Anonymous
Post 10/20/2014 21:40     Subject: Re:Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Anonymous wrote:
Maybe the police and search teams couldn't search the property because it is private property?


Bingo. You get shot for trespassing in places like rural Virginia.


+1

Backwoods.
Anonymous
Post 10/20/2014 21:31     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Anonymous wrote:I hope the victim in the 2005 fairfax case is willing to testify. She's the one victim who isn't dead and engaged with the police. She is very lucky to be alive.


On the contrary, there are two victims from his early days in college. I believe it was the victim at Liberty University that declined to press charges. The second victim at CNU, I believe prosecutors didn't have enough evidence to charge him. Sure makes me just a bit upset and bitter that his first victim declined to press charges, sure wonder what's going through her head right about now. I would imagine she's probably pretty racked with guilt.
Anonymous
Post 10/20/2014 15:15     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

I hope the victim in the 2005 fairfax case is willing to testify. She's the one victim who isn't dead and engaged with the police. She is very lucky to be alive.
Anonymous
Post 10/20/2014 15:11     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Thanks! I hope they release some details of the evidence during the press conference.
Anonymous
Post 10/20/2014 15:06     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jesse Matthew just now got indicted for the 2005 rape & beating in Fairfax.


Do you have a link for this? I can't find anything on the news, unless you have some insider info!


It's all over. Here is one link: http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/local/2014/10/20/uva-hannah-graham-suspect-jesse-matthew-to-be-indicted-for-2005-fairfax-rape/17617775/
Anonymous
Post 10/20/2014 15:04     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jesse Matthew just now got indicted for the 2005 rape & beating in Fairfax.


Do you have a link for this? I can't find anything on the news, unless you have some insider info!


Different poster - I got a news alert for this as well. I'm on my phone so no link but I'm sure someone can find one.
Anonymous
Post 10/20/2014 14:56     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Anonymous wrote:Jesse Matthew just now got indicted for the 2005 rape & beating in Fairfax.


Do you have a link for this? I can't find anything on the news, unless you have some insider info!
Anonymous
Post 10/20/2014 14:53     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Anonymous wrote:I think it behooves universities to try to encourage sober activities. Why does everything have to involve alcohol?


Universities can encourage sober activities all they want. There will still be a ton of kids drinking. And a lot of the drinking is done off-campus.
Anonymous
Post 10/20/2014 14:51     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Jesse Matthew just now got indicted for the 2005 rape & beating in Fairfax.
Anonymous
Post 10/20/2014 14:47     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

I think it behooves universities to try to encourage sober activities. Why does everything have to involve alcohol?
Anonymous
Post 10/20/2014 14:30     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't really understand how having Uber in Charlottesville would help anything. The perpetrator/murderer/rapist had a taxi driver's license! He could have been an uber driver (had it existed at the time and/or had HG used Uber).

The fact of the matter is that HG was in the wrong place in the wrong state of mind. JM got lucky that HG crossed his path. If HG had wanted a taxi, I'm sure she could have asked the bar tender or bouncer or anyone at a restaurant on the mall to call one for her. She must have trusted JM based on the way he acted and what he said to her. She didn't know he was a rapist/killer in disguise -- who would think that? He may have shown her his hospital ID card and told her "I'll take you home."

I don't think I'm going out on a limb to say that 99% of women today have made a bad choice or two about accepting a ride.... it's just that luck was on our side and nothing catastrophic happened.

This whole situation is sickening b/c most of us are thinking "it could have been me" or "it could have been my daughter." It's horrifying to see someone so innocent and so full of talent and potential be slaughtered. It's like a human version of the predator nature shows... except it's not the circle of life. It's the circle of selfishness and hate.


I could have written this same post. I was an idiot in my 20s...got too drunk, hated to go home, would go to parties and bars by myself after my friends went home, too trusting of strangers, preferred to walk than take a cab, etc., etc. I even did all of this nonsense in Charlottesville for three years. I am very grateful that I never came across the wrong person in all of my ridiculous and (I now understand them to be) dangerous shenanigans. I really feel for her parents and regret the stress I must have put my own mom through back then. I have three little boys now and, up until this story struck so close to home, always thought I wanted a girl. Not anymore...I am at peace with my little boys and the (likely very naive) hope that this scenario, at least, is off the table for our family.


I agree. I made bad choices when I was young and drunk - and so did many of my friends. So common. The only thing we tried to do was stick together - but I remember small groups of us taking rides from total strangers we met in a bar here in DC in the early 90s. Or getting into a cab all alone and thinking it was totally safe - I did that all the time. This was before cell phones, mind you.

