks and implanted new programs that have raised effectiveness, efficiency, agency capabilities and along with another branch created a system that better serves our customers (the American people). That being said, we got a lot of resistance from other unit branches and agencies. We missed timelines because of their unwillingness to work with us. Eventually the agency head had to out the hammer down as we should him how our new stuff was working well in our branch and others that implemented it. But it was the old RIP people who dragged feet and played needless politics. I say fine...get the hell out of the way and move along. Let us fix this stuff. Instead our younger agency heads that are replacing former directors don't want to deal with the HR nightmare of letting people go, putting them on PIPs and so fourth. Tbey shove them into a corner like putting old useless cows out to pasture and you can't give you milk. They sit there collecting money while essentially doing nothing.
I think you need to learn that your office isn't representative of most. For instance, I was a GS-15 before I was 30. Obviously, at your agency that would be very unusual. In my office, it's normal for the top half of performers. We have some support staff that are dead wood, but not professional staff. At my husband's firm, they had dead wood old partners staying on for the paycheck, though.
GS14 is rather good at 36. I personally think you're lying, as no one is a 15 before 30, it doesn't happen. Not sure of PP's agency, but I've worked NSF, State, DoD and not for a sub-agency of Treasury. Being on a pay band helps as you get more than a GS, but by and large the PP is correct.
Places like the OCC, CFTC and FDIC are good about getting rid of employees who are dead weight. The DOI's IBC is good about that to, but a lot of agencies aren't.
The dead weight needs to go, there is a lot of people the military people used to call Retired on Active Duty (ROAD) or RIPs as well. DoD civilians who did little or just enough to get by. I see them in the other agencies too just as PP described. There is too much of it in the federal space and it needs to be cleansed. I say to those who threaten to leave...go ahead...move on out. We're better off without you.
I love that you think that because you couldn't get the 15 before 30, it's impossible. I did. Started out of law school at 26. Made the 15 by 29. Wasn't hard.
Would be impossible most places. New attorneys come in at an 11. You have to spend a year at each grade. So in most agencies, you would be 30 at the earliest.
Anonymous
11/21/2016 07:58
Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fed is so bloated now its ridiculous. Please... everyone start walking out the door. You won't be missed.
+1.
Finally, some serious spring cleaning.
You might not miss me. But it's going to suck for your mom when their is no one to straighten out her Social Security snarl up and the checks stop coming. But I'm sure you'll pitch in.
Anonymous
11/21/2016 07:48
Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fed is so bloated now its ridiculous. Please... everyone start walking out the door. You won't be missed.
+1.
Finally, some serious spring cleaning.
Not really. Here's what happens under Republican administrations: more contractors. Less work performed, less oversight, more money. Great thinking, guys!
Contractors are definitely way more expensive. And the republican are looking to once again allow them to fire people for belonging to the LGBT community, which they were banned from doing under Obama.
We need some new laws in place regarding contractors - namely, that you can't quit a job paying $140,000 a year, collect a pension of $80,000, and then contract back your services as a contractor for $250,000 a year. What formerly cost taxpayers $140,000 is now costing $330,000. Multiply that scenario several hundred times, and you see the problem.
My sister's boyfriend is contemplating this very thing, He's a GS 14 earning around $125,000, and he's trying to decide whether to be a part-time contractor for the same $125,000 or continue to work full-time as a comtractor for $250,000.
Anonymous
11/21/2016 07:42
Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fed is so bloated now its ridiculous. Please... everyone start walking out the door. You won't be missed.
+1.
Finally, some serious spring cleaning.
Not really. Here's what happens under Republican administrations: more contractors. Less work performed, less oversight, more money. Great thinking, guys!
Contractors are definitely way more expensive. And the republican are looking to once again allow them to fire people for belonging to the LGBT community, which they were banned from doing under Obama.
Anonymous
11/21/2016 07:41
Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fed is so bloated now its ridiculous. Please... everyone start walking out the door. You won't be missed.
