Anonymous
06/24/2015 18:41
Subject: Re:Ethics of adoption
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:+1!Anonymous wrote:Barring rape and all the other statistically unrealistic "what ifs" there is a bottom line here.
If you are a woman having sex, even while on birth control, there is a chance you will become pregnant. As adults we have to be responsible for our actions and accept the consequences of our actions.
Abortion, adoption, raising the child. Those are the choices. You cannot expect anyone else to foot the bill for you to be a parent. Its ridiculous.
And I think questioning the ethics of adoption just to further a socialist agenda is nasty and uncalled for.
To confirm: you see no need to improve US policies on families nor provide pregnant women in this country greater support, correct?
To confirm: You think women are unable to take responsibility for themselves and need someone to take care of them, correct?
To confirm: You are one of those distribution of wealth socialists who want to live in a nanny state, correct?
No man is an island...
We are members of a society. Our collective responsibility to one another fills the gap when an individual's personal circumstances leaves them needing more.
If you are content not distributing wealth, let's make access to water a privilege, defund road construction and infrastructure repair, do away with any economic or business regulation, let the free market determine the value of all things, dismantle the public school system, privatize emergency responders and the police force (and the military, for that matter), close the libraries, end garbage collection, get rid of the landfills, close the jails and prisons, end corporate welfare, etc. etc. etc.
I'll take the nanny state.
Then you should move to one. I'm sure they will welcome you with open arms.
Did you even read what I wrote?? We live in a nanny state.
Anonymous
06/24/2015 18:41
Subject: Re:Ethics of adoption
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:+1!Anonymous wrote:Barring rape and all the other statistically unrealistic "what ifs" there is a bottom line here.
If you are a woman having sex, even while on birth control, there is a chance you will become pregnant. As adults we have to be responsible for our actions and accept the consequences of our actions.
Abortion, adoption, raising the child. Those are the choices. You cannot expect anyone else to foot the bill for you to be a parent. Its ridiculous.
And I think questioning the ethics of adoption just to further a socialist agenda is nasty and uncalled for.
To confirm: you see no need to improve US policies on families nor provide pregnant women in this country greater support, correct?
To confirm: You think women are unable to take responsibility for themselves and need someone to take care of them, correct?
To confirm: You are one of those distribution of wealth socialists who want to live in a nanny state, correct?
No man is an island...
We are members of a society. Our collective responsibility to one another fills the gap when an individual's personal circumstances leaves them needing more.
If you are content not distributing wealth, let's make access to water a privilege, defund road construction and infrastructure repair, do away with any economic or business regulation, let the free market determine the value of all things, dismantle the public school system, privatize emergency responders and the police force (and the military, for that matter), close the libraries, end garbage collection, get rid of the landfills, close the jails and prisons, end corporate welfare, etc. etc. etc.
I'll take the nanny state.
While your comparison was ridiculous, I'd take all of that being privatized over a nanny state.
Anonymous
06/24/2015 18:40
Subject: Ethics of adoption
Are you always this evil and ugly? Some people pay more than lip service to the needs of others. Obviously, your heart isn't that big.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many of us adopted not because we were unable to have biological children but because there was a child that needed a home and we could provide a loving home. I guess that makes us awful human beings...
Careful. You may break your arm patting yourself on the back for all your altruism.
Anonymous
06/24/2015 18:40
Subject: Re:Ethics of adoption
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:+1!Anonymous wrote:Barring rape and all the other statistically unrealistic "what ifs" there is a bottom line here.
If you are a woman having sex, even while on birth control, there is a chance you will become pregnant. As adults we have to be responsible for our actions and accept the consequences of our actions.
Abortion, adoption, raising the child. Those are the choices. You cannot expect anyone else to foot the bill for you to be a parent. Its ridiculous.
And I think questioning the ethics of adoption just to further a socialist agenda is nasty and uncalled for.
To confirm: you see no need to improve US policies on families nor provide pregnant women in this country greater support, correct?
