Anonymous
10/15/2014 17:21
Subject: Re:I can't handle the competition at K
Anonymous wrote:Well, you've said the kids were not well behaved. Could be why obedience is such a priority. I taught for years, some years classes are simply more difficult. Sometimes it is the chemistry of the kids.
Sometimes it is the parents.
Anonymous
10/15/2014 16:48
Subject: Re:I can't handle the competition at K
Well, you've said the kids were not well behaved. Could be why obedience is such a priority. I taught for years, some years classes are simply more difficult. Sometimes it is the chemistry of the kids.
Anonymous
10/15/2014 15:32
Subject: Re:I can't handle the competition at K
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:better not go into the school with this attitude if you expect them to actually take your concerns seriously. have you talked to the teacher about your concerns???
I talked to the teacher. She just kind of brushes it off and did not take it seriously, but she doesn't know the family. She read a book to the kids about being friends and making friends. I think that's about it. I've been couching DD to say "no" and set boundaries. I don't know how she'll do, she says she's scared of the other girl.
So I went to volunteer at the class to see what's going on and now I'm a little sad. The teacher spends half of the time yelling at them to be quiet. DD is very very quiet, not like herself at home at all. She's completely invisible among the other, more loud and articulate kids.
Also, she doesn't pay attention all the time and gets distracted. So that's something we have to work on. I was amazed at a couple of kids who are extraordinarily attentive and follow instructions to the tee. I'm surprised kids at 5 can have this kind of attention.
They spent thirty minutes writing a letter "S", then went to lunch. I could do this at home with her in 10 minutes. Meanwhile, they're required to sit and be quiet the whole time.
The teacher is multitasking all the time.
For example, she gave them a task that required to draw the settings of where something was taking place. Most children don't know what a setting is. She explained it very briefly while it was very noisy and many of them did not get it. She went on to focus on something else, did not reinforce it. They kids did whatever and I'm sure if you ask them an hour later "what's a setting?" they would not be able to answer it. I kind of expected it, so that's why I supplement at home.
how big is the class? it sounds like it may be on the large size which might be part of the problem.
Anonymous
10/15/2014 15:25
Subject: I can't handle the competition at K
OP, why are you wasting even a moment more complaining on DCUM? You must immediately withdraw your child from this terrible school! Get going!
Anonymous
10/15/2014 15:18
Subject: Re:I can't handle the competition at K
Anonymous wrote:
Knowing the family doesn't affect what is happening at school. If your child was so quiet, wouldn't she be one of the more compliant ones? How is she quiet and then also distracted to the point that you need to work on it.
She's compliant. But she does not actively try to get teacher's attention.
Anonymous wrote:I seriously doubt she said write a letter S and then they spent 30 minutes writing S's. Now way this is the whole story. No. Way.
If you were volunteering, were you helping the kids understand what a setting was? Sounds like a great lesson - but she probably needs volunteers who will actually help the kids not be there snooping to bolster created issues.
Excuse me, I have a right to "snoop" to see what's going on in my DC's class.
Yes, I went to each child and repeated to them what a setting, because they didn't catch the definition. And yes, they spent 30 minutes on a single worksheet writing S four times and coloring the pictures next to it - a snake, a saw. Half way through the teacher realized that this not was the task - they were supposed to color the pictures of words that end with "S", not start with "S". Then they rushed through the setting worksheet, although that one required more time. They were running out of time all the time and the teacher was just trying to get through it all. You know, just to get it over with.
Like I said I expected it, but it still feels very sad that DC is not going to get any individual attention. The kids in class are all very different, the teacher never asked called out a single one of them to answer. She just kind of shouted the question out, while doing something else. Few participated.
You seem to be taking it rather personally. Perhaps, you're a teacher?
Anonymous
10/15/2014 15:03
Subject: Re:I can't handle the competition at K
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:better not go into the school with this attitude if you expect them to actually take your concerns seriously. have you talked to the teacher about your concerns???
I talked to the teacher. She just kind of brushes it off and did not take it seriously, but she doesn't know the family.[b] She read a book to the kids about being friends and making friends. I think that's about it. I've been couching DD to say "no" and set boundaries. I don't know how she'll do, she says she's scared of the other girl.
So I went to volunteer at the class to see what's going on and now I'm a little sad. The teacher spends half of the time yelling at them to be quiet. DD is very very quiet, not like herself at home at all. She's completely invisible among the other, more loud and articulate kids.
Also, she doesn't pay attention all the time and gets distracted. So that's something we have to work on. I was amazed at a couple of kids who are extraordinarily attentive and follow instructions to the tee. I'm surprised kids at 5 can have this kind of attention.
They spent thirty minutes writing a letter "S", then went to lunch. I could do this at home with her in 10 minutes. Meanwhile, they're required to sit and be quiet the whole time.
The teacher is multitasking all the time.
For example, she gave them a task that required to draw the settings of where something was taking place. Most children don't know what a setting is. She explained it very briefly while it was very noisy and many of them did not get it. She went on to focus on something else, did not reinforce it. They kids did whatever and I'm sure if you ask them an hour later "what's a setting?" they would not be able to answer it. I kind of expected it, so that's why I supplement at home.
Knowing the family doesn't affect what is happening at school. If your child was so quiet, wouldn't she be one of the more compliant ones? How is she quiet and then also distracted to the point that you need to work on it.
I seriously doubt she said write a letter S and then they spent 30 minutes writing S's. Now way this is the whole story. No. Way. If you were volunteering, were you helping the kids understand what a setting was? Sounds like a great lesson - but she probably needs volunteers who will actually help the kids not be there snooping to bolster created issues.
Anonymous
10/15/2014 14:37
Subject: Re:I can't handle the competition at K
Anonymous wrote:better not go into the school with this attitude if you expect them to actually take your concerns seriously. have you talked to the teacher about your concerns???
