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Anonymous wrote:I will say this event has seriously opened my eyes to the presumption of safety we have in amusement parks vis a bus rides. If I go to Hersheypark and the coaster is running, I assume that means it was tested for safety, approved by a governing board, and frequently inspected and maintained to be up to safety regulations. To realize that depending on the state that is not at all a given is quite sobering.

It has been. Pennsylvania has strong regulation of rides.

Yes but does Virginia? Maryland? Any other state I might visit? I have no idea and I didn't realize until this event that that might vary from state to state. I know now that it's not guaranteed depending on the state. I would have just assumed, this is a major park, this ride has obviously been tested and regulated and inspected, so if it's running, it's fine.

Anonymous wrote:I will say this event has seriously opened my eyes to the presumption of safety we have in amusement parks vis a bus rides. If I go to Hersheypark and the coaster is running, I assume that means it was tested for safety, approved by a governing board, and frequently inspected and maintained to be up to safety regulations. To realize that depending on the state that is not at all a given is quite sobering.

It has been. Pennsylvania has strong regulation of rides.

Anonymous wrote:I will say this event has seriously opened my eyes to the presumption of safety we have in amusement parks vis a bus rides. If I go to Hersheypark and the coaster is running, I assume that means it was tested for safety, approved by a governing board, and frequently inspected and maintained to be up to safety regulations. To realize that depending on the state that is not at all a given is quite sobering.

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Sorry, shouldn't say bus rides, just rides.

I will say this event has seriously opened my eyes to the presumption of safety we have in amusement parks vis a bus rides. If I go to Hersheypark and the coaster is running, I assume that means it was tested for safety, approved by a governing board, and frequently inspected and maintained to be up to safety regulations. To realize that depending on the state that is not at all a given is quite sobering.

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Sure.

Can you two please stop quoting 50 quotes each time?

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Anonymous wrote:He was 10, min age is 14...seems like he had no business being on it.

Whatever the f@$&. Try to imagine being his parents instead of BLAMING. God I hate people like you.

And it is not true. The park removed the age restrictions this year. Lots of kids under 14 have ridden that thing with the park's blessing.

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Anonymous wrote:I heard it reported on the radio that his dad is in the Kansas State Legislature. Can you say "lawsuit"!

It was elected official day at the park, elected officials were allowed in the park at no cost. Why does this translate into a lawsuit?

Please--there will probably be a lawsuit b/c a kid died a horrible death regardless of parents' professions.

Not much good in Kansas. They have a $250,000 cap on non-economic damages.

The slide was built in Kansas because Kansas is the only state that didn't have regulations to prohibit it.

I know it's wrong, because a child just died, but I wonder how the father feels about tort reform and deregulation of industry now?

Yes, it's wrong, you creep.

Call it creepy, but there's one political party hellbent on dismantling regulations and this is precisely the sort of tragedy they're meant to prevent.

There is a time and place for politics. This is not that time. Please --please -- seek therapy.

Therapy? Seriously? For bringing up the point that regulations can help prevent this sort of tragedy? Wow.

Everyone knows that regulations can help prevent safety problems. That's an obvious point. Injecting politics into this tragedy is what is so very bizarre.

The Kansas Republican party would not agree with that statement. They would say that regulations hamper innovation and don't make anyone safer. Caleb's father is a member of the Kansas Republican party.

Karma is a bitch.

I don't agree with Republicans on many things. But I find your sentiment here disgusting. This family is suffering a horrific ordeal. Shame on you.

It is a horrifying ordeal. It is a horrifying ordeal caused in part because of the father's political positions and his role in the Kansas state government. The dad contributed to this event happening. The poor kid didn't deserve it, but his father's positions on low regulation for businesses absolutely created an environment that allowed this to happen.

If Dad was an AA woman who let her child wander into an animal enclosure, people would be ready to burn her at the stake. This father doesn't deserve less criticism.

PP, you are a true asshole. Regardless of the fathers political leanings, this kid died a horrific death. His father had NOTHING to do with it!!!!!

His father was part of a state legislature that blocked regulations for businesses. Lack of regulation contributed to this child's death. His father had everything to do with it.

Because people are never hurt by things that are regulated.

