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Anonymous wrote:9:05 poster again. I think a more accurate statement is that it is more difficult to be in the top 10% of your class in NOVA compared to the rest of the state rather than "far fewer NOVA kids are accepted when compared to the rest of the state."

yes and good luck if you go to TJ, where the top 10% use UVA as a safety. We attended an admissions meeting where they said from out of state you better be wonderful.

I don't think this is no longer true. 33 students from TJ are in the entering class at UVA this year. Most of their parents are asian-Americans who moved into Fairfax Public Schools solely to get them into the gifted programs then into TJ. They are very smart and cost-conscious When a family is looking at $65,000 to $72,000 a year in after tax dollars (meaning in my tax bracket i have to make $130k to $150K for one child's tuition a year) versus $12,000 a year (room and board extra at UVA), they think twice, especially 1) if there are siblings; 2) the kid may go on to graduate school (which most do); and 3) UVA just got named no. 1 public in the USA by Business Insider, bypassing UCLA, Berkeley and Michigan. Also over half our nation's students are taking more than 5 or 6 years to graduate, especially if they do overseas terms, so multiply that out even further. When parents are looking at an investment that equates to the price of a house (not the situation when most of us applied to college) for one child, they are much more apt to encourage their children to go to an xlnt in-state public and later go Ivy for graduate work, which is what I did. No one ever asks about where I went to college, but they do care about where I went to law school. Smart parents are putting their money there - graduate level - where it really counts. Also some fields like engineering offer extraordinary financial packages when you hit the Masters and Ph.D levels.

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Anonymous wrote:The college "bubble" is finally popping and as everyone predicted it's all about whether you can pay and how much. Of course state schools are going to make up for shortages in their budget by admitting more OOS students. I myself have a DC going to UNC OOS and another interested in Berkkey. We pay full freight. Most Admissions aren't need blind anymore. They can't afford to be.

UNC OOS - serious? that degree isn't worth anything these days. Look at the alum list. look at the programs. if you can afford UNC OOS, you could've afforded so many other schools taht are better full freight.

but yes what you are saying is true - its happening in the UK as well - especially in the non-oxbridge level schools. non-eu (i.e. us/india/china) kids are charged 10x what uk nationals are charged - foreign kids are taking more slots

Anonymous wrote:The college "bubble" is finally popping and as everyone predicted it's all about whether you can pay and how much. Of course state schools are going to make up for shortages in their budget by admitting more OOS students. I myself have a DC going to UNC OOS and another interested in Berkkey. We pay full freight. Most Admissions aren't need blind anymore. They can't afford to be.

Anonymous wrote:The college "bubble" is finally popping and as everyone predicted it's all about whether you can pay and how much. Of course state schools are going to make up for shortages in their budget by admitting more OOS students. I myself have a DC going to UNC OOS and another interested in Berkkey. We pay full freight. Most Admissions aren't need blind anymore. They can't afford to be.