Anonymous
Post 03/01/2014 08:15     Subject: Re:Downton 2/24
Anonymous wrote:I dunno. Americans in the 20's were pretty annoying--with their giant raccoon coats, F. Scott Fitgerald, drinking gin out of bathtubs, dancing the charleston and all that aw' shucks jiggly american enthusiasm and boorish worship of money. To the British, they really saw americans as the annoying little brother who thought he showed up at the last moment and 'saved their bacon' in the war. Accurate portrayal of 1920s americans really.


Yeah, because EVERY American acted like that, just like EVERY American in 2014 acts like the characters on Girls.
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2014 08:06     Subject: Downton 2/24
Anonymous wrote:Oh and the American servant was seriously the most annoying person ever. I don't know Americans in real life that prattle on about "American dream" this and that nonstop. He was just a bit too perky, but I think it was done to show the differences between Brits and Americans.


To take the piss out of Americans, more like. He was a buffoon.
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2014 07:47     Subject: Downton 2/24
Lady g does care deeply about Edith. You realize your comment is basically saying that adoptive parents can't love their adopted children.... Even after ~27 years?
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2014 22:49     Subject: Downton 2/24
Anonymous wrote:I like the idea that Edith is Aunt Rosamund's daughter, but if that's true I would wonder why she was so against Edith making the same choice that Aunt Rosamund herself did.


That would be an interesting plot twist and would explain why Lady G doesn't to really care about Edith and Lord G does--he would be the one actually related to her even if he were an Uncle.

Aunt Rosamund doesn't want her to have the baby close by so as not to invite scandal. At this point very few people know. If the baby lived in the village, and Edith was visiting all the time, people might start to talk.

Anonymous
Post 02/28/2014 22:40     Subject: Downton 2/24
*ugh, I meant Shrimpy and SUSAN MacClare.

And you're welcome.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2014 22:38     Subject: Downton 2/24
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought that Rose was Rosamund's daughter, but Edith pointed out that Rosamund is not a mom.

How are Rosamund and Rose related to lord and lady grantham?


Rosamund is Robert's sister (the Dowager Countess's daughter).

Rose is the daughter of family friends (Shrimpy and Shrimpy MacClare), whose estate they visited last season.


Thanks for the quick reply!
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2014 22:35     Subject: Downton 2/24
Anonymous wrote:I thought that Rose was Rosamund's daughter, but Edith pointed out that Rosamund is not a mom.

How are Rosamund and Rose related to lord and lady grantham?


Rosamund is Robert's sister (the Dowager Countess's daughter).

Rose is the daughter of family friends (Shrimpy and Shrimpy MacClare), whose estate they visited last season.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2014 22:32     Subject: Downton 2/24
I thought that Rose was Rosamund's daughter, but Edith pointed out that Rosamund is not a mom.

How are Rosamund and Rose related to lord and lady grantham?
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2014 22:28     Subject: Downton 2/24
Anonymous wrote:Moseley: from Zero to Hero in two episodes!


I like the new Mosely. I did not care for the old one. The little romance with Baxter is sweet and innocent.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2014 22:26     Subject: Downton 2/24
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How old is Daisy now?! I feel like 10 years have passed in downton time, but she still acts and looks like a teenager.


Oh God yes. She is the most annoying character ever. I hate how everything she says sounds like a question.


I like Daisy. Hopefully she will stay happy. She had become so bitter over Ivy and Alfred. But I guess they didn't have many chances to meet single men while working in an estate basement back then.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2014 07:45     Subject: Downton 2/24
Anonymous wrote:Agree, it would be terrible but it did happen quite a bit in the old days….actually it happened to my MIL--her "brother" was really her illegitimate cousin. And to my friend in 7th grade; her family suddenly had a baby--it was her cousin's. I think (unlike this situation) when the extended family was tight-knit, the young mom found it a godsend. But it must have been hard later on, when the child was older.



I was born "out of wedlock" and was brought home as my grandmother's child to uphold family respectability, not so much my mother's reputation. It was the early 60s and they decided at the last second at the hospital not to go through with the adoption process. My mother and I never bonded, in our family it was a horrible, dysfunctional mess.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2014 07:13     Subject: Downton 2/24
Agree, it would be terrible but it did happen quite a bit in the old days….actually it happened to my MIL--her "brother" was really her illegitimate cousin. And to my friend in 7th grade; her family suddenly had a baby--it was her cousin's. I think (unlike this situation) when the extended family was tight-knit, the young mom found it a godsend. But it must have been hard later on, when the child was older.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2014 07:07     Subject: Downton 2/24
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like the idea that Edith is Aunt Rosamund's daughter, but if that's true I would wonder why she was so against Edith making the same choice that Aunt Rosamund herself did.



I would feel that I was living in hell if I had to pretend that I was child's aunt. This is a theme that has occurred before on Downton, the out of wedlock birth and fallen woman. What was the maid's name who had the child with the dead soldier and then gave it to his wealthy parents when she realized that they would provide a better life for him? Then she took a job in a nearby town so that she could keep an eye on him as he grew up. Fello


*meant to say: I would feel that I was living in hell if I had to pretend that I was my child's aunt.


Her name was Ethel and I agree; not many things could be more painful than that situation. I cried when the rich grandparents drove off with her little boy and he turned around and waved through the back window. Gut-wrenching.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2014 06:21     Subject: Downton 2/24
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like the idea that Edith is Aunt Rosamund's daughter, but if that's true I would wonder why she was so against Edith making the same choice that Aunt Rosamund herself did.



I would feel that I was living in hell if I had to pretend that I was child's aunt. This is a theme that has occurred before on Downton, the out of wedlock birth and fallen woman. What was the maid's name who had the child with the dead soldier and then gave it to his wealthy parents when she realized that they would provide a better life for him? Then she took a job in a nearby town so that she could keep an eye on him as he grew up. Fello


*meant to say: I would feel that I was living in hell if I had to pretend that I was my child's aunt.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2014 06:20     Subject: Downton 2/24
Anonymous wrote:I like the idea that Edith is Aunt Rosamund's daughter, but if that's true I would wonder why she was so against Edith making the same choice that Aunt Rosamund herself did.



I would feel that I was living in hell if I had to pretend that I was child's aunt. This is a theme that has occurred before on Downton, the out of wedlock birth and fallen woman. What was the maid's name who had the child with the dead soldier and then gave it to his wealthy parents when she realized that they would provide a better life for him? Then she took a job in a nearby town so that she could keep an eye on him as he grew up. Fello