I know it's uncomfortable for a lot of people, but regulation (or lack thereof) is absolutely part of the story here. There's a reason this slide was built where it was in the first place. Hopefully lessons will be learned to prevent something like this from happening again.

And never inspected. The slide has never been inspected by state safety officials, not once.

Metro is regulated. Driving is regulated. Was the construction of this medieval monstrosity "regulated"? Were there mandatory requirements and inspections or not? Give me facts, not snarky and cenemous political points that pop into your head.

Never inspected.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article94494127.html

Your reading comprehension is failing you. This link does not say it was "never" inspected.

What it says it -

The Kansas City, Kan., water slide where a 10-year-old boy died Sunday had not been inspected by the state since it opened two years ago, government records show.

Read it again.

It doesn't say it was inspected by the state at opening. The state has not inspected it. The state doesn't inspect waterslides in Kansas. The owners have it inspected and keep reports for the state, if the state has a question and wants to audit it. It's never had a state inspection, just the private ones that the business paid for or did itself. It has less inspection that the average midway carnival ride.

In my state, the state inspects all rides at all amusement parks once a year. They post the inspection certificates on the rides.

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Anonymous wrote:I heard it reported on the radio that his dad is in the Kansas State Legislature. Can you say "lawsuit"!

It was elected official day at the park, elected officials were allowed in the park at no cost. Why does this translate into a lawsuit?

Please--there will probably be a lawsuit b/c a kid died a horrible death regardless of parents' professions.

Not much good in Kansas. They have a $250,000 cap on non-economic damages.

The slide was built in Kansas because Kansas is the only state that didn't have regulations to prohibit it.

I know it's wrong, because a child just died, but I wonder how the father feels about tort reform and deregulation of industry now?

Yes, it's wrong, you creep.

Call it creepy, but there's one political party hellbent on dismantling regulations and this is precisely the sort of tragedy they're meant to prevent.

There is a time and place for politics. This is not that time. Please --please -- seek therapy.

Therapy? Seriously? For bringing up the point that regulations can help prevent this sort of tragedy? Wow.

Everyone knows that regulations can help prevent safety problems. That's an obvious point. Injecting politics into this tragedy is what is so very bizarre.

The Kansas Republican party would not agree with that statement. They would say that regulations hamper innovation and don't make anyone safer. Caleb's father is a member of the Kansas Republican party.

Karma is a bitch.

I don't agree with Republicans on many things. But I find your sentiment here disgusting. This family is suffering a horrific ordeal. Shame on you.

It is a horrifying ordeal. It is a horrifying ordeal caused in part because of the father's political positions and his role in the Kansas state government. The dad contributed to this event happening. The poor kid didn't deserve it, but his father's positions on low regulation for businesses absolutely created an environment that allowed this to happen.

If Dad was an AA woman who let her child wander into an animal enclosure, people would be ready to burn her at the stake. This father doesn't deserve less criticism.

PP, you are a true asshole. Regardless of the fathers political leanings, this kid died a horrific death. His father had NOTHING to do with it!!!!!

His father was part of a state legislature that blocked regulations for businesses. Lack of regulation contributed to this child's death. His father had everything to do with it.

Because people are never hurt by things that are regulated.

I know it's uncomfortable for a lot of people, but regulation (or lack thereof) is absolutely part of the story here. There's a reason this slide was built where it was in the first place. Hopefully lessons will be learned to prevent something like this from happening again.

And never inspected. The slide has never been inspected by state safety officials, not once.

Metro is regulated. Driving is regulated. Was the construction of this medieval monstrosity "regulated"? Were there mandatory requirements and inspections or not? Give me facts, not snarky and cenemous political points that pop into your head.

Never inspected.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article94494127.html

Your reading comprehension is failing you. This link does not say it was "never" inspected.

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The Kansas City, Kan., water slide where a 10-year-old boy died Sunday had not been inspected by the state since it opened two years ago, government records show.

Anonymous wrote:He was 10, min age is 14...seems like he had no business being on it.

Whatever the f@$&. Try to imagine being his parents instead of BLAMING. God I hate people like you.

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Anonymous wrote:I heard it reported on the radio that his dad is in the Kansas State Legislature. Can you say "lawsuit"!

