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Anonymous wrote:So Joe doesn't have a job and is complaining that he can't afford the CS the court would order? Um, isn't that called voluntary impoverishment?

Yea...wtf? Joe doesn't have a job? And it sounded like his only reason for not having a job was so that when Isaac is with him at his house, he isn't working but is spending time with his son instead. So does that mean that we should all just quit our jobs? Dude...get a job. And he has another kid on the way.

None of these damn people have jobs. People in our grandparent's generation would never have dreamed of not getting jobs to support their families. What is wrong with so many younger people today? They feel entitled to NOT have a job.

In defense of Jo:
-He had just moved three hours away from his previous employment. With MTV money coming in, he has a little more financial freedom to move without having a job waiting for him.
-It's a reasonable conclusion that he doesn't want a 9-5 job because with Isaac's school over for the summer, he would be unavailable to spend time with him during the most of the day.

I agree work is a good thing, but the reality is that these people don't work because they don't have to. In Jo's case, he has held a job during most of filming (including 16&P), and I don't think it's too out there to live off his savings for a while if he's able. Jo's argument about child support is that Kail won't cough up any numbers about how much everything for Isaac costs and he doesn't trust her. If I were him, I'd just go through the courts.

I'm sure there were plenty of people in our grandparents' generation who did not feel it necessary to work, either. Young people today are just as foolish as young people long ago.

Anonymous wrote:So Joe doesn't have a job and is complaining that he can't afford the CS the court would order? Um, isn't that called voluntary impoverishment?

Yea...wtf? Joe doesn't have a job? And it sounded like his only reason for not having a job was so that when Isaac is with him at his house, he isn't working but is spending time with his son instead. So does that mean that we should all just quit our jobs? Dude...get a job. And he has another kid on the way.

None of these damn people have jobs. People in our grandparent's generation would never have dreamed of not getting jobs to support their families. What is wrong with so many younger people today? They feel entitled to NOT have a job.

I don't think he actually understood what a "moving up ceremony" was. He probably had no idea it had anything to do with his son.

Anonymous wrote:So Joe doesn't have a job and is complaining that he can't afford the CS the court would order? Um, isn't that called voluntary impoverishment?

So is he trying to live off the money MTV pays him?
Kailyn kind of has a point: if he's not working so he can spend time with Isaac, then why is he missing Isaac's events. I can see screwing up a soccer game. But your kid's graduation ceremony? It'd be one thing if he said "graduating from preschool is bullshit; I'm not going to some fake ceremony where they graduate from coloring and sharing" but that's not what happened here.

So Joe doesn't have a job and is complaining that he can't afford the CS the court would order? Um, isn't that called voluntary impoverishment?

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Anonymous wrote:If this is true.....

http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2015/leah-messer-caught-having-sex-with-first-husband-corey-simms-pregnant-miranda-furious-at-teen-mom-2/?adid=celebritydirtylaundry_FW

Teen Mom 2’s Leah Messer might just out-trash her co-star Jenelle Evans. Over the course of the past year Leah has been spiraling out of control, was divorced by her husband Jeremy, and is on the verge of losing custody of her twin daughters to her first husband Corey Simms. According to a shocking new report, Leah just reached a whole new level of low – and got caught having sex with Corey!

Corey Simms is happily married to his pregnant wife Miranda, and is using Leah’s stint in rehab to try to get custody of their daughters. According to a new report from Radar Online, Leah and Corey met up to discuss their daughters – and they wound up having sex in the back of his pick-up truck! An insider source dished to Radar Online, “Leah had sex with Corey in the back of his work truck. She was just supposed to meet with him to talk about their daughters, not have sex! Corey has admitted the affair to Miranda. It’s a huge mess and all their friends know about it.”

Oh no! This can't be true!! Corey hates Leah - he has such a good thing going with Miranda. I really hope this isn't true for Miranda's sake. How embarrassing and heartbreaking. I don't see Leah making it to 35. She's such a mess.

She had sex with her ex-husband. Is it that shocking.

Yes! Because Corey hates her and seems to really love his wife!

+1

In addition, after all the trash talk that on this Thursday's episode, Corey should know he has a good thing right now and shouldn't ruin it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this is true.....

http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2015/leah-messer-caught-having-sex-with-first-husband-corey-simms-pregnant-miranda-furious-at-teen-mom-2/?adid=celebritydirtylaundry_FW

Teen Mom 2’s Leah Messer might just out-trash her co-star Jenelle Evans. Over the course of the past year Leah has been spiraling out of control, was divorced by her husband Jeremy, and is on the verge of losing custody of her twin daughters to her first husband Corey Simms. According to a shocking new report, Leah just reached a whole new level of low – and got caught having sex with Corey!

Corey Simms is happily married to his pregnant wife Miranda, and is using Leah’s stint in rehab to try to get custody of their daughters. According to a new report from Radar Online, Leah and Corey met up to discuss their daughters – and they wound up having sex in the back of his pick-up truck! An insider source dished to Radar Online, “Leah had sex with Corey in the back of his work truck. She was just supposed to meet with him to talk about their daughters, not have sex! Corey has admitted the affair to Miranda. It’s a huge mess and all their friends know about it.”