+1.
Finally, some serious spring cleaning.
Not really. Here's what happens under Republican administrations: more contractors. Less work performed, less oversight, more money. Great thinking, guys!
I hope Trump cracks down on this, too. I know someone who "works" from home two days a week, during which she goes shopping and does all her personal errands. Then she complains she doesn't have enough time to do her work and needs to contract out some projects.(I know what these projects are, BTW....she's completely qualified.)
Can you recall promises from Trump to cut federal spending? Why would you expect him to do it?
All I have heard is that he is going to cut taxes, spend $1 Trillion on infrastructure, increase our Defense spending, and (magic here) pay for it with 4% growth.
Anonymous
11/21/2016 07:38
Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fed is so bloated now its ridiculous. Please... everyone start walking out the door. You won't be missed.
+1.
Finally, some serious spring cleaning.
Not really. Here's what happens under Republican administrations: more contractors. Less work performed, less oversight, more money. Great thinking, guys!
I hope Trump cracks down on this, too. I know someone who "works" from home two days a week, during which she goes shopping and does all her personal errands. Then she complains she doesn't have enough time to do her work and needs to contract out some projects.(I know what these projects are, BTW....she's completely qualified.)
Anonymous
11/20/2016 20:59
Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:The fed is so bloated now its ridiculous. Please... everyone start walking out the door. You won't be missed.
Exactly!
Anonymous
11/20/2016 20:58
Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:The situation (at my agency) is that around 30% of the people are ELIGIBLE to RETIRE and are only sticking around because they like the work and their colleagues.
If even a hint of shenanigans occurs, they will just walk out the door. And if that happens, the shit. will. hit. the. fan. because a lot of these people were in the agency for decades and have a tremendous amount of institutional knowledge that they will take with them. That's how I am reading it.
Nobody will miss them. Good bye.
Anonymous
11/20/2016 19:55
Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh well, good luck in the private sector. We won't be hiring you.
That's incorrect.
+1. You sure do call me a lot trying to.
Very weird post.
I'm sorry you have comprehension problems. Good luck.
I'm sorry you have anger and jealousy issues. Did your wife leave you for a fed? Hope you get a handle on them and work through it.
You really are having comprehension issues! I think you're responding to the wrong poster.
Nope.
Anonymous
11/20/2016 19:51
Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fed is so bloated now its ridiculous. Please... everyone start walking out the door. You won't be missed.
+1.
Finally, some serious spring cleaning.
Not really. Here's what happens under Republican administrations: more contractors. Less work performed, less oversight, more money. Great thinking, guys!
Anonymous
11/20/2016 19:49
Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:The fed is so bloated now its ridiculous. Please... everyone start walking out the door. You won't be missed.
+1.
Finally, some serious spring cleaning.
Anonymous
11/20/2016 19:21
Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:I also fear for the folks at NIH who are literally saving lives. I cannot believe these morons would do it, but to impinge on the fantastic work of this agency would be a travesty. Literally saving lives.
Yep. There are many agencies that do lifesaving work. Reagan gutted the Public Health Service back as the AIDS crisis was growing. A lot of people died who could have been prevented from being infected through a robust public health approach.
Anonymous
11/20/2016 19:19
Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh well, good luck in the private sector. We won't be hiring you.
That's incorrect.
+1. You sure do call me a lot trying to.
Very weird post.
I'm sorry you have comprehension problems. Good luck.
I'm sorry you have anger and jealousy issues. Did your wife leave you for a fed? Hope you get a handle on them and work through it.
You really are having comprehension issues! I think you're responding to the wrong poster.
Anonymous
11/20/2016 19:10
Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh well, good luck in the private sector. We won't be hiring you.
That's incorrect.
+1. You sure do call me a lot trying to.
Very weird post.
I'm sorry you have comprehension problems. Good luck.
I'm sorry you have anger and jealousy issues. Did your wife leave you for a fed? Hope you get a handle on them and work through it.