It was elected official day at the park, elected officials were allowed in the park at no cost. Why does this translate into a lawsuit?

Please--there will probably be a lawsuit b/c a kid died a horrible death regardless of parents' professions.

Not much good in Kansas. They have a $250,000 cap on non-economic damages.

The slide was built in Kansas because Kansas is the only state that didn't have regulations to prohibit it.

I know it's wrong, because a child just died, but I wonder how the father feels about tort reform and deregulation of industry now?

Yes, it's wrong, you creep.

Call it creepy, but there's one political party hellbent on dismantling regulations and this is precisely the sort of tragedy they're meant to prevent.

There is a time and place for politics. This is not that time. Please --please -- seek therapy.

Therapy? Seriously? For bringing up the point that regulations can help prevent this sort of tragedy? Wow.

Everyone knows that regulations can help prevent safety problems. That's an obvious point. Injecting politics into this tragedy is what is so very bizarre.

The Kansas Republican party would not agree with that statement. They would say that regulations hamper innovation and don't make anyone safer. Caleb's father is a member of the Kansas Republican party.

Karma is a bitch.

I don't agree with Republicans on many things. But I find your sentiment here disgusting. This family is suffering a horrific ordeal. Shame on you.

It is a horrifying ordeal. It is a horrifying ordeal caused in part because of the father's political positions and his role in the Kansas state government. The dad contributed to this event happening. The poor kid didn't deserve it, but his father's positions on low regulation for businesses absolutely created an environment that allowed this to happen.

If Dad was an AA woman who let her child wander into an animal enclosure, people would be ready to burn her at the stake. This father doesn't deserve less criticism.

PP, you are a true asshole. Regardless of the fathers political leanings, this kid died a horrific death. His father had NOTHING to do with it!!!!!

His father was part of a state legislature that blocked regulations for businesses. Lack of regulation contributed to this child's death. His father had everything to do with it.

Because people are never hurt by things that are regulated.

I know it's uncomfortable for a lot of people, but regulation (or lack thereof) is absolutely part of the story here. There's a reason this slide was built where it was in the first place. Hopefully lessons will be learned to prevent something like this from happening again.

And never inspected. The slide has never been inspected by state safety officials, not once.

Metro is regulated. Driving is regulated. Was the construction of this medieval monstrosity "regulated"? Were there mandatory requirements and inspections or not? Give me facts, not snarky and cenemous political points that pop into your head.

Never inspected.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article94494127.html

On the show they have inspectors there inspecting it... You can watch them.

I can't even...my heart goes out to his parents. No words.

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Anonymous wrote:I heard it reported on the radio that his dad is in the Kansas State Legislature. Can you say "lawsuit"!

It was elected official day at the park, elected officials were allowed in the park at no cost. Why does this translate into a lawsuit?

Please--there will probably be a lawsuit b/c a kid died a horrible death regardless of parents' professions.

Not much good in Kansas. They have a $250,000 cap on non-economic damages.

The slide was built in Kansas because Kansas is the only state that didn't have regulations to prohibit it.

I know it's wrong, because a child just died, but I wonder how the father feels about tort reform and deregulation of industry now?

Yes, it's wrong, you creep.

Call it creepy, but there's one political party hellbent on dismantling regulations and this is precisely the sort of tragedy they're meant to prevent.

There is a time and place for politics. This is not that time. Please --please -- seek therapy.

Therapy? Seriously? For bringing up the point that regulations can help prevent this sort of tragedy? Wow.

Everyone knows that regulations can help prevent safety problems. That's an obvious point. Injecting politics into this tragedy is what is so very bizarre.

The Kansas Republican party would not agree with that statement. They would say that regulations hamper innovation and don't make anyone safer. Caleb's father is a member of the Kansas Republican party.

Karma is a bitch.

I don't agree with Republicans on many things. But I find your sentiment here disgusting. This family is suffering a horrific ordeal. Shame on you.

It is a horrifying ordeal. It is a horrifying ordeal caused in part because of the father's political positions and his role in the Kansas state government. The dad contributed to this event happening. The poor kid didn't deserve it, but his father's positions on low regulation for businesses absolutely created an environment that allowed this to happen.