To confirm: You think women are unable to take responsibility for themselves and need someone to take care of them, correct?
To confirm: You are one of those distribution of wealth socialists who want to live in a nanny state, correct?
No man is an island...
We are members of a society. Our collective responsibility to one another fills the gap when an individual's personal circumstances leaves them needing more.
If you are content not distributing wealth, let's make access to water a privilege, defund road construction and infrastructure repair, do away with any economic or business regulation, let the free market determine the value of all things, dismantle the public school system, privatize emergency responders and the police force (and the military, for that matter), close the libraries, end garbage collection, get rid of the landfills, close the jails and prisons, end corporate welfare, etc. etc. etc.
I'll take the nanny state.
Then you should move to one. I'm sure they will welcome you with open arms.
Anonymous
06/24/2015 18:39
Subject: Re:Ethics of adoption
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:+1!Anonymous wrote:Barring rape and all the other statistically unrealistic "what ifs" there is a bottom line here.
If you are a woman having sex, even while on birth control, there is a chance you will become pregnant. As adults we have to be responsible for our actions and accept the consequences of our actions.
Abortion, adoption, raising the child. Those are the choices. You cannot expect anyone else to foot the bill for you to be a parent. Its ridiculous.
And I think questioning the ethics of adoption just to further a socialist agenda is nasty and uncalled for.
To confirm: you see no need to improve US policies on families nor provide pregnant women in this country greater support, correct?
To confirm: You think women are unable to take responsibility for themselves and need someone to take care of them, correct?
To confirm: You are one of those distribution of wealth socialists who want to live in a nanny state, correct?
No man is an island...
We are members of a society. Our collective responsibility to one another fills the gap when an individual's personal circumstances leaves them needing more.
If you are content not distributing wealth, let's make access to water a privilege, defund road construction and infrastructure repair, do away with any economic or business regulation, let the free market determine the value of all things, dismantle the public school system, privatize emergency responders and the police force (and the military, for that matter), close the libraries, end garbage collection, get rid of the landfills, close the jails and prisons, end corporate welfare, etc. etc. etc.
I'll take the nanny state.
Anonymous
06/24/2015 18:27
Subject: Ethics of adoption
Anonymous wrote:Many of us adopted not because we were unable to have biological children but because there was a child that needed a home and we could provide a loving home. I guess that makes us awful human beings...
Careful. You may break your arm patting yourself on the back for all your altruism.
Anonymous
06/24/2015 18:23
Subject: Ethics of adoption
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oops - I guess I should take my kids back to the orphanage in Colombia!!! Not.
You should never have been allowed to take these children from their home country, their cultural heritage, language, and extended family. I hope that, worldwide, adoptions that take child away from their cultural heritage is stopped. Yes, you have money and you stole this woman's children.
You are so ugly inside.
I guess withering away in an orphanage would have been better for the PPs children.
Anonymous
06/24/2015 18:21
Subject: Ethics of adoption
Anonymous wrote:Oops - I guess I should take my kids back to the orphanage in Colombia!!! Not.
You should never have been allowed to take these children from their home country, their cultural heritage, language, and extended family. I hope that, worldwide, adoptions that take child away from their cultural heritage is stopped. Yes, you have money and you stole this woman's children.
Anonymous
06/24/2015 18:16
Subject: Ethics of adoption
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is an honest question. How can parents be coerced into placing their child for adoption?
They are all coerced "in hindsight"
Hmm. Let's see. Vulnerable woman with little or no social support turns to a deceptively "neutral" agency that lauds the good act of placing one's child for adoption and warns of ruin should the woman choose to keep and raise the kid. Abortion, of course, is out of the question.
Seriously?
You are ignorant if you think EVERY agency acts this way. I purposefully chose a Catholic agency b/c they approach this from a mental health perspective and are not for profit. They are not in need of babies to "sell" to stay in business. They actually DO try to find birth parents the resources they need to parent effectively if that is their choice and they explore that option with every client who approaches them.
