Anonymous
06/24/2016 14:50
Subject: Re:Men: Would you date a woman who did not have a "real job"?
She was not very pretty or feminine looking. How did she end up with Bill? He surely had his pick of girls.
Anonymous
06/24/2016 14:15
Subject: Re:Men: Would you date a woman who did not have a "real job"?
My guy friends are mostly professionals and I have never seen any of them date a waitress/nanny/retail worker seriously. They all dated/married other lawyers, med students, corporate and non-profit ppl, etc. I don't think they would rule it out just based on the job, but in practice they aren't likely to have as much in common or as many things to talk about with someone who is a career waitress. Same for most women.
Anonymous
06/24/2016 14:05
Subject: Re:Men: Would you date a woman who did not have a "real job"?
Its really nothing to do with your job. I am ivy educated, have four degrees and married someone from an ivy who is incredibly successful. He's happy if I go back to work, he's happy if I am a SAHM. I'm a SAHW right now. But what he wants ultimately is for us to have fun together and be partners together. He does not care what I do.
Anonymous
06/24/2016 14:01
Subject: Men: Would you date a woman who did not have a "real job"?
By the way, the actor examples? They are successful, but I don't think we're looking to Hollywood for the brain trust. Nannies, waiters, and actors seem about right.
Anonymous
06/24/2016 13:57
Subject: Men: Would you date a woman who did not have a "real job"?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you think men have a problem with a woman having the jobs you described, then you REALLY don't understand men.
+1.
- Man (BigLaw Partner)
Do you actually know anyone in BigLaw who married a waitress? I guess I agree with this in theory, but every high achieving man I know married a well-educated woman. The only exceptions I can think of are people in my parents generation (55 and older), and people who met as teenagers and kind of mapped out their lives together where she supported him through law school/medical school with one of the above jobs and the intent that she would SAH when he finished.
I know a guy in Big Law who married a nanny. They've been married for about 10 years & she's a SAHM now.
No offense but Big law isn't a big deal to many. I equate it to real estate, a decent profession. Kind of laughable how they throw that around on this forum, either way she is certainly his equal no matter what she does.
Women have it made. They can have a career or stay home, many do both during their lifetime. It's a personal choice, not right or wrong. If more people on here were less jealous they might be a little happier.
I'm the poster you are responding to & I agree that Big Law isn't a huge deal. I just used that particular example because I was responding to a poster who mentioned Big Law.
Anonymous
06/24/2016 13:45
Subject: Men: Would you date a woman who did not have a "real job"?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you think men have a problem with a woman having the jobs you described, then you REALLY don't understand men.
+1.
- Man (BigLaw Partner)
Do you actually know anyone in BigLaw who married a waitress? I guess I agree with this in theory, but every high achieving man I know married a well-educated woman. The only exceptions I can think of are people in my parents generation (55 and older), and people who met as teenagers and kind of mapped out their lives together where she supported him through law school/medical school with one of the above jobs and the intent that she would SAH when he finished.
I know a guy in Big Law who married a nanny. They've been married for about 10 years & she's a SAHM now.
No offense but Big law isn't a big deal to many. I equate it to real estate, a decent profession. Kind of laughable how they throw that around on this forum, either way she is certainly his equal no matter what she does.
Women have it made. They can have a career or stay home, many do both during their lifetime. It's a personal choice, not right or wrong. If more people on here were less jealous they might be a little happier.
Anonymous
06/24/2016 13:38
Subject: Re:Men: Would you date a woman who did not have a "real job"?
Anonymous wrote:Whatever did Bill see in her?
And what did Hillary ever see in Bill, ick.
Anonymous
06/24/2016 13:16
Subject: Re:Men: Would you date a woman who did not have a "real job"?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think that smart, accomplished women overestimate how much a man will value her education and professional experience. In fact, I think that men feel threatened by women who are more successful. It stings when a man at your level prefers a state school sorority bunny.
Smart, accomplished women learn early on in life - for me, it was in 8th grade - that you need to look for that true gem of a man who is not only not threatened by an intelligent, successful woman, but who seek that type of woman out.
I must be the only smart, accomplished woman who had no dating trouble. I'm a national merit scholar who skipped three grades, became a big law attorney at 22 after getting a master's in chemistry. I have a bunch of other accomplishments. I always had a boyfriend and was married by 28. If anything, my smarts attracted men. Maybe it's that I'm super domestic? Or that I'm foreign (but married an American white guy)? I just never found that most men found my accomplishments unattractive.