If Dad was an AA woman who let her child wander into an animal enclosure, people would be ready to burn her at the stake. This father doesn't deserve less criticism.

PP, you are a true asshole. Regardless of the fathers political leanings, this kid died a horrific death. His father had NOTHING to do with it!!!!!

His father was part of a state legislature that blocked regulations for businesses. Lack of regulation contributed to this child's death. His father had everything to do with it.

Because people are never hurt by things that are regulated.

I know it's uncomfortable for a lot of people, but regulation (or lack thereof) is absolutely part of the story here. There's a reason this slide was built where it was in the first place. Hopefully lessons will be learned to prevent something like this from happening again.

And never inspected. The slide has never been inspected by state safety officials, not once.

Metro is regulated. Driving is regulated. Was the construction of this medieval monstrosity "regulated"? Were there mandatory requirements and inspections or not? Give me facts, not snarky and cenemous political points that pop into your head.

NO, it wasn't. They didn't just come up with political points. That is the truth. The ride was specifically built at the KC park BECAUSE Kansas doesn't have regulations and oversights over things like that. There's other Schlitterbahns in other states, it was built in Kansas for that very reason.

Then, yes, that is a serious problem. The poster who referred to lack of regulations and pivoted to the party affiliation of the victim's parent was beyond the pale, however. Comments like that should be regulated.

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Anonymous wrote:I heard it reported on the radio that his dad is in the Kansas State Legislature. Can you say "lawsuit"!

It was elected official day at the park, elected officials were allowed in the park at no cost. Why does this translate into a lawsuit?

Please--there will probably be a lawsuit b/c a kid died a horrible death regardless of parents' professions.

Not much good in Kansas. They have a $250,000 cap on non-economic damages.

The slide was built in Kansas because Kansas is the only state that didn't have regulations to prohibit it.

I know it's wrong, because a child just died, but I wonder how the father feels about tort reform and deregulation of industry now?

Yes, it's wrong, you creep.

Call it creepy, but there's one political party hellbent on dismantling regulations and this is precisely the sort of tragedy they're meant to prevent.

There is a time and place for politics. This is not that time. Please --please -- seek therapy.

Therapy? Seriously? For bringing up the point that regulations can help prevent this sort of tragedy? Wow.

Everyone knows that regulations can help prevent safety problems. That's an obvious point. Injecting politics into this tragedy is what is so very bizarre.

The Kansas Republican party would not agree with that statement. They would say that regulations hamper innovation and don't make anyone safer. Caleb's father is a member of the Kansas Republican party.

Karma is a bitch.

I don't agree with Republicans on many things. But I find your sentiment here disgusting. This family is suffering a horrific ordeal. Shame on you.

It is a horrifying ordeal. It is a horrifying ordeal caused in part because of the father's political positions and his role in the Kansas state government. The dad contributed to this event happening. The poor kid didn't deserve it, but his father's positions on low regulation for businesses absolutely created an environment that allowed this to happen.

If Dad was an AA woman who let her child wander into an animal enclosure, people would be ready to burn her at the stake. This father doesn't deserve less criticism.

PP, you are a true asshole. Regardless of the fathers political leanings, this kid died a horrific death. His father had NOTHING to do with it!!!!!

His father was part of a state legislature that blocked regulations for businesses. Lack of regulation contributed to this child's death. His father had everything to do with it.

Because people are never hurt by things that are regulated.

I know it's uncomfortable for a lot of people, but regulation (or lack thereof) is absolutely part of the story here. There's a reason this slide was built where it was in the first place. Hopefully lessons will be learned to prevent something like this from happening again.

And never inspected. The slide has never been inspected by state safety officials, not once.

Metro is regulated. Driving is regulated. Was the construction of this medieval monstrosity "regulated"? Were there mandatory requirements and inspections or not? Give me facts, not snarky and cenemous political points that pop into your head.

NO, it wasn't. They didn't just come up with political points. That is the truth. The ride was specifically built at the KC park BECAUSE Kansas doesn't have regulations and oversights over things like that. There's other Schlitterbahns in other states, it was built in Kansas for that very reason.

The owners have stated this explicitly. The link is further up the page. PP should go find it.