I was just lucky. Hannah wasn't. That poor girl, that poor family.
Anonymous
Post 10/20/2014 14:20     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Anonymous wrote:I don't really understand how having Uber in Charlottesville would help anything. The perpetrator/murderer/rapist had a taxi driver's license! He could have been an uber driver (had it existed at the time and/or had HG used Uber).

The fact of the matter is that HG was in the wrong place in the wrong state of mind. JM got lucky that HG crossed his path. If HG had wanted a taxi, I'm sure she could have asked the bar tender or bouncer or anyone at a restaurant on the mall to call one for her. She must have trusted JM based on the way he acted and what he said to her. She didn't know he was a rapist/killer in disguise -- who would think that? He may have shown her his hospital ID card and told her "I'll take you home."

I don't think I'm going out on a limb to say that 99% of women today have made a bad choice or two about accepting a ride.... it's just that luck was on our side and nothing catastrophic happened.

This whole situation is sickening b/c most of us are thinking "it could have been me" or "it could have been my daughter." It's horrifying to see someone so innocent and so full of talent and potential be slaughtered. It's like a human version of the predator nature shows... except it's not the circle of life. It's the circle of selfishness and hate.


I could have written this same post. I was an idiot in my 20s...got too drunk, hated to go home, would go to parties and bars by myself after my friends went home, too trusting of strangers, preferred to walk than take a cab, etc., etc. I even did all of this nonsense in Charlottesville for three years. I am very grateful that I never came across the wrong person in all of my ridiculous and (I now understand them to be) dangerous shenanigans. I really feel for her parents and regret the stress I must have put my own mom through back then. I have three little boys now and, up until this story struck so close to home, always thought I wanted a girl. Not anymore...I am at peace with my little boys and the (likely very naive) hope that this scenario, at least, is off the table for our family.
Anonymous
Post 10/20/2014 14:09     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Anonymous wrote:I don't really understand how having Uber in Charlottesville would help anything. The perpetrator/murderer/rapist had a taxi driver's license! He could have been an uber driver (had it existed at the time and/or had HG used Uber).

The fact of the matter is that HG was in the wrong place in the wrong state of mind. JM got lucky that HG crossed his path. If HG had wanted a taxi, I'm sure she could have asked the bar tender or bouncer or anyone at a restaurant on the mall to call one for her. She must have trusted JM based on the way he acted and what he said to her. She didn't know he was a rapist/killer in disguise -- who would think that? He may have shown her his hospital ID card and told her "I'll take you home."

I don't think I'm going out on a limb to say that 99% of women today have made a bad choice or two about accepting a ride.... it's just that luck was on our side and nothing catastrophic happened.

This whole situation is sickening b/c most of us are thinking "it could have been me" or "it could have been my daughter." It's horrifying to see someone so innocent and so full of talent and potential be slaughtered. It's like a human version of the predator nature shows... except it's not the circle of life. It's the circle of selfishness and hate.


But doesn't uber track the exchange between the selected driver and the passenger? And the cars are outfitted with tracking devices. But with taxis, the driver has to call in the fare and location. So uber knows exactly which driver picked up which passenger and where.
Anonymous
Post 10/20/2014 13:55     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

I don't really understand how having Uber in Charlottesville would help anything. The perpetrator/murderer/rapist had a taxi driver's license! He could have been an uber driver (had it existed at the time and/or had HG used Uber).

The fact of the matter is that HG was in the wrong place in the wrong state of mind. JM got lucky that HG crossed his path. If HG had wanted a taxi, I'm sure she could have asked the bar tender or bouncer or anyone at a restaurant on the mall to call one for her. She must have trusted JM based on the way he acted and what he said to her. She didn't know he was a rapist/killer in disguise -- who would think that? He may have shown her his hospital ID card and told her "I'll take you home."

I don't think I'm going out on a limb to say that 99% of women today have made a bad choice or two about accepting a ride.... it's just that luck was on our side and nothing catastrophic happened.

This whole situation is sickening b/c most of us are thinking "it could have been me" or "it could have been my daughter." It's horrifying to see someone so innocent and so full of talent and potential be slaughtered. It's like a human version of the predator nature shows... except it's not the circle of life. It's the circle of selfishness and hate.
Anonymous
Post 10/20/2014 13:31     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Anonymous wrote:Albemarle is huge, 726 square miles, of which 95% is rural. And it's thick, dense, hilly, rocky, etc. Many properties are very difficult to maneuver. Not knowing the physical condition of the property owner, it's quite possible she couldn't search her property.

UberX JUST came to Charlottesville.

UVa has run a night shuttle for a long time (it was here when I went to Virginia in the mid-90s) However, it took forever to arrive and students would rather just walk home then wait. UVa has recently beefed up this shuttle, so maybe it will get more use.


Stop injecting rational thought. You are intrfering with speculation and the resulting racism and other prejudices towards Virginia residents