I talked to the teacher. She just kind of brushes it off and did not take it seriously, but she doesn't know the family. She read a book to the kids about being friends and making friends. I think that's about it. I've been couching DD to say "no" and set boundaries. I don't know how she'll do, she says she's scared of the other girl.
So I went to volunteer at the class to see what's going on and now I'm a little sad. The teacher spends half of the time yelling at them to be quiet. DD is very very quiet, not like herself at home at all. She's completely invisible among the other, more loud and articulate kids.
Also, she doesn't pay attention all the time and gets distracted. So that's something we have to work on. I was amazed at a couple of kids who are extraordinarily attentive and follow instructions to the tee. I'm surprised kids at 5 can have this kind of attention.
They spent thirty minutes writing a letter "S", then went to lunch. I could do this at home with her in 10 minutes. Meanwhile, they're required to sit and be quiet the whole time.
The teacher is multitasking all the time.
For example, she gave them a task that required to draw the settings of where something was taking place. Most children don't know what a setting is. She explained it very briefly while it was very noisy and many of them did not get it. She went on to focus on something else, did not reinforce it. They kids did whatever and I'm sure if you ask them an hour later "what's a setting?" they would not be able to answer it. I kind of expected it, so that's why I supplement at home.
Anonymous
10/15/2014 14:13
Subject: Re:I can't handle the competition at K
Anonymous wrote:
I didn't call her "psychopath". And no, we're friends with her mother, not really her father. Her mother is a very nice person.
Yes you did. 19:02 yesterday.
No, I did not. I was not talking about her.
Anonymous
10/15/2014 13:21
Subject: Re:I can't handle the competition at K
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This keeps getting better. OP, your very first post was so hopeful: "So DD started K this year and she ended up in a class with her friend and our good friends' daughter."
And now the little girl is a "psychopath" holding your daughter hostage and the father is a controlling, emotionally abusive bully!
Priceless!
I didn't call her "psychopath". And no, we're friends with her mother, not really her father. Her mother is a very nice person.
Yes you did. 19:02 yesterday.
The girl who won the award has good leadership qualities and is bright. But at the same time she's controlling and pushy. DD said she pushes her in the back in line if she walks slow, she doesn't let DD play with other children, is mean with her, yells at her for not playing the way she wants to play, etc. So I'm appalled she's getting a "good citizen" award.
It just shows me that the school is stupid and I can't count on the them to be fair, with my child or others and to stimulate their development. My daughter will always be overlooked, but any psychopath will get a lot of awards.
Maybe if you're such good friends you could approach the mom and talk to her about her child.
Anonymous
10/15/2014 13:05
Subject: I can't handle the competition at K
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Curious. Why are you supplementing an hour a day? Trying to trick the school into thinking she is gifted?
No, no, no. I could could care less about trying to impress the school. I'm supplementing because am not sure the she is doing enough in class. Reading, math reasoning, math.
She is not gifted, she is average. But she catches on to concepts very very quickly. So it's pretty easy. What's hard is making her work a little because she only wants to play and do the fun stuff, nothing that requires effort. So I'm teaching her to make a little effort every day.
OP, why don't YOU give your daughter an honors award. It sounds like she's trying to please you. It's hard for a K student to focus on academics for an hour after school. I'm being a bit facetious when I suggest that perhaps she doesn't give it her all in school because her day won't be over; she's letting loose before she needs to really concentrate.
Anonymous
10/15/2014 12:31
Subject: I can't handle the competition at K
If there is a DCUM award for Posters Persisting in Absurdity, I'm going to nominate this thread, along with the thread about how it's entitled to expect people to call you by a nickname after you ask them to.
Anonymous
10/15/2014 12:29
Subject: Re:I can't handle the competition at K
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You are clearly making every excuse in the book about this situation and are back tracking, backing down, changing stories, etc. First you said it hurt that your child didn't get the award but later said you didn't care about the award. Then the school is mediocre and the counselors are poorly trained.
Yes, it keeps evolving. At first I was upset about the award. But the next day what my DD told got me much more upset at a whole new level. Now I don't care about the award, I want my DD to be out of this unhealthy relationship. I'd willing to sign an contract that she never ever receives an award as long as she stays away from such personalities.
I can't believe the teacher hasn't caught on to that, until DD told me I had no idea. This just shows how clueless teachers are.
better not go into the school with this attitude if you expect them to actually take your concerns seriously. have you talked to the teacher about your concerns???
Anonymous
10/15/2014 12:24
Subject: Re:I can't handle the competition at K
Anonymous wrote:maybe work with him..Anonymous wrote:
And you know what the dad does at work because....?
She doesn't work with the father. She generalizes EVERYTHING and then reaches conclusions (and diagnoses!) based on her inaccurate generalizations.
Anonymous
10/15/2014 12:23
Subject: Re:I can't handle the competition at K
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You are clearly making every excuse in the book about this situation and are back tracking, backing down, changing stories, etc. First you said it hurt that your child didn't get the award but later said you didn't care about the award. Then the school is mediocre and the counselors are poorly trained.
Yes, it keeps evolving. At first I was upset about the award. But the next day what my DD told got me much more upset at a whole new level. Now I don't care about the award, I want my DD to be out of this unhealthy relationship. I'd willing to sign an contract that she never ever receives an award as long as she stays away from such personalities.
I can't believe the teacher hasn't caught on to that, until DD told me I had no idea. This just shows how clueless teachers are.
Or your child isn't an accurate reporter. Or you and/or your child have a vendetta against this kid and her family (and the teachers and counselors).
Anonymous
10/15/2014 11:31
Subject: Re:I can't handle the competition at K
maybe work with him..Anonymous wrote:
And you know what the dad does at work because....?