You're not smart enough to understand the difference between a general trend and a particular case. Writ large there is a negative correlation between female IQ, education, and fertility.
Would love to see the data on this because I just don't believe it. Just about every woman in my social circle and at work has a college or professional degree and is married with kids. Accomplished, ambitious women are not having trouble finding men.
Anonymous
06/24/2016 12:37
Subject: Men: Would you date a woman who did not have a "real job"?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So the reason a rich man with a great DCUM resume would pick a slacker over a driven career woman are many. One of the biggest is if someone has a career, they can't go with you on all the business excursion because they have to work. You know take vacation time. No Palm Springs in January, the meet and greet at blanked blanked golf open your company sponsors in New Orleans, the trips to the Cayman Islands for executive planning meetings, the boarding in NY, etc. These thing last a week or more and there are many on them.
So actual workers are now "slackers"?
Beautiful. The snobbery astounds!
Have you ever read any of the threads of about what women consider to be a catch? I guess you agree with those threads, but it only applies to men not women. LOL oh the world is so unfair to my double standards.
Anonymous
06/24/2016 11:49
Subject: Men: Would you date a woman who did not have a "real job"?
Anonymous wrote:So the reason a rich man with a great DCUM resume would pick a slacker over a driven career woman are many. One of the biggest is if someone has a career, they can't go with you on all the business excursion because they have to work. You know take vacation time. No Palm Springs in January, the meet and greet at blanked blanked golf open your company sponsors in New Orleans, the trips to the Cayman Islands for executive planning meetings, the boarding in NY, etc. These thing last a week or more and there are many on them.
So actual workers are now "slackers"?
Beautiful. The snobbery astounds!
Anonymous
06/24/2016 11:24
Subject: Men: Would you date a woman who did not have a "real job"?
This thread is ugly.
Anonymous
06/24/2016 11:04
Subject: Re:Men: Would you date a woman who did not have a "real job"?
Whatever did Bill see in her?
Anonymous
06/24/2016 10:17
Subject: Re:Men: Would you date a woman who did not have a "real job"?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think that smart, accomplished women overestimate how much a man will value her education and professional experience. In fact, I think that men feel threatened by women who are more successful. It stings when a man at your level prefers a state school sorority bunny.
Smart, accomplished women learn early on in life - for me, it was in 8th grade - that you need to look for that true gem of a man who is not only not threatened by an intelligent, successful woman, but who seek that type of woman out.
I must be the only smart, accomplished woman who had no dating trouble. I'm a national merit scholar who skipped three grades, became a big law attorney at 22 after getting a master's in chemistry. I have a bunch of other accomplishments. I always had a boyfriend and was married by 28. If anything, my smarts attracted men. Maybe it's that I'm super domestic? Or that I'm foreign (but married an American white guy)? I just never found that most men found my accomplishments unattractive.
You're not smart enough to understand the difference between a general trend and a particular case. Writ large there is a negative correlation between female IQ, education, and fertility.
You're too stupid to read the thread and grasp the absolute terms with which people are defining this debate. The fact is that no intelligent woman is trying to attract misogynistic mouthbreathers like many of the "men" who have posted in this thread. I didn't work as hard as I did to waste myself on an insecure, low achieving prick. The men insisting they wouldn't marry a high achieving woman are like homeless people saying they wouldn't accept $1 million. It's not as if you have the option, is it?
Anonymous
06/24/2016 10:13
Subject: Men: Would you date a woman who did not have a "real job"?
Anonymous wrote:
You: "I had muh education and muh career, ha ha stupid men!"
Just the kind of thing I would expect from bottomfeeding trash. I am glad you are not polluting the genes of intelligent women with your inbred ones. Stick to your kind, please.
Anonymous
06/24/2016 09:52
Subject: Men: Would you date a woman who did not have a "real job"?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Do you think Michelle Obama had difficulty dating? Did Hillary?
Yes.
Both were and are fugly.
Hillary Rodham dated more than one person in law school, before choosing Bill Clinton. One of her former law school boyfriends said that she left him because he wasn't ambitious enough. She was doing the choosing.
Michelle Robinson dated a number of guys and brought them home before settling on Barack Obama. Her brother said they weren't sure she was ever going to make up her mind about who to marry, and they were happy when she finally chose Obama. She was doing the choosing.
I for one place great credence in the words of these two notorious serial liars, who would never misrepresent their pasts for political purposes.
Did this have trouble dating? To ask the question is to answer it.
Well she lived in the White House and you didn't, so proof is in the pudding. You don't think Bill Clinton had any trouble finding women, do you.