Anonymous
Post 09/19/2014 13:04     Subject: residency cheater in Janney PK.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:LOling that there are 12 pages of people defending cheaters!


Not really. There are 12 pages of people talking about residency cheating. Some people are wondering how the OP knows so much about this family. Some are talking about the many people at their school that they know to be cheating. One person is counting Maryland plates at Stuart-Hobson. My guess is that none of the people who are enraged about cheating and claim to know cheaters have actually reported those people.

What's worse - someone who suggests that people who are perceived to be cheating might actually not be or people who are certain that a person is cheating and doesn't report them?


But why wonder? Who cares how the OP knows what she knows. Suspecting someone of fraud is enough to report them. If they are not guilty of fraud, what's the harm? None! As soon as someone says "but what if..." they are searching for excuses why the OP shouldn't report this, i.e. defending a potential cheater. That's what's so insane about all this. People making excuses for why the potential cheater isn't a cheater and why op shouldn't report it. That's just stupid!
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2014 13:01     Subject: residency cheater in Janney PK.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hmmmm...let's do this instead: take your highly paid wrath and organize the highly paid parents around you to subsidize some apartments that are actually affordable in the Janney boundary for those making less than $48,000 per year.

Here's the deal: DC has a real affordable housing problem. We have children living in shelters because their parents can't pay the rent even though 80% of them work. So then poor people move to the suburbs but still want to use city services. Clearly you have some free time on your hands. Use this time to work on the real problem: poor folks who can't afford day care also can't afford to live in DC, while those of us who can afford day care are getting free day care while living in our expensive homes.

Shift the problem on its head: support fair wages and mixed income housing to welcome back some who were pushed out to undesirable suburbs over the past 15 years. Then you will see the Maryland plates turn back into DC plates.


But, if they live in the suburbs, why don't they want to use suburban services? I live in PG county. We have schools out here. My kids go to one and they are very happy. There isn't really any reason for someone from MD to use a school in DC. They live in MD and pay taxes in MD and can go to school in MD. I don't understand the argument that they have to use DC schools because they have no other option. DC services are really not any better than the services available where they actually live.


This isn't exactly true. My kids go to DCPS and I've done extensive research throughout PGCPS schools. While some PGCPS schools are just fine, there are others that are truly horrific. In addition, the per-pupil expenditure for PGCPS is exceptionally low leading to overcrowding and lack of basic services in some schools. Basically, these families are going because they get free PS-3 or PK-4 and full-day kindergarten (which has traditionally not been provided by PGCPS). In addition, aftercare is either very inexpensive or free. Title I services for PGCPS schools are limited to an exceptionally small number of schools compared to DCPS where a community model has been put in place. Finally, if the parents work in DC they can pick the kids up 30 to 45 minutes earlier than they could if they had the kids in their home school.

Anonymous
Post 09/19/2014 12:55     Subject: residency cheater in Janney PK.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is the PP who said I was going to start checking. Kids at Stuart Hobson getting picked up right now (aftercare maybe)? 11 cars waiting to pickup. 7 Maryland tags. Absurd.


Why would someone from Maryland want to send his/her kid to SH? I visited a class there to teach about the Constitution, and it was utter chaos. I would be horrified if my kids were there.


Because Stuart Hobson is better than the schools in PG county to which these children are zoned.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2014 12:54     Subject: Re:residency cheater in Janney PK.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here.
I people I know who are cheating are not low income.
I haven't reported them but I'll write something up this weekend and mail it in when I have a minute. I'm not in the child's class and I just stumbled upon this knowledge randomly for other reasons.
The stupid thing is, residency cheaters are almost always caught at Janney. It's a tight knit community where everyone knows everyone. If you claim to live somewhere you don't, chances are a neighbor will have a kid in the same class or will have a best friend who does (for example--this is not my scenario).
There's ZERO anonymity.


There is ZERO anonymity - but when a family moves OOB everyone will embrace that they should get special treatment since they were once one of us. Is living IB for a short period of time a form of residency cheater? They never planned on living there LT - especially in cases when the family maintained the primary residence they just needed to move out due to renovations.