John Roberts adopted two children from Ireland and Irish law prohibits children from leaving Ireland. Money and power scream. The Catholic church is the worst offender for stealing babies from unwed mothers.
Anonymous
06/24/2015 18:08
Subject: Re:Ethics of adoption
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:+1!Anonymous wrote:Barring rape and all the other statistically unrealistic "what ifs" there is a bottom line here.
If you are a woman having sex, even while on birth control, there is a chance you will become pregnant. As adults we have to be responsible for our actions and accept the consequences of our actions.
Abortion, adoption, raising the child. Those are the choices. You cannot expect anyone else to foot the bill for you to be a parent. Its ridiculous.
And I think questioning the ethics of adoption just to further a socialist agenda is nasty and uncalled for.
To confirm: you see no need to improve US policies on families nor provide pregnant women in this country greater support, correct?
To confirm: You think women are unable to take responsibility for themselves and need someone to take care of them, correct?
To confirm: You are one of those distribution of wealth socialists who want to live in a nanny state, correct?
Anonymous
06/24/2015 18:06
Subject: Re:Ethics of adoption
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:+1!Anonymous wrote:Barring rape and all the other statistically unrealistic "what ifs" there is a bottom line here.
If you are a woman having sex, even while on birth control, there is a chance you will become pregnant. As adults we have to be responsible for our actions and accept the consequences of our actions.
Abortion, adoption, raising the child. Those are the choices. You cannot expect anyone else to foot the bill for you to be a parent. Its ridiculous.
And I think questioning the ethics of adoption just to further a socialist agenda is nasty and uncalled for.
To confirm: you see no need to improve US policies on families nor provide pregnant women in this country greater support, correct?
Correct.
Anonymous
06/24/2015 18:05
Subject: Ethics of adoption
Oops - I guess I should take my kids back to the orphanage in Colombia!!! Not.
Anonymous
06/24/2015 18:03
Subject: Ethics of adoption
What a bunch of sick people....
A parent is a mom who sticks by a child who has development delays and never complains. It's dad that never goes on a vacation to give something to his kids. Parents there for the colds, the crushes, the gradations, the er visits and all the best- good bad ugly- tedious and exciting. All that.
Your birth mama self pity stories are just that- it's a self pity narrative somehow cast as being about the child. It isn't.
A parent is a mom who sticks by a child who has development delays and never complains. It's dad that never goes on a vacation to give something to his kids. Parents there for the colds, the crushes, the gradations, the er visits and all the best- good bad ugly- tedious and exciting. All that.
Your birth mama self pity stories are just that- it's a self pity narrative somehow cast as being about the child. It isn't.
Anonymous
06/24/2015 18:02
Subject: Re:Ethics of adoption
Anonymous wrote:+1!Anonymous wrote:Barring rape and all the other statistically unrealistic "what ifs" there is a bottom line here.
If you are a woman having sex, even while on birth control, there is a chance you will become pregnant. As adults we have to be responsible for our actions and accept the consequences of our actions.
Abortion, adoption, raising the child. Those are the choices. You cannot expect anyone else to foot the bill for you to be a parent. Its ridiculous.
And I think questioning the ethics of adoption just to further a socialist agenda is nasty and uncalled for.
To confirm: you see no need to improve US policies on families nor provide pregnant women in this country greater support, correct?
Anonymous
06/24/2015 17:37
Subject: Re:Ethics of adoption
+1!Anonymous wrote:Barring rape and all the other statistically unrealistic "what ifs" there is a bottom line here.
If you are a woman having sex, even while on birth control, there is a chance you will become pregnant. As adults we have to be responsible for our actions and accept the consequences of our actions.
Abortion, adoption, raising the child. Those are the choices. You cannot expect anyone else to foot the bill for you to be a parent. Its ridiculous.
And I think questioning the ethics of adoption just to further a socialist agenda is nasty and uncalled for.