Oh no! This can't be true!! Corey hates Leah - he has such a good thing going with Miranda. I really hope this isn't true for Miranda's sake. How embarrassing and heartbreaking. I don't see Leah making it to 35. She's such a mess.

She had sex with her ex-husband. Is it that shocking.

Yes! Because Corey hates her and seems to really love his wife!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this is true.....

http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2015/leah-messer-caught-having-sex-with-first-husband-corey-simms-pregnant-miranda-furious-at-teen-mom-2/?adid=celebritydirtylaundry_FW

Teen Mom 2’s Leah Messer might just out-trash her co-star Jenelle Evans. Over the course of the past year Leah has been spiraling out of control, was divorced by her husband Jeremy, and is on the verge of losing custody of her twin daughters to her first husband Corey Simms. According to a shocking new report, Leah just reached a whole new level of low – and got caught having sex with Corey!

Corey Simms is happily married to his pregnant wife Miranda, and is using Leah’s stint in rehab to try to get custody of their daughters. According to a new report from Radar Online, Leah and Corey met up to discuss their daughters – and they wound up having sex in the back of his pick-up truck! An insider source dished to Radar Online, “Leah had sex with Corey in the back of his work truck. She was just supposed to meet with him to talk about their daughters, not have sex! Corey has admitted the affair to Miranda. It’s a huge mess and all their friends know about it.”

Oh no! This can't be true!! Corey hates Leah - he has such a good thing going with Miranda. I really hope this isn't true for Miranda's sake. How embarrassing and heartbreaking. I don't see Leah making it to 35. She's such a mess.

She had sex with her ex-husband. Is it that shocking.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG. What a train wreck. I cannot believe how Nathan talks to Jenelle and how messed up it is that Jenelle wants him back.

Tonight was the first time I felt bad for Janelle. Nathan was so mean to her. Besides "trailer trash", what else did he call her?

I just came on here to write the same thing. I NEVER thought I could feel bad for Jenelle, but today I do. Nathan is totally playing mind games with her, and sounds like he's still coercing her into having sex with him. She's the mother of her child and he's fucking her over. That kid isn't even one yet. So sad.

Anonymous wrote:If this is true.....

http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2015/leah-messer-caught-having-sex-with-first-husband-corey-simms-pregnant-miranda-furious-at-teen-mom-2/?adid=celebritydirtylaundry_FW

Teen Mom 2’s Leah Messer might just out-trash her co-star Jenelle Evans. Over the course of the past year Leah has been spiraling out of control, was divorced by her husband Jeremy, and is on the verge of losing custody of her twin daughters to her first husband Corey Simms. According to a shocking new report, Leah just reached a whole new level of low – and got caught having sex with Corey!

Corey Simms is happily married to his pregnant wife Miranda, and is using Leah’s stint in rehab to try to get custody of their daughters. According to a new report from Radar Online, Leah and Corey met up to discuss their daughters – and they wound up having sex in the back of his pick-up truck! An insider source dished to Radar Online, “Leah had sex with Corey in the back of his work truck. She was just supposed to meet with him to talk about their daughters, not have sex! Corey has admitted the affair to Miranda. It’s a huge mess and all their friends know about it.”

Oh no! This can't be true!! Corey hates Leah - he has such a good thing going with Miranda. I really hope this isn't true for Miranda's sake. How embarrassing and heartbreaking. I don't see Leah making it to 35. She's such a mess.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG. What a train wreck. I cannot believe how Nathan talks to Jenelle and how messed up it is that Jenelle wants him back.

Tonight was the first time I felt bad for Janelle. Nathan was so mean to her. Besides "trailer trash", what else did he call her?

His most frequent insult has been "you're nothing special." Which seems like a weird thing to say.

I know Nathan is emotionally abuse in more ways that we must not see, yet he's scary because he knows how to come across as rational and controlled. He probably has Jenelle second-guessing herself constantly because they have "huge fights" that are never during filming (orchestrated by Nathan, perhaps?) but on camera, he is mostly calm and gives rational arguments: gym time is his "me" time so don't bother him there; they are toxic together and need space (yet he's still having sex with her), etc. I wonder if he thought the car chase incident was "camera free" time.

On a shallow note, I noticed last night that I think Jenelle cleans up nicely and could be the most attractive of this crop of Teen Moms, personalities aside. Her recent meth face mugshot might have undone this, but she is reasonably pretty and I think her classes give her a "more classier" look. Leah looks like she about three times her age, Chelsea is okay but I think her hair makes her look immature, and Kail.. well.. we'll say it's the tattoos.

Nathan was in this for the MTV money, he got enough of it apparently.

No chance Kail will ever be on air in a journalism career with all the tats she has. She should take some of the MTV money and get laser removal.

Anonymous wrote:OMG. What a train wreck. I cannot believe how Nathan talks to Jenelle and how messed up it is that Jenelle wants him back.

Tonight was the first time I felt bad for Janelle. Nathan was so mean to her. Besides "trailer trash", what else did he call her?

Anonymous wrote:Confused...where is Kaiser tonight?

Daycare and/or where always is--Nathan's parents' house (where his half-sister lives).

This may have been covered and I missed it but....do we know what the custody situation with Leah and Corey is at this point? I really hope he has them! She is a mess!