Yup. I am pretty sure I know the family you are talking about.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2014 12:52     Subject: Re:residency cheater in Janney PK.
Anonymous wrote:OP here.
I people I know who are cheating are not low income.
I haven't reported them but I'll write something up this weekend and mail it in when I have a minute. I'm not in the child's class and I just stumbled upon this knowledge randomly for other reasons.
The stupid thing is, residency cheaters are almost always caught at Janney. It's a tight knit community where everyone knows everyone. If you claim to live somewhere you don't, chances are a neighbor will have a kid in the same class or will have a best friend who does (for example--this is not my scenario).
There's ZERO anonymity.


There is ZERO anonymity - but when a family moves OOB everyone will embrace that they should get special treatment since they were once one of us. Is living IB for a short period of time a form of residency cheater? They never planned on living there LT - especially in cases when the family maintained the primary residence they just needed to move out due to renovations.

Anonymous
Post 09/19/2014 12:49     Subject: residency cheater in Janney PK.
Only in DC, where it is somehow seen as to racist to not defend tax cheats.

Most residency cheaters may not be the 1 percent, but they are the 10 percent.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2014 12:45     Subject: residency cheater in Janney PK.
Anonymous wrote:LOling that there are 12 pages of people defending cheaters!


Not really. There are 12 pages of people talking about residency cheating. Some people are wondering how the OP knows so much about this family. Some are talking about the many people at their school that they know to be cheating. One person is counting Maryland plates at Stuart-Hobson. My guess is that none of the people who are enraged about cheating and claim to know cheaters have actually reported those people.

What's worse - someone who suggests that people who are perceived to be cheating might actually not be or people who are certain that a person is cheating and doesn't report them?
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2014 12:44     Subject: residency cheater in Janney PK.
Anonymous wrote:This is the PP who said I was going to start checking. Kids at Stuart Hobson getting picked up right now (aftercare maybe)? 11 cars waiting to pickup. 7 Maryland tags. Absurd.


Why would someone from Maryland want to send his/her kid to SH? I visited a class there to teach about the Constitution, and it was utter chaos. I would be horrified if my kids were there.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2014 12:44     Subject: Re:residency cheater in Janney PK.
Anonymous wrote:OP here.
I people I know who are cheating are not low income.
I haven't reported them but I'll write something up this weekend and mail it in when I have a minute. I'm not in the child's class and I just stumbled upon this knowledge randomly for other reasons.
The stupid thing is, residency cheaters are almost always caught at Janney. It's a tight knit community where everyone knows everyone. If you claim to live somewhere you don't, chances are a neighbor will have a kid in the same class or will have a best friend who does (for example--this is not my scenario).
There's ZERO anonymity.


Glad to see we have emboldened you -- bust the cheaters! I have several family members in MD, who have kids, are married, and both parents work, and they have to pay a nanny part-time to get the kids to school and pick them up. Whereas the D.C. residency fraudsters get to mooch off the rest of us who actually pay taxes in the District. Screw them, make them pay like the rest of us. I hope you light a fire under DCPS so they start busting these contemptible people.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2014 12:41     Subject: residency cheater in Janney PK.
LOling that there are 12 pages of people defending cheaters!
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2014 12:40     Subject: residency cheater in Janney PK.
Anonymous wrote:Hmmmm...let's do this instead: take your highly paid wrath and organize the highly paid parents around you to subsidize some apartments that are actually affordable in the Janney boundary for those making less than $48,000 per year.

Here's the deal: DC has a real affordable housing problem. We have children living in shelters because their parents can't pay the rent even though 80% of them work. So then poor people move to the suburbs but still want to use city services. Clearly you have some free time on your hands. Use this time to work on the real problem: poor folks who can't afford day care also can't afford to live in DC, while those of us who can afford day care are getting free day care while living in our expensive homes.

Shift the problem on its head: support fair wages and mixed income housing to welcome back some who were pushed out to undesirable suburbs over the past 15 years. Then you will see the Maryland plates turn back into DC plates.


But, if they live in the suburbs, why don't they want to use suburban services? I live in PG county. We have schools out here. My kids go to one and they are very happy. There isn't really any reason for someone from MD to use a school in DC. They live in MD and pay taxes in MD and can go to school in MD. I don't understand the argument that they have to use DC schools because they have no other option. DC services are really not any better than the services available where they actually live.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2014 12:39     Subject: Re:residency cheater in Janney PK.
Anonymous wrote:OP here.
I people I know who are cheating are not low income.
I haven't reported them but I'll write something up this weekend and mail it in when I have a minute. I'm not in the child's class and I just stumbled upon this knowledge randomly for other reasons.
The stupid thing is, residency cheaters are almost always caught at Janney. It's a tight knit community where everyone knows everyone. If you claim to live somewhere you don't, chances are a neighbor will have a kid in the same class or will have a best friend who does (for example--this is not my scenario).
There's ZERO anonymity.


Clearly this is a big priority for you, OP, what with the discovering the information by accident and the rush to expose the cheater for the fraud they are right away. You couldn't possibly have just wanted to raise this controversy on this site again, since school just started and there are probably some people who are bitter, right?

Thanks for being so brave.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2014 12:37     Subject: residency cheater in Janney PK.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would be surprised if anyone living in Bethesda proper (not "North Bethesda" or "Greater Bethesda") would send their kid to a DCPS. Not hating on DCPS or anything, but one is clearly better than the other. Now, if we're talking PG County - yeah, if I can weasel my way into a DC school, and I know D.C. isn't going to do anything about it, sure.


Okay, how about North Bethesda or Rockville. If you can't see that, well you might be a little blind. A kid was not allowed back the next year in my kid's immersion charter. The school found out the family lived in, wait for it, the North Bethesda Rockville area of Maryland.


Yeah, you're agreeing with me. Many (if not all) of the schools in extended Bethesda and Rockville that used to be good are no longer any good. Mostly due to immigrant kids who don't have a good command of written or spoken english, and the lower-income housing that exists there. So, if one or two parents who live there commute to D.C. every morning, they are going to get a school of same or better quality if they can scam a way into DCPS. And many of them do: they get to drop off their kids in time to arrive at a nearby office, then pick them up after low-cost aftercare, and then go home to Maryland. It's a great scam! The same problem of school quality can be said for the disintegrating schools in Arlington and Alexandria (though I only rarely see VA plates at DCPS pick-up). In D.C., it's mostly a problem of former D.C. residents who want child-care for their kids while they work a D.C. government or federal job.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2014 12:33     Subject: Re:residency cheater in Janney PK.
OP here.
I people I know who are cheating are not low income.
I haven't reported them but I'll write something up this weekend and mail it in when I have a minute. I'm not in the child's class and I just stumbled upon this knowledge randomly for other reasons.
The stupid thing is, residency cheaters are almost always caught at Janney. It's a tight knit community where everyone knows everyone. If you claim to live somewhere you don't, chances are a neighbor will have a kid in the same class or will have a best friend who does (for example--this is not my scenario).
There's ZERO anonymity.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2014 12:20     Subject: residency cheater in Janney PK.
Anonymous wrote:Hmmmm...let's do this instead: take your highly paid wrath and organize the highly paid parents around you to subsidize some apartments that are actually affordable in the Janney boundary for those making less than $48,000 per year.

Here's the deal: DC has a real affordable housing problem. We have children living in shelters because their parents can't pay the rent even though 80% of them work. So then poor people move to the suburbs but still want to use city services. Clearly you have some free time on your hands. Use this time to work on the real problem: poor folks who can't afford day care also can't afford to live in DC, while those of us who can afford day care are getting free day care while living in our expensive homes.

Shift the problem on its head: support fair wages and mixed income housing to welcome back some who were pushed out to undesirable suburbs over the past 15 years. Then you will see the Maryland plates turn back into DC plates.
The cheaters are mostly DC government employees who live in the suburbs precisely to avoid the taxes you want the rest of us to cover. I bet they earn more and work less than I do.